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peppergomez Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:36pm
Should M$ fire Todd?
I wonder if they are happy with Starifeld and with how Todd keeps the quality of Bethesda's games at bad to mediocre and their tech janky and outdated. Maybe they only care about the short term profits since it sold well at the start due to hype, gamer gullibility, and Todds sweet little lies.

But I'm sure they are aware that public opinion about Starfield and Bethesda is starting to turn. More and more people realize what a joke Bethesda has become.

Would be pretty cool if they convinced him to retire early and brought in upper management who are capable of actually creating good games.

Probably won't happen though. M$ has been making bad choices on games and studios lately so they probably don't know much about creating good games.

Imo the should get Todd and the other senior managers out of there or TES6 is going to fail. It will be over for Bethesda game studios at that point. Or maybe they will limp along and make mobile games.
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[-iD-] Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:38pm 
Emil Pagliarulo is lead dev for starfield.

what does todd have to do with anything, hes a figurehead.
peppergomez Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:39pm 
Naive reply
Bone23 Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by -iD-:
Emil Pagliarulo is lead dev for starfield.

what does todd have to do with anything, hes a figurehead.
Todd is still Emil's boss. Emil is the lead dev at least in part due to Todd putting him in that position.
stvlepore Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:43pm 
Please check the batteries in your carbon monoxide detector
[-iD-] Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:44pm 
Originally posted by Bone23:
Originally posted by -iD-:
Emil Pagliarulo is lead dev for starfield.

what does todd have to do with anything, hes a figurehead.
Todd is still Emil's boss. Emil is the lead dev at least in part due to Todd putting him in that position.
that doesn't mean Todd is at fault for Emil's failure. no one fired people like trump if his underlings did wrong.
peppergomez Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:44pm 
This Emil guy sounds like the very definition of failing upward
He should be fired too
Last edited by peppergomez; Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:44pm
Bone23 Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by peppergomez:
I wonder if they are happy with Starifeld and with how Todd keeps the quality of Bethesda's games at bad to mediocre and their tech janky and outdated. Maybe they only care about the short term profits since it sold well at the start due to hype, gamer gullibility, and Todds sweet little lies.

But I'm sure they are aware that public opinion about Starfield and Bethesda is starting to turn. More and more people realize what a joke Bethesda has become.

Would be pretty cool if they convinced him to retire early and brought in upper management who are capable of actually creating good games.

Probably won't happen though. M$ has been making bad choices on games and studios lately so they probably don't know much about creating good games.

Imo the should get Todd and the other senior managers out of there or TES6 is going to fail. It will be over for Bethesda game studios at that point. Or maybe they will limp along and make mobile games.
Bethesda should be looking at hiring some people from outside the company to lead development. I'm not sure the culture will change enough to fix the problems in bethesda's development culture without someone new to enforce the changes.
PIT_DEFENDER (Banned) Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:46pm 
Originally posted by peppergomez:
I wonder if they are happy with Starifeld and with how Todd keeps the quality of Bethesda's games at bad to mediocre and their tech janky and outdated. Maybe they only care about the short term profits since it sold well at the start due to hype, gamer gullibility, and Todds sweet little lies.

But I'm sure they are aware that public opinion about Starfield and Bethesda is starting to turn. More and more people realize what a joke Bethesda has become.

Would be pretty cool if they convinced him to retire early and brought in upper management who are capable of actually creating good games.

Probably won't happen though. M$ has been making bad choices on games and studios lately so they probably don't know much about creating good games.

Imo the should get Todd and the other senior managers out of there or TES6 is going to fail. It will be over for Bethesda game studios at that point. Or maybe they will limp along and make mobile games.
If there is one thing worse than Bethesda its MS ;p if anything they will promote him to run MS instead ;p
tkwoods Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
Originally posted by peppergomez:
Naive reply

Really...
They liked BGS and Todd so much they paid around $7.5 billion for the company.
Bone23 Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:48pm 
Originally posted by -iD-:
Originally posted by Bone23:
Todd is still Emil's boss. Emil is the lead dev at least in part due to Todd putting him in that position.
that doesn't mean Todd is at fault for Emil's failure. no one fired people like trump if his underlings did wrong.
I hope you are joking as people did in effect fire Trump.
PIT_DEFENDER (Banned) Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:49pm 
Originally posted by tkwoods:
Originally posted by peppergomez:
Naive reply

Really...
They liked BGS and Todd so much they paid around $7.5 billion for the company.
I mean if you can make games as bad as this one and still get fanboys to defend you and you can make a profit with that, ♥♥♥♥ me he is probably best thing in their portfolio. The sad part is that it aint a joke, its the world we live in...
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peppergomez Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:52pm 
Originally posted by PIT_DEFENDER:
Originally posted by tkwoods:

Really...
They liked BGS and Todd so much they paid around $7.5 billion for the company.
I mean if you can make games as bad as this one and still get fanboys to defend you and you can make a profit with that, ♥♥♥♥ me he is probably best thing in their portfolio. The sad part is that it aint a joke its, the world we live in...

I don't see this hype lasting forever. I think this company's gonna go the way of bioware and be a mere shadow of its former self by the time they do their next release TES6 and p***** people off because it's so mediocre and outdated
I think then even most of the fan boys will be forced to concede that Bethesda can no longer make good games.

But I could be wrong never underestimate the idiocy of fanboys
Last edited by peppergomez; Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:53pm
tkwoods Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by peppergomez:
Originally posted by PIT_DEFENDER:
I mean if you can make games as bad as this one and still get fanboys to defend you and you can make a profit with that, ♥♥♥♥ me he is probably best thing in their portfolio. The sad part is that it aint a joke its, the world we live in...

I don't see this hype lasting forever. I think this company's gonna go the way of bioware and be a mere shadow of its former self by the time they do their next release TES6 and p***** people off because it's so mediocre and outdated
I think then even most of the fan boys will be forced to concede that Bethesda can no longer make good games.

But I could be wrong never underestimate the idiocy of fanboys

The game is a decent game for those that like this game. If you can't handle someone liking a game without having to degrade them then you are the problem.
Last edited by tkwoods; Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:56pm
peppergomez Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:56pm 
Phil Spencer should probably be fired too if under his leadership M$ keeps buying studios who can no longer make good games like Arkane qnd Bethesda

He is buying studios who are formally good but are now past their prime
[-iD-] Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:56pm 
Originally posted by Bone23:
Originally posted by -iD-:
that doesn't mean Todd is at fault for Emil's failure. no one fired people like trump if his underlings did wrong.
I hope you are joking as people did in effect fire Trump.
im really not and not "voting him in" isn't firing him. he served his term and they chose some one else when he was done. no one got fired
Last edited by [-iD-]; Dec 11, 2023 @ 5:57pm
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