Have a question but it contains SPOILERS.

[LostManAbroad]

So I have just made my second jump to the Unity. There were a few things I intended to do differently in my last run so I thought I would start over. This time things are different however. I first went to the Lodge but instead of meeting the Constellation people, the Hunter was there. Weirdly, he gave me his artefact piece and those that Constellation had already gathered.

I just had to gather the remaining pieces but then I noticed something annoying. In this universe, I can no longer access my own inventory. Anywhere I try and access it it tells me that it is inaccessible. Also, I cannot save the game anymore. Is this normal or is the game broken?

[Krash Megiddo]

Sounds broken. Why not load your last saved game before the Unity and try again?

[wtiger27]

You can get some odd different universes in NG+. One of mine, had all the Constellation members, as children. I also could not access my inventory. I just loaded a save before I went thru the Unity and then it was a "normal" one. I think some are just meant as a laugh.

So, i do not think it is a bug, just Beth's warped sense of humor. You can check to see if the NG+ run will be odd or not, by first checking if you can access your inventory while on the ship, before you fly to New Atlantis. If not, reload a save.

[Six of Saturn]

It is a bug, console command Setinchargen 0 0 0 will fix, but you will lose achievements. If that is a concern you can download the achievement mod if you wish to use the command.

[Six of Saturn]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

You can get some odd different universes in NG+. One of mine, had all the Constellation members, as children. I also could not access my inventory. I just loaded a save before I went thru the Unity and then it was a "normal" one. I think some are just meant as a laugh.

So, i do not think it is a bug, just Beth's warped sense of humor. You can check to see if the NG+ run will be odd or not, by first checking if you can access your inventory while on the ship, before you fly to New Atlantis. If not, reload a save.

This is absolutely a bug because the game intends for you to continue on gathering relics and using The Eye on your own or with Vladimir(If he is still around in the variation you get) to find temples and get powers. It has been placed as a high priority fix at BGS on their support site. We will see if that is included in the upcoming patch.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

You can get some odd different universes in NG+. One of mine, had all the Constellation members, as children. I also could not access my inventory. I just loaded a save before I went thru the Unity and then it was a "normal" one. I think some are just meant as a laugh.

So, i do not think it is a bug, just Beth's warped sense of humor. You can check to see if the NG+ run will be odd or not, by first checking if you can access your inventory while on the ship, before you fly to New Atlantis. If not, reload a save.

This is absolutely a bug because the game intends for you to continue on gathering relics and using The Eye on your own or with Vladimir(If he is still around in the variation you get) to find temples and get powers. It has been placed as a high priority fix at BGS on their support site. We will see if that is included in the upcoming patch.

So how would you do the Main Quest again like you did in the non NG+ run, with all the Constellation members being children? And have the option to romance one? So do they magically become adults after you pick redo the Main Quest? lol.

[Geldric™]

@SoS provides the fix (console command)

The No Inventory/No Save is indeed a bug that can and does happen after entering your new universe. So...

1: ALWAYS press F5 (quicksave) after entering The Unity
2: ALWAYS check your inventory/save once you have loaded into your new Universe
3: There are 10 alternate universes... you got one of them <- not a bug

Regarding the "how" question - ALL 10 of the alternate universes are handled as if you chose to SKIP the Main story - just collect the artifacts and head to the Unity. You don't have the option of completing the Main story.

[Krash Megiddo]

One of those weird universes would skip many of the main quest/companion missions, but it would still be playable with all the side quests and powers collection.

[Six of Saturn]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

This is absolutely a bug because the game intends for you to continue on gathering relics and using The Eye on your own or with Vladimir(If he is still around in the variation you get) to find temples and get powers. It has been placed as a high priority fix at BGS on their support site. We will see if that is included in the upcoming patch.

So how would you do the Main Quest again like you did in the non NG+ run, with all the Constellation members being children? And have the option to romance one? So do they magically become adults after you pick redo the Main Quest? lol.

You don't, you do it all on your own. The Hunter gave the OP everything he needed just as Constellation does when you tell them you are Starborn. You just do this universe without them.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Geldric:

@SoS provides the fix (console command)

The No Inventory/No Save is indeed a bug that can and does happen after entering your new universe. So...

1: ALWAYS press F5 (quicksave) after entering The Unity
2: ALWAYS check your inventory/save once you have loaded into your new Universe
3: There are 10 alternate universes... you got one of them <- not a bug

Regarding the "how" question - ALL 10 of the alternate universes are handled as if you chose to SKIP the Main story - just collect the artifacts and head to the Unity. You don't have the option of completing the Main story.

I did 10x NG+ runs. Never had any which did not give me the option to redo the Main quest. Which part of it, certainly involves the companions.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Krash Megiddo:

One of those weird universes would skip many of the main quest/companion missions, but it would still be playable with all the side quests and powers collection.

Then there would be no reason to redo the Main Quest as a option. Not saying you are wrong, but it makes no sense. But I am also not surprised it is that way.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

So how would you do the Main Quest again like you did in the non NG+ run, with all the Constellation members being children? And have the option to romance one? So do they magically become adults after you pick redo the Main Quest? lol.

You don't, you do it all on your own. The Hunter gave the OP everything he needed just as Constellation does when you tell them you are Starborn. You just do this universe without them.

That makes sense if you select " Skip the main quest" which I did in every NG+ run I did. It however, makes no sense at all, if you want to redo the Main quest chain.

[Six of Saturn]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Originally posted by Geldric:

@SoS provides the fix (console command)

The No Inventory/No Save is indeed a bug that can and does happen after entering your new universe. So...

1: ALWAYS press F5 (quicksave) after entering The Unity
2: ALWAYS check your inventory/save once you have loaded into your new Universe
3: There are 10 alternate universes... you got one of them <- not a bug

Regarding the "how" question - ALL 10 of the alternate universes are handled as if you chose to SKIP the Main story - just collect the artifacts and head to the Unity. You don't have the option of completing the Main story.

I did 10x NG+ runs. Never had any which did not give me the option to redo the Main quest. Which part of it, certainly involves the companions.

That is because you reloaded the variation with the kids. The kids gave you everything you needed to find the Artifacts and reach the Unity again on your own. But yeah in normal constellation universe you always get the choice.

I am ATM on my NG+10 I have had two alternates one with an evil me that killed everyone in constellation and I had to defeat them and the greedy Walter surrounded by Ecliptic mercs after he bought out constellation and fired everyone. They all gave me the tools I needed to gather remaining artifacts and re enter the Unity.

[Six of Saturn]

Originally posted by wtiger27:

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

You don't, you do it all on your own. The Hunter gave the OP everything he needed just as Constellation does when you tell them you are Starborn. You just do this universe without them.

That makes sense if you select " Skip the main quest" which I did in every NG+ run I did. It however, makes no sense at all, if you want to redo the Main quest chain.

If the player wants that they just have to keep going to find there way back to a Universe in which Constellation was intact again. Or reload.

[wtiger27]

Originally posted by Six of Saturn:

Originally posted by wtiger27:

That makes sense if you select " Skip the main quest" which I did in every NG+ run I did. It however, makes no sense at all, if you want to redo the Main quest chain.

If the player wants that they just have to keep going to find there way back to a Universe in which Constellation was intact again. Or reload.

I picked skipping the dumb Main quest each time. I only did 10x NG runs because of wanting the Phased Time level X. It was not for the story at all. I did not try to get all the powers in each NG run. I found out the one power I wanted level up, you got that automatically at the end of the Main quest, at the Buried Temple. I have it now and am done with the NG+ crap.

And yes, only had to reload twice in the 10 NG+ runs I did. So yeah, I know what options are available. :P

[Geldric™]

As "Max" said in the Outer Worlds.... "I can see we'll be using small words today" /s

Originally posted by wtiger27:

I did 10x NG+ runs. Never had any which did not give me the option to redo the Main quest. Which part of it, certainly involves the companions.

.. and ALL those were the NORMAL universe (not one of the 10 "special" universes)