Star Citizen Ships Design

[Still]

Just going to leave this here to show you what artfully designed scifi is

https://youtu.be/NpIO7DVkiNo?si=2lrrFvGCtT5Y9O2D

[amperage]

Both games defer to the "Rule of cool" in their own ways. (i.e. They dispense with the science in science fiction)

Starfield however, keeps getting hammered for an area they chose not to, which is the George Lucas / Disney "Fighter Jet" caricature of orbital physics.

[Mickk]

Originally posted by gheistt ∞:

Originally posted by Mickk:

Interesting that you say you don't like the two ship's you bought for SC.
What ship's did you buy?
I want to see them and what they look like.

I bought the Cutlass Black and the Avenger.

The reason I don't love the Cutty Black is that the interior is kind of industrial, like a trucker. But it is a missile boat which I do like.

I don't love the Avenger because of the white paint job, but you can get other paint jobs in the game. I haven't done that yet.

There are just some sleaker, more badass ships that fit me better. Like maybe the scythe or eclipse:

https://youtu.be/FYXq2OaEg8Q?si=j2OVLt_1uSpPb6iP

Okay thanks for detailing that.
So you bought the Cutlass Black ($100USD) and the
Avenger ($60USD or more) and the one you say you like and are considering buying is the
Eclipse ($300USD)

All the pricing I use either comes directly from "Roberts Space industries" (SC's developer) website where they sell those ships for real world money or from the WIKI.

I hope you can see how with those prices and the comparison of a released game to a game that is not released and may well not ever be just smacks of you trying to be antagonistic.

While I do think that Starfield is priced too high, you trying to say that Scam Citizen has better ships and the implication is that we should all buy into that game is frankly hilarious at this point. You might have a point if SC gets released, but I still doubt it.

[Some Kinda Kobold]

Originally posted by Riitoken:

Originally posted by gheistt ∞:

Just going to leave this here to show you what artfully designed scifi is

https://youtu.be/NpIO7DVkiNo?si=2lrrFvGCtT5Y9O2D

I'll take the SF in-game ship builder over SC.
I'm not interested in paying big $!!! for the hand-crafted artistry of another.
I prefer exacting my own design as I will. That's freedom.

Well there's also the fact that every ship that is flyable in Star Citizen is also buyable with ingame Money. Dont have to buy it with real money.

[Some Kinda Kobold]

Originally posted by Mickk:

Originally posted by gheistt ∞:

I bought the Cutlass Black and the Avenger.

The reason I don't love the Cutty Black is that the interior is kind of industrial, like a trucker. But it is a missile boat which I do like.

I don't love the Avenger because of the white paint job, but you can get other paint jobs in the game. I haven't done that yet.

There are just some sleaker, more badass ships that fit me better. Like maybe the scythe or eclipse:

https://youtu.be/FYXq2OaEg8Q?si=j2OVLt_1uSpPb6iP

Okay thanks for detailing that.
So you bought the Cutlass Black ($100USD) and the
Avenger ($60USD or more) and the one you say you like and are considering buying is the
Eclipse ($300USD)

All the pricing I use either comes directly from "Roberts Space industries" (SC's developer) website where they sell those ships for real world money or from the WIKI.

I hope you can see how with those prices and the comparison of a released game to a game that is not released and may well not ever be just smacks of you trying to be antagonistic.

While I do think that Starfield is priced too high, you trying to say that Scam Citizen has better ships and the implication is that we should all buy into that game is frankly hilarious at this point. You might have a point if SC gets released, but I still doubt it.

You can buy just about every ship in SC with ingame Money. :u And if you're still going to call it 'Scam Citizen', I recommend checking out the details they dropped in Citizencon. Because their own Single Player game Squadron 42 is almost finished (In Polish state) And the engine they have finally gotten the hang of, is Leagues better than the garbage the Creation Engine offers.

[Mickk]

Originally posted by Some Kinda Kobold:

Originally posted by Mickk:

Okay thanks for detailing that.
So you bought the Cutlass Black ($100USD) and the
Avenger ($60USD or more) and the one you say you like and are considering buying is the
Eclipse ($300USD)

All the pricing I use either comes directly from "Roberts Space industries" (SC's developer) website where they sell those ships for real world money or from the WIKI.

I hope you can see how with those prices and the comparison of a released game to a game that is not released and may well not ever be just smacks of you trying to be antagonistic.

While I do think that Starfield is priced too high, you trying to say that Scam Citizen has better ships and the implication is that we should all buy into that game is frankly hilarious at this point. You might have a point if SC gets released, but I still doubt it.

You can buy just about every ship in SC with ingame Money. :u And if you're still going to call it 'Scam Citizen', I recommend checking out the details they dropped in Citizencon. Because their own Single Player game Squadron 42 is almost finished (In Polish state) And the engine they have finally gotten the hang of, is Leagues better than the garbage the Creation Engine offers.

Excellent, fantastic and everything is all up in the air until it actually releases, SC and SQ42 included. Do you think that those ships not purchased with real world money are not going to be removed when SC (the multiplayer game) goes live, if it goes live.

[Still]

Originally posted by Mickk:

Originally posted by gheistt ∞:

I bought the Cutlass Black and the Avenger.

The reason I don't love the Cutty Black is that the interior is kind of industrial, like a trucker. But it is a missile boat which I do like.

I don't love the Avenger because of the white paint job, but you can get other paint jobs in the game. I haven't done that yet.

There are just some sleaker, more badass ships that fit me better. Like maybe the scythe or eclipse:

https://youtu.be/FYXq2OaEg8Q?si=j2OVLt_1uSpPb6iP

Okay thanks for detailing that.
So you bought the Cutlass Black ($100USD) and the
Avenger ($60USD or more) and the one you say you like and are considering buying is the
Eclipse ($300USD)

All the pricing I use either comes directly from "Roberts Space industries" (SC's developer) website where they sell those ships for real world money or from the WIKI.

I hope you can see how with those prices and the comparison of a released game to a game that is not released and may well not ever be just smacks of you trying to be antagonistic.

While I do think that Starfield is priced too high, you trying to say that Scam Citizen has better ships and the implication is that we should all buy into that game is frankly hilarious at this point. You might have a point if SC gets released, but I still doubt it.

I also bought an ultrawide, two 1600tm flight sticks, pedals, a bunch of other random stuff. It's my money bro lol. You can buy whatever you want, man. 4 wheelers cost more than any of this. an atv. a boat, etc. why do you care lol.

[Still]

also, as mentioned many many times you can buy the game for $45 and you get the aurora starter ship, a beautiful awesome ship with a bed and everything you would want. you can log out and log back in and you'll be in the ship and stuff or wahtever.

and that's it. you dont have to spend another dollar. you can get any other ship in the game with in-game currency. its an mmo so you will be grinding and doing quests or sometimes players will just give you money. or you can join their crew. i dont care what you do rofl

[Still]

Originally posted by amperage:

Both games defer to the "Rule of cool" in their own ways. (i.e. They dispense with the science in science fiction)

Starfield however, keeps getting hammered for an area they chose not to, which is the George Lucas / Disney "Fighter Jet" caricature of orbital physics.

star citizen ships must enter orbit and fly in atmospheres which star citizien also has. do you ahve the game? it sounds like you dont have teh game.

anyway ships are designed to fly in air and stuff as well as space. they land on planets and fly around canyons and stuff. it functions like you would hope starfield would.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by Mickk:

Originally posted by Some Kinda Kobold:

You can buy just about every ship in SC with ingame Money. :u And if you're still going to call it 'Scam Citizen', I recommend checking out the details they dropped in Citizencon. Because their own Single Player game Squadron 42 is almost finished (In Polish state) And the engine they have finally gotten the hang of, is Leagues better than the garbage the Creation Engine offers.

Excellent, fantastic and everything is all up in the air until it actually releases, SC and SQ42 included. Do you think that those ships not purchased with real world money are not going to be removed when SC (the multiplayer game) goes live, if it goes live.

obviously there will be a reset, it's an MMO lol I don't think I've ever played an MMO that hasn't done a reset for full release. They'll never be removed again after that though

[amperage]

Originally posted by gheistt ∞:

star citizen ships must enter orbit and fly in atmospheres which star citizien also has. do you ahve the game? it sounds like you dont have teh game.

I do have the game although to be honest, it has been shelved for about 18 months

The problem is in the mechanic. The energy that must be shed in the descent from a stable orbit to a planetary surface is roughly equal to the energy that was expended in the ascent from a planetary surface to a stable orbit.

Star Citizen (At least when I played it) perpetuates the fiction that orbital descent is simply a matter of angling the nose of your space plane down slightly and "flying" it in, but that is completely backwards.

The minimum orbital velocity for an Earth sized planet is just under 8 kilometers a second, which is Mach 23+ or roughly 9 times faster than a rifle bullet. Shedding that velocity (energy) is an aft-first braking maneuver. If the ship is designed to either glide or fly in an atmosphere, it is turned around nose first only after a sufficient amount of the orbital velocity has been shed. Otherwise you would be ripped apart and incinerated, even if your ship was solid metal through and through.

Like I said, it is an example of the "Rule of cool" --The laws of physics have been suspended to make the game more fun and engaging.

I don't mean this a negatively as it might sound and I do like the game. I just don't think it's terribly fair that Starfield is being hammered for not including this mechanic.

[ChickenBalls]

lol why are there so many Scam Citizen fanboys here?

Originally posted by gheistt ∞:

Originally posted by ChickenBalls:

yes paying hundreds or even thousands of dollars for pixel space ships that can be blown up and lost forever
fun!

its actually kind of nice knowing the other players are all grown ups with stable jobs for the most part. no offense to anyone who doesnt have a stable job (been there for sure)

yeah only those who love Scam Citizen and don't criticize it are "grown ups with stable jobs", right?