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R1s1Ng0fTh3FaLL Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:40am
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Biggest FLOP in Bethesda's history
Just a couple of months since release, and the game already has less online than Skyrim lmao. Let's talk about why this happened.

Running on an outdated engine and not offering interesting plot, variety or characters, Bethesda games have long ceased to be something innovative and original. Frankly, they've been selling the same game under different skins for decades.

And finally, it no longer works and doesn't bring them money, because Wokefield, made on the Morrowind engine, for some reason requires an RTX4090 lvl gpu, because in Wokefield you have a million planets with absolutely nothing to do on them, because Wokefield it's a game about strong women ruling the space civilization of the future, and there's literally nothing else in it.

I think this game deservedly bombed. :dexter:
Originally posted by Sikklid:
Minimal contractual obligation and now the old guard are all retiring. Its over. Fun while it lasted.

NO amount of expansions, patching (overhyped minimum features especially), mods, creation club microtransaction trash, or cope is ever going to fix this soulless pos. Gameplay and under-the-hood mechanics, or lack there of, are just fundamentally bad - not to mention BGS's blatantly neglected industry standards, QoL, and best practices. Monetization from their other low effort mobile/live service zoomer games spoiled them; now they couldnt make a game even if they wanted.

There's no exploration/discovery (so no satisfyingly epic journey... to anywhere), no intelligent or well thought out level design (so adhd kiddos dont lose interest 30 seconds into a building, cave, temple, etc), no immersive environmental storytelling (like in TES or FO) except for rinse repeat enemies, items, terminals, notes, etc etc etc.

It's just a glorified House Builder Sim (skinned as a Ship Builder), where you cant really do anything with the ships themselves. The actual handcrafted parts may be "=< previous games," but theyre so cookie cutter/flipped themselves that once youve seen a few pieces of so called "handcrafted" content youve seen most of the entire game. The only real exploration is navigating menu after menu after MENU. Whats there never comes together.

The Golden Age of BGS like former/current fanboys are hoping for wont ever return. BGS's pivoting point was with FO Shelter's billions from monetizing. Now BGS IPs will be used to siphon fanboy wallets with mobile games, microtransactions, and low effort games like Starfart.

We are 2 Gens deep into the Microtransaction Era, so we'll just be getting more soulless, lifeless, mobile model, live service conditioned iGenner zoomer games. :/
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Don_Salvatore Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:41am 
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And the predictable "woke" claim of course.

Keep trying to claim undeserved victories.

Conservatives.... history's perennial losers.
AoD_lexandro Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:42am 
Translation;
"Blah Blah Blah, I have personality issues. Yackety smackety, I also have a huge ego and think I am somehow special for not liking a computer game."

Sucks to be you.
potato Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:44am 
Originally posted by Lizzo:
lets not forget how the game went through 200k refunds during release week.
where source
AoD_lexandro Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by potato:
Originally posted by Lizzo:
lets not forget how the game went through 200k refunds during release week.
where source

Slizzo has no sources. He/She/It are a known fantasist who cant keep their lies straight.
Darth Revan Nov 23, 2023 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by potato:
Originally posted by Lizzo:
lets not forget how the game went through 200k refunds during release week.
where source
there is no source, his claim comes form a article linked in a other discussion.

in this article not even once it is stated that starfield had 200k refunds and he also completely ignores that the article says that some people bought premium for the early access and then refunded and rebought the standard edition without loosing thair progress.

people told him that but he only sees what he wants or simplay ignores facts.

so @AoD_lexandro response to your comment is about right.

for reference, here is the article his claim comes from:
https://www.aroged.com/2023/09/06/it-looks-like-players-are-issuing-refunds-en-masse-for-starfield/

the 198,142 refund requests are ALL refunds requested on steam across all games, not just starfield.
_oBSOLEte_ Nov 23, 2023 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:
the 198,142 refund requests are ALL refunds requested on steam across all games, not just starfield.

It just coincidentally happened when Starfield was top seller. But that's of course pure coincidence.

***puff copium***
_oBSOLEte_ Nov 23, 2023 @ 10:58am 
What a glorious hypetrain wreck anyway. From the review embargo to the chinese leaks, to the bethesda spambots, to the manufactured controversies. In my memory, never a game so mid failed so spectacularly. Even free on gamepass 3/4 of the people didnt bother to install that crap. XD
Darth Revan Nov 23, 2023 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by M4st0d0n:
Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:
the 198,142 refund requests are ALL refunds requested on steam across all games, not just starfield.

It just coincidentally happened when Starfield was top seller. But that's of course pure coincidence.

***puff copium***
have you even read the article? an average of between 70k and 140k refund requests a day is pretty normal on steam and at the time of starfields release this number went up to 198,142 refund requests.

but again this are not 198,142 refund requests for starfield, it are 198,142 refund requests on steam as a whole

and the article also says this:

This is evidenced by data from the Steam digital store. While Starfield was available as part of Early Access on the service, there was a fairly standard number of game returns, which tended to average 70-140 thousand requests. The day before the release, this figure increased noticeably, and many associate this with the full release of Starfield. The fact is that early access to the game was opened only after purchasing the premium edition, but the money for it could be easily returned even after 30 hours of completion, while retaining all of your progress.

In Steam discussions, separate guides were spotted where users described how to get a guaranteed and quick refund for Starfield. To do this, all you had to do was write to the store’s feedback and complain about the technical condition. Probably, many gamers took advantage of this life hack, judging by the activity of comments in such discussions.

Some users claim that they will simply return the money for the premium edition and then buy the game again at the standard price. Others write that they really didn’t like the game. Such users complain about the technical condition of Starfield, constant bugs and weak graphics. There were also users who were able to complete the main story during early access and are no longer interested in the game.
Raingnome Noir Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:04am 
You forgot to mention the completely indistinct music. There's hours of that orchestral, improvised space jazz, and i can't hum a single tune when trying to remember it
Last edited by Raingnome Noir; Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:05am
tkwoods Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by Lizzo:
lets not forget how the game went through 200k refunds during release week. to put this in perspective, bg3 has that many positive reviews in this last week alone.
defend a bad game you end up with a bad game.

Of sort of a chicken or egg scenario... It's hard to defend a game before it's released, it developed a long time before that, so....

People don't defend what they think is bad.
Saii Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by Raingnome Noir:
You forgot to mention the completely indistinct music. There's hours of that orchestral, improvised space jazz, and i can't hum a single tune when trying to remember it

Yes, what a shame.
In comparison, I'm still playing music from Jeremy Soule till this day. (Oblivion)
Can't say I've heard any tune while in StarField, apart from combat music
Thorba Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:25am 
I think many people have this game still at their playlist and just waiting for more patches and feature to come.
I startet today as i have seen that the dlss patch finaly was there (should have been there at release), so far the game runs good and make a relaxing impression (i like the star trek vipes from the score:). I am still at the beginning and cant say much more but i try to give the game a fair chance, the wokness is sadly a phenomenon we see everywhere these days, it has already destroyed some good franchises for me too:(
AdahnGorion Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:25am 
I personally am biased against Starfield because I think they made an Obsidian move (away from the RPG genre, fully transition into the Action Adventure, with only small hints of actual RPG elements and focuses)

This is first and foremost a simplistic console game.

With that being said, I can find many other games that I consider much worse.. I will list some for you (Starfield is the only game I ever refunded, I did borrow home alone, somewhere in my old garden.. but well. does not count as a refund)

Examples of a few worse games released by Bethesda (nor a division under Microsoft, so well can we even call them Bethesda anymore)

IHRA Drag Racing (this has to be the worst thing of them all)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swOWZra6jgI
Home Alone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgHr_vkJGVQ
PBA Bowling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2xa9pO4NFI
Fallout 76 (albeit its more about people failing to understand it was a survival mmo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9FGaan35s0
The Elder Scrolls: Blades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwttY9vrR4g
Last edited by AdahnGorion; Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:27am
Knottypine Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by R1s1Ng0fTh3FaLL:
Just a couple of months since release, and the game already has less online than Skyrim lmao. Let's talk about why this happened.

Running on an outdated engine and not offering interesting plot, variety or characters, Bethesda games have long ceased to be something innovative and original. Frankly, they've been selling the same game under different skins for decades.

And finally, it no longer works and doesn't bring them money, because Wokefield, made on the Morrowind engine, for some reason requires an RTX4090 lvl gpu, because in Wokefield you have a million planets with absolutely nothing to do on them, because Wokefield it's a game about strong women ruling the space civilization of the future, and there's literally nothing else in it.

I think this game deservedly bombed. :dexter:
I really dont think this was necessary. While I disagree with your post, what makes it stand out from all the other posts explaining what they think happened?
Betrayal Nov 23, 2023 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by R1s1Ng0fTh3FaLL:
And finally, it no longer works and doesn't bring them money
Problem is, it brought them a huge pile of money. Even worse, we all will be stupid enough to buy TES 6 when it comes out in 2030 or so.
This game sucks, but they have no reason to care.
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