Starfield

Starfield

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CloudsInTheSky Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:44am
The actual reasons why Starfield is going into the Negative Scores
Starfield is doing poorly in the reviews. In my opinion this game was brutally slashed, but the signs were there for a very long time.

Before everyone jumps up and about the woke hating things, the answer is no, it did not fail because of those elements. As a matter of fact the anti-woke and woke partie are just very loud and very small minorities in the forums, and they only cling to this game for pure personal attention on either side. In reality, all the woke things in the game makes even the woke lovers cringe, but that is irrelevant to this topic.

With that elephant out of the way, Starfield's score is actually suffering because of FO76. That game was not received well for many valid reasons, but it did broke something very fundamental: it cracked the trust and patience of players that were tolerant of Bethesda's flaws in the past. Players felt cheated and belittled by Bethesda's reactions at that time and that set a precursor for the next game to be eyed with a large dose of skepticism. I believe that even if Starefield would have come out with a very solid gameplay and zero bugs it would have still suffered some noticeable revenge backlash (maybe a score around 60-75% positive).

In reality, Starfield failed massively from a marketing stand point of view because it brought back a lot of technical issues (new and old) that players already experienced in many of their previous titles. It also suffered from the lackluster and quite bland vibe it offered to the majority of players, and the revenge force of nature generated by FO76 was itching to release that tension (they used word-of-mouth to point out the "I told you so" phenomena). Bethesda has many financial means and human resources to fix and even improve their quality and thus have no excuse to repeat the same mistakes over and over.

I am not here to criticize the minority of players that do enjoy and support Starfield. We all perceive games subjectively, but when the majority of the players set forward their disappointment, it is clear that the populous has set the expectation bar quite high and will not tolerate Bethesda's shenanigans any longer.

To be clear, I do not attribute this as a review bombing campaign (those are very short lived for any game), but this is the effect of the actions that Bethesda itself never bothered to address/mend for a very long time with its audiences.

Bethesda will not die over from the receiver failure of this game, but it does ensure a spiraling side effect of bad faith and mistrust between it and the general player market, and potentially even handicapped their future sales. First impression matters, and in this field of work it is rare to get that second chance to redeem yourself in front of your customers. In the end, Bethesda forgot it made games for the players that supported them financially for so long. With the gamepass, I think they won't even care about Steam/PC sales anymore as they will get paid by Microsoft no matter what they will release. Players like me feel sad that they adopted this approach, but I suppose that the corporate business world carves out the passion from all the big gaming companies in the end.
Originally posted by Kuroki:
TL;DR summary:
Starfield's negative reception is not due to woke elements but stems from Fallout 76's impact on player trust. Bethesda's failure to address technical issues and deliver a compelling experience, coupled with a revenge backlash from Fallout 76, led to widespread disappointment. The company's lack of improvement over time has eroded trust, potentially affecting future sales. Despite financial backing from Microsoft, the shift towards Game Pass may signal a disregard for individual game sales. Overall, players are disheartened by Bethesda's approach, feeling that corporate interests have overshadowed the passion for creating games for their dedicated fanbase.
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JacEEEBABY Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:45am 
At the end of the day its just not that good, it explains why the fanboys have been so fanatic for the last few months. They fight all day on the forums about it while losing sleep. Just not a good combo to get into.
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Donaldo Trumpado Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:46am 
I'm not reading your blog post
CloudsInTheSky Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by JacEEEBABY:
At the end of the day its just not that good, it explains why the fanboys have been so fanatic for the last few months.

I would love for this game to succeed, but they would need to put in a lot of effort to repair the audience fracture.
Last edited by CloudsInTheSky; Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:48am
CloudsInTheSky Dec 27, 2023 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Donaldo Trumpado:
I'm not reading your blog post

No one forces you to!
Jᴧgᴧ Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:02am 
It's receiving bad reviews because when compared to all prior Bethesda games with a similar formula, it is worse in almost every way. Dumbed down, annoying, disjointed, not immersive, and not captivating. What's space about? Exploration. What doesn't Starfield have? Exploration. What setting does Starfield have? Space.

I mean seriously. :rfacepalm:

The only reason Starfield succeeded in any small way, is because of marketing. Pumping ~$200M (the same as development costs) into marketing goes a long way towards telling a story people will believe, even if it isn't true. How many millions (billions?) of people have seen the large image of Starfield in-game, with the 9/10 and 10/10 review scores plastered all over it? That's marketing - the only thing it really did well. Unfortunately, most marketing is lies and exaggerations, as we've found out.
CloudsInTheSky Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by Jᴧgᴧ:
It's receiving bad reviews because when compared to all prior Bethesda games with a similar formula, it is worse in almost every way. Dumbed down, annoying, disjointed, not immersive, and not captivating. What's space about? Exploration. What doesn't Starfield have? Exploration. What setting does Starfield have? Space.

I mean seriously. :rfacepalm:

The only reason Starfield succeeded in any small way, is because of marketing. Pumping ~$200M (the same as development costs) into marketing goes a long way towards telling a story people will believe, even if it isn't true. How many millions (billions?) of people have seen the large image of Starfield in-game, with the 9/10 and 10/10 review scores plastered all over it? That's marketing - the only thing it really did well. Unfortunately, most marketing is lies and exaggerations, as we've found out.

Indeed. They really missed the mark with what audiences like about space rpg games. And the expectation were high after so many great games released prior to Starfield.
Last edited by CloudsInTheSky; Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:11am
ƎϽ∀ƎԀ Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:14am 
Because Steam ratings are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and can be easily manipulated by people voting multiple times. World wide reviews are 95% vrs Steam ratings. Many hundreds of people bought the game on Steam just so they could make a bad review and refund, never intending to play the game or want the game. The far right has made a concerted effort of gathering their lackys to vote against the game with most of them probably not even gamers. Don't listen to the reviews here on Steam, they mean nothing, and the negative streamers are just ranting and stirring the pot for clickbait.
TsampaD Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:14am 
it's just a job that wasn't done with love, they didn't give much importance to what the game title promised and these are its results.
CloudsInTheSky Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by ƎϽ∀ƎԀ:
Because Steam ratings are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and can be easily manipulated by people voting multiple times. World wide reviews are 95% vrs Steam ratings. Many hundreds of people bought the game on Steam just so they could make a bad review and refund, never intending to play the game or want the game. The far right has made a concerted effort of gathering their lackys to vote against the game with most of them probably not even gamers. Don't listen to the reviews here on Steam, they mean nothing, and the negative streamers are just ranting and stirring the pot for clickbait.

Geez mate. You need to get more out of the house. The wold is not a conspiracy theory dedicated for this particular game or company. I won't even bother to ask you to back your arguments with actual demonstrable facts since it would be a waste of time for everyone.
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Fha-Fha Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by ƎϽ∀ƎԀ:
Because Steam ratings are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and can be easily manipulated by people voting multiple times. World wide reviews are 95% vrs Steam ratings. Many hundreds of people bought the game on Steam just so they could make a bad review and refund, never intending to play the game or want the game. The far right has made a concerted effort of gathering their lackys to vote against the game with most of them probably not even gamers. Don't listen to the reviews here on Steam, they mean nothing, and the negative streamers are just ranting and stirring the pot for clickbait.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8MZBUoQt68

My response to this haha XD
CloudsInTheSky Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by TsampaD:
it's just a job that wasn't done with love, they didn't give much importance to what the game title promised and these are its results.

The world of economics is tough when you grow as a company. I will not beat around the bush and say that decisions regarding the time and money spend for developing a game are easy, but it does feel like a very rushed product just for the sake of selling something.
ƎϽ∀ƎԀ Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by CloudsInTheSky:
Originally posted by ƎϽ∀ƎԀ:
Because Steam ratings are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and can be easily manipulated by people voting multiple times. World wide reviews are 95% vrs Steam ratings. Many hundreds of people bought the game on Steam just so they could make a bad review and refund, never intending to play the game or want the game. The far right has made a concerted effort of gathering their lackys to vote against the game with most of them probably not even gamers. Don't listen to the reviews here on Steam, they mean nothing, and the negative streamers are just ranting and stirring the pot for clickbait.

Geez mate. You need to get more out of the house. The wold is not a conspiracy theory dedicated for this particular game or company. I won't even bother you to back your arguments with actual demonstrable facts since it would be a waste of time for everyone.
Then you need to read more and learn the truth.
Azrael Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:20am 
I ain't reading all of that
I'm happy for you though
or sorry that happened

TLDR: The game is ♥♥♥♥, it's not ♥♥♥♥ because Fallout 76, Fallout 76 was also ♥♥♥♥, Starfield just didn't make anything better, they just reskinned it into a scifi game. It deserves it's rating because people are actually rating it to what it is worth. No need to write an entire novel about it. Anti-wokers are also entirely right about everything they say, since they are getting fed up by the amount of ♥♥♥♥ they are forced to consume if they want to enjoy a movie/show/game nowadays. Remove that filth from our lives and we'll be happy again, except that won't make the game any better, the contept was good, the end result is bad. Simple as that.
UnCazualGamer Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:21am 
That's some peculiar mental gymnastics, you BGS fans are really struggling to accept reality. Why did the community on Steam give 75 good reviews, but then revenge review bomb the next game, that makes no sense at all. The simple fact is, the game isn't good, in any way shape or form, hence why its getting bad reviews.
Slackerdude74 Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:27am 
It was at first and still is because of two simple little words that was only asked at the beginning of the game that certain people seem to have issues with for whatever reason and that started all of this negativity, but sometime after these people that are seemingly shortsighted have decided that this can’t be the only stupid reason to bash this game so now it has spread like a plague and among these that where affected most of which have never even played the game and I call them sheeples have come up with other nonsensical reasons to bash the game.

That’s my take on all of this, and it seems I am rather spot on as well.
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