Star Citizen, really?

[The92Ghost]

So, after reading so many comments about Star Citizen being so much better than Starfield, and the space exploration of Starfield being compared to Star Citizen, as well and the questlines and everything, I decided to give it a go. They had an open Alpha last weekend, I believe it is still on going and I have to admit... the experience was... well find out below:

So the first thing that I did after successfully launching the game was to create a character, the tool was quite abstruse. Literally. Anyway, I managed to create the character after wondering for 10 minutes from where to start and how the tool actually works. Once more, unclear, complex even. However, I have to point out that they do have an interesting and unique character creator tool, just I wish it was a lot more intuitive.

Moving on, I finally managed to create my character after 40+ minutes and it wasn't because I was trying to make him look good but because I was trying to make him look... let's say something acceptable as a character that I usually play. Regretfully, the tool had very limited scope but I am not criticizing that, the game is still in Alpha state after all.

Finally, I managed to start the game, the performance was terrible, like really terrible so I am not sure why so many people claimed that the game performs better than Starfield, when in reality it isn't but I swallowed and moved on, dropped the settings even to High from Very High, I said myself, okay, not optimized that is okay it is an Alpha after all. You DO NOT criticize game's performance based on Alpha.

Finally, I got down to the main lobby where the game starts, I have to add here that I needed at least 30 or so minutes to get out from the first room in which you spawn until you figure out the controls, some are intuitive others are very confusing, some are even baffling. I also checked interactive objects and other things within the room but let's say that the controls for getting an object and then using that object were completely opposite of intuitive but I have to applaud the system they created here like grabbing an object and clipping it on the surface, it was snappy, interesting to be honest but I still think that they could have done it more intuitive to the average player.

Finally, I start my adventure in Star Citizen and my first mission is to get to the Spaceport to get my ship, part of the tutorial, therefore, I did and well, the rest you can follow in the video you can get, my first hand experience with Star Citizen and then you can even check my Starfield gameplay through that are 10 times better. All three recordings were done in the very same day within a short spasm of time just to make sure that I make proper comparison:

https://youtu.be/5xutMyMjpnM

I do apologize in advance for the bad audio recording in Star Citizen, I honestly didn't realize that I was recording with my laptop mic throughout the entire time and I did not want to make a second video with false first-impression of Star Citizen, plus it does catch how I truly felt and how terrible the experience was.

[patrick68794]

Originalmente postado por Jeronimo:

SC community is a sect. Don't even bother arguing with them. All they care about is to shovel as much money as they can into a project that barely delivered a semi-working tech demo in 12 years. Bethesda has hyped a lot and overstaded the quality of their game. But in the end it's a 70usd investment and you get a finished game. You may like it or not but Bethesda put it out there and you could also see reviews and decide not to buy. Star Citizen is different. SC players invested thousands of dollars just to own a few ships in a non-existant game. Many of those ships that people paid for 10 years ago are not even playable. Then the demo has literally no content and has disastrous performances. You can't even talk to a single NPC in the demo and most of them are T-posing. If you thought Starfield AI is bad, just try those of SC for the lol. They just t-pose and it takes about 5 seconds for them to react if shoot them. But SC backers are arguing for about 12 years that "one day" it will transform into something amazing and they compare that (essentially the scope of a game on a piece of paper) to existing, fully released games.

Lol how does it feel to be such a hypocrite?

[Mkhuseli5k]

Starfield is real game. Star Citizen is a tech project. One that has gotten better over time. Microsoft should buy that company and re-purpose that engine for real Xbox games like Halo and Starfield on future generation consoles and PCs.

[RipzterX]

There's a couple things that makes me wonder/apprehensive about SC, if it ever actually finishes:

- If they want to build fully inhabited planets with multiple detailed cities etc. where will they find manpower/manhours to pull that off? I would suspect they'll have to resort to somekind of automated generation.

- I'm not too keen on spending so much time travelling on train/trams/whatever, though I do understand completely if some people do.

- I don't want to play a game where I'm playing with minimum game price with people who've paid multiple tens of thousands dollars on the game. I'd feel too left out. Others might not care, but I do.

These were just a couple things that immediately came to mind.

[Falaris]

I have not followed star citizen lately. I thought it looked interesting, back when I checked it.

Star Citizen is a crowdfunded game. Every dollar they get MUST go into development. That's the contract. If they don't, they can be hit by a pretty unpleasant class action lawsuit, and unlike what you see on most forums suggested by kids, this one would be a slam dunk. Contracts are usually brutally enforceable.

They originally wanted 500.000, half a million. They got 2 million. It started as a dangerously ambitious game, and got a lot more so. Every dollar they get go towards adding features above and beyond what was planned.

We're now at 670 million dollars, by estimates. (60 or so million from other investors.).

Star Citizen is bloatware by contract. It cannot NOT be bloatware, inasmuch as people still are throwing money at the screen and shouting 'take my money!!'. It was supposed to be finished almost ten years ago. But of course, you can't add 668 million dollars worth of features in no time.

I fear it's doomed; you cannot add that many features and still have a functional game. I have a lot of faith in Chris Roberts, but I fear he and his team(s) has a nightmare task.

At least Squadron 42 is supposedly feature complete and on its way to finished.

[SparkzMentalz]

Wow the videos makes Star Citizen look like the ultimate space game. I'm not interested in PvP so I'm hoping Squadron 42 delivers and supports Xbox controllers.

[Rootiga]

star citizen isnt a real game and never will be, its the worlds best scam. starfield however, is a steaming pile of s h i t that bethesda calls a game

[nullpo]

Originalmente postado por Dr. Sinister:

Imagine comparing dough to a fully baked loaf of bread and saying, see how much better this bread is over this dough

both are dough though

[patrick68794]

Originalmente postado por SparkzMentalz:

Wow the videos makes Star Citizen look like the ultimate space game. I'm not interested in PvP so I'm hoping Squadron 42 delivers and supports Xbox controllers.

It will support controllers. SC does right now, it's just kind of broken at the moment because of all the changes they've been making to keybindings, adding new controls into the game, and changes to their interaction systems. SQ42 won't have those problems as the game is feature complete (most of the changes to SC are things that are being carried over from SQ42, or are specific to things in SC).

[Yuriqa]

Morelike Scam Citizen.. They already gather over 600 millions and still game is like demo...

[CrEaToXx]

Anybody claiming Elite in its updated state is shallow, is just a parrot repeating an age old argument throwen across the internet, when Elite was hampered by the same attitude that Starfield haters show off.

Some of the rage was justified, Elite had some questionable technical issues in the beginning, and Starfield, as always, is built with focus on consoleros. But nothing critical that couldn't be "fixed" wtih mods. One just has to accept that a huge quantity of players just loves to chill on their couches, and watch Asmongold online, in a comfortable position.

But the amount of hate Starfield is receiving boils down to a much more complicated topic. Politics. People should already have realized that out world is slightly changing with all the recent ♥♥♥♥ happening around us.

Covid, economical disasters, climate change etc. People could easily cope with it, adapt, and just move on. But no, it's just history repeating with two opposing forces, none of them right actually, and forcing normal people that just want to enjoy their lifes into that whole madness again. Then you have a U.S. top game, and demographics showing off that the majority of users hampering SF are from eastern hemispheres.

Additionally you have fools on the internet that compare Neonpunk huge walled cities allowing the engine to cull virtually everything, and a Spore Space duplicate, with over saturated and bloomed visuals, to cover up they are using models from 10 years ago. And I'm talking the stuff you see in game, but inside tools to view models. That's silly to say the least.

In that regard actually all three Neonpunk GTA, Spore CC, and Duke Citizen fall extremely short to Starfield. And then there's a procedural world openly and wide generated wtihout any options to cull anything at all. It's just literally endless space, with, so I admit, a lot of situational loading screens, that load sub 1 second for me on a 990 EVO Pro.

So long story short. We live in a time right now were those two competing sides with their stupid agendas and idealism want to hate each other. And if you're none of both, which is the majority actually, they will try to pull you down, because they're just a-holes.

[Formous]

Originalmente postado por Mkhuseli5k:

Starfield is real game. Star Citizen is a tech project. One that has gotten better over time. Microsoft should buy that company and re-purpose that engine for real Xbox games like Halo and Starfield on future generation consoles and PCs.

Star engine actually is going to be sold once S42 comes out, which will be quite soon. Microsoft won't be buying them out. It also would be terrible for halo or starfield. You do NOT want star engine for a bethesda title. Otherwise, there will no longer be any modding. Creation Engine has that strength. It's Moddable.

[Formous]

Originalmente postado por Yuriqa:

Morelike Scam Citizen.. They already gather over 600 millions :Dosh: and still game is like demo...

Man..this narrative really goes strong huh? If you want to call something a scam, you need to really go do some research for once instead of following one or two youtubers. Actually go review their tech dev history. Actually play that game for more then a week and explore it.

You idiots only want to hate because you lack the basic ability to research them. You will retort about money, but why do you think they kept their store open? It made profit, and people who chose to invest get to buy a ship, melt it down for credit, and choose other ships on that market, or elect on their own free will to get a ship they love. SC's ceo admitted they have enough money to operate without new cash for years now. They can't spend it all at once. That is your mistake. That is somehow got spent. So why not cut it off? Because they are finishing ships a few at a time and making them availible for people to switch to or acquire of their own free wills. And those ships? highly decorative, working interiors and systems, no loading screens, unique flight models, Varying sizes of vessel, multiple game styles.

You look at a complaint about a single bug regarding fuel as if it is your holy grail to why it's a scam? Look at Starfield and Skyrim for once and you'll find the exact same issues. Those scams? Get out of here. This isn't me being a fan of sc. I love SF and SC both. Elite doesn't even touch how SC operates at any level, but I don't say its a bad game. That's the difference between us. I don't blind myself to good or bad in any of the games.

[Falcos01]

Originalmente postado por Mkhuseli5k:

Starfield is real game. Star Citizen is a tech project. One that has gotten better over time. Microsoft should buy that company and re-purpose that engine for real Xbox games like Halo and Starfield on future generation consoles and PCs.

LOL you really have no idea what Star Citizen is or the state of it.

[Falcos01]

Originalmente postado por Formous:

Originalmente postado por Mkhuseli5k:

Starfield is real game. Star Citizen is a tech project. One that has gotten better over time. Microsoft should buy that company and re-purpose that engine for real Xbox games like Halo and Starfield on future generation consoles and PCs.

Star engine actually is going to be sold once S42 comes out, which will be quite soon. Microsoft won't be buying them out. It also would be terrible for halo or starfield. You do NOT want star engine for a bethesda title. Otherwise, there will no longer be any modding. Creation Engine has that strength. It's Moddable.

-First Star Engine will be modable.
-Second I doubt they will sell their engine anytime soon.

PS: They have to make Squandron 42 sequel chapter 2

[Falcos01]

Originalmente postado por Yuriqa:

Morelike Scam Citizen.. They already gather over 600 millions :Dosh: and still game is like demo...

They gona need more than 600 millions just saying keep the Cash flowing plz