Star Citizen, really?

[The92Ghost]

So, after reading so many comments about Star Citizen being so much better than Starfield, and the space exploration of Starfield being compared to Star Citizen, as well and the questlines and everything, I decided to give it a go. They had an open Alpha last weekend, I believe it is still on going and I have to admit... the experience was... well find out below:

So the first thing that I did after successfully launching the game was to create a character, the tool was quite abstruse. Literally. Anyway, I managed to create the character after wondering for 10 minutes from where to start and how the tool actually works. Once more, unclear, complex even. However, I have to point out that they do have an interesting and unique character creator tool, just I wish it was a lot more intuitive.

Moving on, I finally managed to create my character after 40+ minutes and it wasn't because I was trying to make him look good but because I was trying to make him look... let's say something acceptable as a character that I usually play. Regretfully, the tool had very limited scope but I am not criticizing that, the game is still in Alpha state after all.

Finally, I managed to start the game, the performance was terrible, like really terrible so I am not sure why so many people claimed that the game performs better than Starfield, when in reality it isn't but I swallowed and moved on, dropped the settings even to High from Very High, I said myself, okay, not optimized that is okay it is an Alpha after all. You DO NOT criticize game's performance based on Alpha.

Finally, I got down to the main lobby where the game starts, I have to add here that I needed at least 30 or so minutes to get out from the first room in which you spawn until you figure out the controls, some are intuitive others are very confusing, some are even baffling. I also checked interactive objects and other things within the room but let's say that the controls for getting an object and then using that object were completely opposite of intuitive but I have to applaud the system they created here like grabbing an object and clipping it on the surface, it was snappy, interesting to be honest but I still think that they could have done it more intuitive to the average player.

Finally, I start my adventure in Star Citizen and my first mission is to get to the Spaceport to get my ship, part of the tutorial, therefore, I did and well, the rest you can follow in the video you can get, my first hand experience with Star Citizen and then you can even check my Starfield gameplay through that are 10 times better. All three recordings were done in the very same day within a short spasm of time just to make sure that I make proper comparison:

https://youtu.be/5xutMyMjpnM

I do apologize in advance for the bad audio recording in Star Citizen, I honestly didn't realize that I was recording with my laptop mic throughout the entire time and I did not want to make a second video with false first-impression of Star Citizen, plus it does catch how I truly felt and how terrible the experience was.

[Silamon]

Star citizen as it is now is just a tech demo. Starfield may be a deeply flawed game, but it is still a game...

[riles656]

Welcome to star citizen. I've been downloading and trying to play it once a year since it first came out. When it doesn't work good, i just delete and wait another year. Needless to say its been a disappointment for a while now. Any time I see anyone on the internet say how amazing and great it is I take that with a massive grain of salt. Waiting on the news that its been a joke all along and that the devs ran off with their close to 1 billion bucks they've raised so far.

[Silamon]

Originally posted by riles656:

Welcome to star citizen. I've been downloading and trying to play it once a year since it first came out. When it doesn't work good, i just delete and wait another year. Needless to say its been a disappointment for a while now. Any time I see anyone on the internet say how amazing and great it is I take that with a massive grain of salt. Waiting on the news that its been a joke all along and that the devs ran off with their close to 1 billion bucks they've raised so far.

Exactly this. People praise what it could be while sweeping what it is under the rug and trying to pretend it's not there.

I'd LOVE to play a fully realized Star Citizen. I'd love to think that all the money and time put into it has been for good use.

But the cynic in me is still saying that Chris Roberts is just milking it for as much as he can before everyone realizes the game was never going to come out.

[The92Ghost]

Originally posted by riles656:

Welcome to star citizen. I've been downloading and trying to play it once a year since it first came out. When it doesn't work good, i just delete and wait another year. Needless to say its been a disappointment for a while now. Any time I see anyone on the internet say how amazing and great it is I take that with a massive grain of salt. Waiting on the news that its been a joke all along and that the devs ran off with their close to 1 billion bucks they've raised so far.

They have a lot to work on, especially starting from controls to HUD to quest pointers and more strong quest requirements view because 80% of the time I was completely missing the quest explanation to the right of the screen and when I was remembering to check it, it was not on what I was doing.

[HeyYou]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Originally posted by riles656:

Welcome to star citizen. I've been downloading and trying to play it once a year since it first came out. When it doesn't work good, i just delete and wait another year. Needless to say its been a disappointment for a while now. Any time I see anyone on the internet say how amazing and great it is I take that with a massive grain of salt. Waiting on the news that its been a joke all along and that the devs ran off with their close to 1 billion bucks they've raised so far.

Exactly this. People praise what it could be while sweeping what it is under the rug and trying to pretend it's not there.

I'd LOVE to play a fully realized Star Citizen. I'd love to think that all the money and time put into it has been for good use.

But the cynic in me is still saying that Chris Roberts is just milking it for as much as he can before everyone realizes the game was never going to come out.

Chris may still believe the game will "one day" release, he is just an absolutely terrible leader. His projects rarely stay on-task, and suffer from a horrible case of 'scope creep'. He may be making some progress, but, then he thinks of a new 'feature' he wants to implement, and progress stalls, while he is distracted working on something else. That particular problem has cost him jobs in the past. Problem with start citizen is, there isn't anyone above him, to keep him on task, or fire him, and put someone in place that actually has an end goal..... that doesn't keep moving.....

[Low Standards]

Originally posted by Silamon:

Star citizen as it is now is just a tech demo. Starfield may be a deeply flawed game, but it is still a game...

I couldn't have said it better. Just a tech demo.

[The92Ghost]

Originally posted by HeyYou:

Originally posted by Silamon:

Exactly this. People praise what it could be while sweeping what it is under the rug and trying to pretend it's not there.

I'd LOVE to play a fully realized Star Citizen. I'd love to think that all the money and time put into it has been for good use.

But the cynic in me is still saying that Chris Roberts is just milking it for as much as he can before everyone realizes the game was never going to come out.

Chris may still believe the game will "one day" release, he is just an absolutely terrible leader. His projects rarely stay on-task, and suffer from a horrible case of 'scope creep'. He may be making some progress, but, then he thinks of a new 'feature' he wants to implement, and progress stalls, while he is distracted working on something else. That particular problem has cost him jobs in the past. Problem with start citizen is, there isn't anyone above him, to keep him on task, or fire him, and put someone in place that actually has an end goal..... that doesn't keep moving.....

That sounds like a terrible leadership which 90% of the game companies suffer.

[HeyYou]

Originally posted by The92Ghost:

Originally posted by HeyYou:

Chris may still believe the game will "one day" release, he is just an absolutely terrible leader. His projects rarely stay on-task, and suffer from a horrible case of 'scope creep'. He may be making some progress, but, then he thinks of a new 'feature' he wants to implement, and progress stalls, while he is distracted working on something else. That particular problem has cost him jobs in the past. Problem with start citizen is, there isn't anyone above him, to keep him on task, or fire him, and put someone in place that actually has an end goal..... that doesn't keep moving.....

That sounds like a terrible leadership which 90% of the game companies suffer.

Not nearly to the degree that Chris takes it...... I suspect he is ADD...... :D

[CrEaToXx]

I was hyped when I saw Star Citizen first time. That was like 10 years ago, nothing changed???

[Silamon]

Originally posted by CrEaToXx:

I was hyped when I saw Star Citizen first time. That was like 10 years ago, nothing changed???

Something did change actually. We got 10 years of empty promises and some really cool videos of what a final game might look like.

[Diernayr]

Originally posted by HeyYou:

Originally posted by Silamon:

Exactly this. People praise what it could be while sweeping what it is under the rug and trying to pretend it's not there.

I'd LOVE to play a fully realized Star Citizen. I'd love to think that all the money and time put into it has been for good use.

But the cynic in me is still saying that Chris Roberts is just milking it for as much as he can before everyone realizes the game was never going to come out.

Chris may still believe the game will "one day" release, he is just an absolutely terrible leader. His projects rarely stay on-task, and suffer from a horrible case of 'scope creep'. He may be making some progress, but, then he thinks of a new 'feature' he wants to implement, and progress stalls, while he is distracted working on something else. That particular problem has cost him jobs in the past. Problem with start citizen is, there isn't anyone above him, to keep him on task, or fire him, and put someone in place that actually has an end goal..... that doesn't keep moving.....

Lets be honest Sandi and Ortwin are pulling the strings over there. Chris is just the public image of the scam.

[zpc]

In [one of] the last discussions about Starfield being compared to Star Citizen I tried to tell people that Star Citizen can't be compared to any released game yet - mainly because it hasn't settled yet on which features are in and what performance the release feature set is able to achieve on which hardware. There are just too many moving parts yet for any comparison. So people shouldn't waste energy on that and instead do what Star Citizen is all about: waiting for a release.

[GrandTickler]

why not compare it with elite dangerous? that also has everything star field has and better

[The92Ghost]

Originally posted by GrandTickler:

why not compare it with elite dangerous? that also has everything star field has and better

I will do that. I will check any game that is compared to Starfield, starting with Elite Dangerous and even No Man's Sky. I just need time, since I don't have time. Maybe tonight I will test Elite Dangerous.

[Jarsonne]

Originally posted by The92Ghost:

first-impression of Star Citizen, plus it does catch how I truly felt and how terrible the experience was.

It's not fresh news that Star Citizen looks more and more like a scam. It started be obvious with the SP mode just achieving provide nice video to sell even more.

For Star Citizen recent sarcasm on Starfield dev, it's only making more suspicious because pro dev never bother do that, there's implicit ethic rule involved. And that they do it is either panicking or total lack of pro and this can give anything and nothing.