%100 Cpu Usage

[STARLEE]

It almost always uses 100% CPU. Any solutions?

Specs:
Intel Core i5 13400F 3.30 Ghz
MLD 500GB M500 NVMe Gen4
GoodRam 16GB(2x8) IRDM Crimson White 3600mhz CL18 DDR4
Asus GeForce RTX 4070 Dual White O12G 12GB GDDR6X 192 Bit DLSS 3

Edit: Well... after doing some proper testing, I can easily say that the task manager is showing the CPU usage incorrectly. When I analyze with Msi afterburner and HWMonitor at the same time, the CPU usage is around 70% on average. The average temperature is 78 degrees. When the computer is idle it hovers around 40-50 degrees. As far as I understand, the CPU fan seems inadequate.

Thank you to everyone who tried to help. I also laugh at those who say I need to upgrade the system. I hope this post will be useful in the future for those who have questions in their minds. Peace.

[catch22atplay]

ya fan noise i hate. Even if you go full water cooled those fans can get loud too. My new build has 6 140mm fans for the 2 radiators. They're fairly quiet at full speed. Well relatively speaking that is. Read lots of reviews to find a good loudness/performance mix. ARCTIC P14 PWM PST's btw. Ya don't give up dude. enjoy

[lizzo (report harder)]

Publicado originalmente por STARLEE:

It almost always uses 100% CPU. Any solutions?

Specs:
Intel Core i5 13400F 3.30 Ghz
MLD 500GB M500 NVMe Gen4
GoodRam 16GB(2x8) IRDM Crimson White 3600mhz CL18 DDR4
Asus GeForce RTX 4070 Dual White O12G 12GB GDDR6X 192 Bit DLSS 3

sometimes a cpu can hit 100% usage when a game is 100% trash.

[STARLEE]

Publicado originalmente por catch22atplay:

ya fan noise i hate. Even if you go full water cooled those fans can get loud too. My new build has 6 140mm fans for the 2 radiators. They're fairly quiet at full speed. Well relatively speaking that is. Read lots of reviews to find a good loudness/performance mix. ARCTIC P14 PWM PST's btw. Ya don't give up dude. enjoy

Thanks man. Peace.

Publicado originalmente por Lizzo:

Publicado originalmente por STARLEE:

It almost always uses 100% CPU. Any solutions?

Specs:
Intel Core i5 13400F 3.30 Ghz
MLD 500GB M500 NVMe Gen4
GoodRam 16GB(2x8) IRDM Crimson White 3600mhz CL18 DDR4
Asus GeForce RTX 4070 Dual White O12G 12GB GDDR6X 192 Bit DLSS 3

sometimes a cpu can hit 100% usage when a game is 100% trash.

I know it's not what was expected, but right now the game feels like a Fallout 4 mod to me. I think it is a good alternative for those who do not like fantasy and post-apocalyptic RPG games, but it definitely did not live up to expectations.

[rufus_mcgayhee]

"you might have to upgrade your PC for this one." - Todd from Cape Cod Howard

[STARLEE]

Publicado originalmente por rufus_mcgayhee:

"you might have to upgrade your PC for this one." - Todd from Cape Cod Howard

Oh you're right. I completely forgot it. My fault. :D

[SilverX95]

i like how people with high end CPU's get 100% CPU Usage but for me on my dumb Ryzen 5 3600 its stuck at 75% to 80% never going over
it makes you wonder if there something not right with the game engine

[jonnin]

i5

Publicado originalmente por SilverX95:

i like how people with high end CPU's get 100% CPU Usage but for me on my dumb Ryzen 5 3600 its stuck at 75% to 80% never going over
it makes you wonder if there something not right with the game engine

My I9 is going on 2 years and can't tap 100% with this game. Not sure what top end is now, but that has to be a configuration issue, or background junkware, or something tying it up. The OP's I5 may struggle just from lack of cpu cores... todays have 20+, his probably has half or less of a current gen processor.

[STARLEE]

Publicado originalmente por SilverX95:

i like how people with high end CPU's get 100% CPU Usage but for me on my dumb Ryzen 5 3600 its stuck at 75% to 80% never going over
it makes you wonder if there something not right with the game engine

No matter what setting I change, it continues to use 100% CPU. Even lowering the resolution doesn't help. If I just lower the fps, the usage drops.

[Blehh.....]

Publicado originalmente por catch22atplay:

Framegen generates an extra frame. So 60fps is technically only 30fps. So visually it looks good. But inputs response is severely hampered as it's really 30fps. I'm ok with the extra response time. Some find it very annoying and i completely understand. I just don't have many options with this extremely old cpu i7 2600k btw. Well guess i could finish my 13600 build. By the time i get around to it i'll probably throw it away and get a 14600. lol

Damn, 2600k, what graphics card? gtx 590? How did you even get this game to run on windows 7..... I tried and wouldn't even boot.....

[catch22atplay]

Publicado originalmente por Captan B:

Publicado originalmente por catch22atplay:

Framegen generates an extra frame. So 60fps is technically only 30fps. So visually it looks good. But inputs response is severely hampered as it's really 30fps. I'm ok with the extra response time. Some find it very annoying and i completely understand. I just don't have many options with this extremely old cpu i7 2600k btw. Well guess i could finish my 13600 build. By the time i get around to it i'll probably throw it away and get a 14600. lol

Damn, 2600k, what graphics card? gtx 590? How did you even get this game to run on windows 7..... I tried and wouldn't even boot.....

RTX 4080 in pce-e 2.0 mode. Win 10 Pro 64bit. 2600k one of the best cpus built. Been running circles around lot of newer ones over the years. about tied with 9600k for gaming. But not really that's just looking at people with issues in games and i tend to not have them. It's why i've waited so long to upgrade. I have a 13600 installed in my new build. Haven't finished the build as i've not really needed to. And started the new build for cp2077 and Starfield. But both run great. Although Starfield can dip below 60fps in cpu intensive areas and cp2077 can as well. Had a gtx970 before the rtx4080. But that just couldn't handle the newer games and ofc no ray tracing and no framegen and i obviously must have framegen with this old cpu.

This pic i hit 97% cpu usage in Akila city at 71fps. Seen as high as 98%
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083050665
Or 85% cpu usage in New Atlantis at 80fps. Not sure why it doesn't use more there.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3078935276

[Blehh.....]

Publicado originalmente por catch22atplay:

Publicado originalmente por Captan B:

Damn, 2600k, what graphics card? gtx 590? How did you even get this game to run on windows 7..... I tried and wouldn't even boot.....

RTX 4080 in pce-e 2.0 mode. Win 10 Pro 64bit. 2600k one of the best cpus built. Been running circles around lot of newer ones over the years. about tied with 9600k for gaming. But not really that's just looking at people with issues in games and i tend to not have them. It's why i've waited so long to upgrade. I have a 13600 installed in my new build. Haven't finished the build as i've not really needed to. And started the new build for cp2077 and Starfield. But both run great. Although Starfield can dip below 60fps in cpu intensive areas and cp2077 can as well. Had a gtx970 before the rtx4080. But that just couldn't handle the newer games and ofc no ray tracing and no framegen and i obviously must have framegen with this old cpu.

This pic i hit 97% cpu usage in Akila city at 71fps. Seen as high as 98%
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083050665
Or 85% cpu usage in New Atlantis at 80fps. Not sure why it doesn't use more there.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3078935276

How did you get working drivers for windows 10 on such an old system? Or did you just install the graphics drivers and ignore the rest since games only need working graphics drivers and maybe audio if you want sound, to play properly and thats it (and that you can't find drivers for the rest of the system)?

Hmmm, 60% GPU utilization....so they were right those old timers are no longer viable as they hold back the modern GPUs even if CPU isnt pegged at 100% on all cores (which it strangely should be if it'd can't keep up and it's doing its best..).

I was running a 3970x and that's a hexacore (your's a quadcore I believe?) and still holds back modern GPUs! They said I should upgrade to 7800x3d (which is just two extra cores more and a bunch if supposed improvements over previous gen CPUs) instead as that's the best gaming performance CPU in 2023. Though there are others with higher core counts but apparently you don't get much more performance since no game uses more than 6 or 8 cores at the most which means you won't get anymore fps for playing on a higher core count CPU or else every rich (or those who bother to save up) gamer would be jumping on 200 core CPUs and then bragging about their specs and getting minimum 999fps in any game they touch....

[ZombieHunter]

60 GPU, 100 CPU is a bottleneck. It does not mean you will have poor performance if it is enough to still run the game well. But it does indicate you have a bottleneck somewhere. You ideally want 98 to 100% GPU and around 35% to 45% CPU. But this is going to vary from time to time and based on what scene is being rendered. But in general, that is the ratio you want.

If you do not have any performance issues, I would not concern myself with it. Nothing is wrong, it it just taking a bit more cooling to keep everything stable and at temps. Fans are meant to spin. Let them spin. I've seen people gimp their cards that they paid good money for simply b/c they got too hot and didn't want the fans to spin. This is insanity. Cooling is meant to cool your system. So let it do its job and run that GPU and CPU at the max allowed.

You paid good money for your components so let the games use every bit of them they can. That is why you bought them.

[STARLEE]

Publicado originalmente por ZombieHunter:

60 GPU, 100 CPU is a bottleneck. It does not mean you will have poor performance if it is enough to still run the game well. But it does indicate you have a bottleneck somewhere. You ideally want 98 to 100% GPU and around 35% to 45% CPU. But this is going to vary from time to time and based on what scene is being rendered. But in general, that is the ratio you want.

If you do not have any performance issues, I would not concern myself with it. Nothing is wrong, it it just taking a bit more cooling to keep everything stable and at temps. Fans are meant to spin. Let them spin. I've seen people gimp their cards that they paid good money for simply b/c they got too hot and didn't want the fans to spin. This is insanity. Cooling is meant to cool your system. So let it do its job and run that GPU and CPU at the max allowed.

You paid good money for your components so let the games use every bit of them they can. That is why you bought them.

I don't care if the fans spins or not. I just don't want my computer to get old quickly. I am a mechatronics engineer. I've worked with noisier machines. Thank you for help. :D

[RiChuF]

Publicado originalmente por Apoloyn:

You have 16 gigs of RAM and DDR4 at that. (You simply won't have enough Bandwidth to deal the heavy demands that this game will place on your system)


Your also running a CPU that isn't even meant for gaming.
Your CPU has only 6 Cores that are designed for gaming and 4 Cores to make Cinebench happy.

i have 16gb of ddr4 (as im sure alot here have) and had plenty of "bandwidth"

some people shouldnt give pc advice when they clearly have noclue what they are on about
and saying that cpu cant game yet you say it has 6cores designed for gaming

[TheCr33pur]

Get a better cpu and double your ram!