HORRENDOUS BUG: Stealth Level 3 breaks Void Form.

[TEMPEST]

Stealth Level 3 gives you a stationary 'invisibility' which you lose when you move.
Void Form gives you invisilbility when you are stationary, moving AND attacking.
However, after leveling up to Stealth Level 3 it breaks Void Form such that you lose the ability to move and attack with Void Form active.

PLEASE fix this asap. This is fundamentally broken!

[StormhawkV]

Yes, that's really bad. Could you please take the time and report it through Bethesda's support page? The more people report it the higher the chances it gets fixed fast and the devs unfortunately don't read this forum.

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/home/product/1218/category/287

[hardy_conrad]

Ah, this would explain (in part) why stealth is a thing that presents me with, shall we say, difficulties... Other part being skill issue to be sure. Still whenever I try considering the whole thing on a cost benefit basis hardly seems worth bothering with.

[Krash Megiddo]

I'm stealth level 4. I learned not to be in stealth when using Void Form. Stand up. Cast Void Form, walk and/or run while invisible. Nothing wrong with stealth.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:

I'm stealth level 4. I learned not to be in stealth when using Void Form. Stand up. Cast Void Form, walk and/or run while invisible. Nothing wrong with stealth.

Same here. Stealth works very well in this game. They need to either get good or learn how to set it up properly or both.

[hardy_conrad]

Maybe if it were explained a bit better in game? I had to go asking for advice on it here, definitely got some good suggestions thankfully.

[Bone23]

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Yes, that's really bad. Could you please take the time and report it through Bethesda's support page? The more people report it the higher the chances it gets fixed fast and the devs unfortunately don't read this forum.

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/home/product/1218/category/287

Sucks that we paid to be beta testers without being told that we were going to be beta testers.

[StormhawkV]

Originally posted by Bone23:

Sucks that we paid to be beta testers without being told that we were going to be beta testers.

I kinda agree but it's not really different to any other big gaming company and Bethesda at least supports their products for a long time.

[tkwoods]

So the people saying that it works fine are just pushed aside as if only degrading items about the game are valid.

[TEMPEST]

For the two…people… saying ‘get good’ or ‘works for me’, ‘you’re not doing it right’ nonsense.

A) you’re completely and arrogantly mistaken.
B) if you stand up, you lose stealth/invisibility until you’ve cast void form, making you temporarily visible - that defeats the purpose.
C) you need to be ‘hidden’ I.e. CROUCHED and able to be MOVING AND use void form to perform rapid stealth hits (which can rapidly level up stealth/concealment)

Once you have chameleon armour or concealment/stealth lvl 3 you can’t do this anymore.

Hence BUG!!

[TEMPEST]

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Yes, that's really bad. Could you please take the time and report it through Bethesda's support page? The more people report it the higher the chances it gets fixed fast and the devs unfortunately don't read this forum.

https://help.bethesda.net/#en/home/product/1218/category/287

Thanks for the link. Ticket submitted.

[Ommamar]

I have been trying to use it on a melee/unarmed build which I find very difficult. It seems the gravity burst power breaks it as well so I am guessing it is just a power use thing. I think the best way to raise it is to use a suppressed range weapon preferably one with a lot of range.

[Krash Megiddo]

Originally posted by Tempest:

B) if you stand up, you lose stealth/invisibility until you’ve cast void form, making you temporarily visible - that defeats the purpose.
C) you need to be ‘hidden’ I.e. CROUCHED and able to be MOVING AND use void form to perform rapid stealth hits (which can rapidly level up stealth/concealment)

I do this all the time on stealth missions and nobody sees me. Stealth move into a spot that is out of sight. Stand up, cast Void form, then run out in the open to the next hiding spot. Engage stealth and badda bing works like a charm. I got through the Ryujin mission without raising any alarms.

[Vlad 254]

Originally posted by Tempest:

For the two…people… saying ‘get good’ or ‘works for me’, ‘you’re not doing it right’ nonsense.

A) you’re completely and arrogantly mistaken.
B) if you stand up, you lose stealth/invisibility until you’ve cast void form, making you temporarily visible - that defeats the purpose.
C) you need to be ‘hidden’ I.e. CROUCHED and able to be MOVING AND use void form to perform rapid stealth hits (which can rapidly level up stealth/concealment)

Once you have chameleon armour or concealment/stealth lvl 3 you can’t do this anymore.

Hence BUG!!

You need to learn how to use Concealment, Stealth, Lighting, Shadows, Void Form, Proper carry weight, Clothing, and use them properly. Don't tell me it's broken I use it all the time.

[hardy_conrad]

See now all those things are helpful, but I'm only hearing about them here. Not in the actual game itself. There's no indication of how things like carry weight influence stealth for example. It's basically "here's a stealth skill have fun". Period.

I notice there's a pattern when people raise concerns. Generally speaking they'll point out an issue, then the trolls jump in saying this proves wokeness destroys everything, then the defenders jump in with their take and amidst it all the initial worry vanishes into the background. A pity. This is the first triple A game I have direct experience with and it's quite a ride.

[TEMPEST]

Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:

Originally posted by Tempest:

B) if you stand up, you lose stealth/invisibility until you’ve cast void form, making you temporarily visible - that defeats the purpose.
C) you need to be ‘hidden’ I.e. CROUCHED and able to be MOVING AND use void form to perform rapid stealth hits (which can rapidly level up stealth/concealment)

I do this all the time on stealth missions and nobody sees me. Stealth move into a spot that is out of sight. Stand up, cast Void form, then run out in the open to the next hiding spot. Engage stealth and badda bing works like a charm. I got through the Ryujin mission without raising any alarms.

/smh.

The second you CROUCH again, after activating Void Form in order to get the 'hidden' status and perform a 'Stealth Attack' the damn bug from the Chamelon/Concealment BREAKS the game and you become visible.

THUS PROVING ITS A BUG WHEN YOU ATTACK.

I'm not talking about running from cover to cover you fool. Do try learning how to read the bug definition.

PS I did the Ryujin WITHOUT ANY level in Concealment OR Chameleon armour. Learn what cognitive bias is eh?