Mantis Modification

[M4LX]

How many parts can you swap out on the Mantis before its no longer the Mantis?

[Doc4holiday]

When you read through the logs the "mantis mom" left she mentions how the ship is somewhat outdated but that the helm holds some recognition. id think you could make updates as long as you keep the cockpit.... I do not have a for sure answer tho. Save and try it out!

[Knottypine]

There are a few conflicting answers online. I've read that some people have swapped out everything and it's still recognized, while others say they lose the recognition. Doc4holiday brought up a good point as well. It's one of those things that may take trial and error.

[Red]

In my play through I swapped out everything, even the name and it was still recognised as the mantis

[Ihateeverybody]

Pretty sure you can swap out any piece. The Hull is what is important (the Ship itself not the stat Hull points).

Only piece I have remaining is the shielded cargo.

Edit: You can even rename it if you want. I have heard issues with armory, stuff disapearing, reverting to non modded state. But you hear that about any armory on any ship. If it can't be recovered don't risk putting it on display is my motto.

[roach112683]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Pretty sure you can swap out any piece. The Hull is what is important (the Ship itself not the stat Hull points).

Only piece I have remaining is the shielded cargo.

Edit: You can even rename it if you want. I have heard issues with armory, stuff disapearing, reverting to non modded state. But you hear that about any armory on any ship. If it can't be recovered don't risk putting it on display is my motto.

They fixed that in like the first patch.

[roach112683]

Originally posted by M4LX WMD:

How many parts can you swap out on the Mantis before its no longer the Mantis?

I added More modules and changed the name. Still get the recognition. I think it has to do with the slot itself and not the actual ship. If you completely rebuild it you should still have that recognition.

[sarcastic_godot]

All.

It still works fine for me, and mine looks like this:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3068176635

BUT: Do not - like never ever - swap out these brick engines until you have arrived at rank 3 Starship Design. They're dang powerful when you get the Razorleaf, and you won't be able to re-buy them bfore that.

[Xhaiden]

The ship of Theseus?

[Random Zero Gravity]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Pretty sure you can swap out any piece. The Hull is what is important (the Ship itself not the stat Hull points).

Only piece I have remaining is the shielded cargo.

Edit: You can even rename it if you want. I have heard issues with armory, stuff disapearing, reverting to non modded state. But you hear that about any armory on any ship. If it can't be recovered don't risk putting it on display is my motto.

Just to update: Any display from the ship will go to your cargo ship including from the armory. Also, the in-game generated display items. So far those generated in-game display items, you can sell it, it will still inside the ship as display, so far.

[Lavian]

Originally posted by Random Zero Gravity:

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Pretty sure you can swap out any piece. The Hull is what is important (the Ship itself not the stat Hull points).

Only piece I have remaining is the shielded cargo.

Edit: You can even rename it if you want. I have heard issues with armory, stuff disapearing, reverting to non modded state. But you hear that about any armory on any ship. If it can't be recovered don't risk putting it on display is my motto.

Just to update: Any display from the ship will go to your cargo ship including from the armory. Also, the in-game generated display items. So far those generated in-game display items, you can sell it, it will still inside the ship as display, so far.

This was an issue that they addressed in a patch over a month ago, but I don't know if there's remaining issues. People still talk about the issue often enough, but I don't know if that's just residual reports of people talking about their experiences from back before the patch. I personally haven't tried displaying anything since before the patch (after suffering from the bug myself on some armor).

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1716740/announcements/detail/3741984674874067189?snr=2_9_100015_

Ships

• Displays: Fixed an issue that would cause displayed items to disappear when applied to in-ship mannequins.
  
• Displays: Fixed an issue that would cause items stored in Razorleaf Storage Containers and Weapon Racks to disappear after commandeering another ship.

[roach112683]

Originally posted by Lavian:

Originally posted by Random Zero Gravity:

Just to update: Any display from the ship will go to your cargo ship including from the armory. Also, the in-game generated display items. So far those generated in-game display items, you can sell it, it will still inside the ship as display, so far.

This was an issue that they addressed in a patch over a month ago, but I don't know if there's remaining issues. People still talk about the issue often enough, but I don't know if that's just residual reports of people talking about their experiences from back before the patch. I personally haven't tried displaying anything since before the patch (after suffering from the bug myself on some armor).

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1716740/announcements/detail/3741984674874067189?snr=2_9_100015_

Ships

• Displays: Fixed an issue that would cause displayed items to disappear when applied to in-ship mannequins.
  
• Displays: Fixed an issue that would cause items stored in Razorleaf Storage Containers and Weapon Racks to disappear after commandeering another ship.

I have. I added an Armory to my Star Eagle and haven't had any issues except when I would modify as usual to the hold.

[Pakratjr]

You can delete the entire ship and build from scratch. That's what I do. As long as you build under the Razorleaf flag it will always be the Razorleaf. I'm also 99% sure you can rename it, I have seen it mentioned but I've never tried. Always liked and kept the name myself.And for the lore and whatnot.

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by M4LX WMD:

How many parts can you swap out on the Mantis before its no longer the Mantis?

100% of them.

All ships in the game remember what their original 'model' was even if you change everything including the name. You'll often see the original default name when looking at things like the docking computers on the vigilance.

[roach112683]

Originally posted by suicidal_godot:

All.

It still works fine for me, and mine looks like this:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3068176635

BUT: Do not - like never ever - swap out these brick engines until you have arrived at rank 3 Starship Design. They're dang powerful when you get the Razorleaf, and you won't be able to re-buy them bfore that.

I actually took those off and added the Hercules Engines which is the double version Class B of those.

Not the highest level of them but better than the ones currently. When I first modified it was too heavy so I had to put those on. It was available on Ship Design 2. Just FYI.

[Ihateeverybody]

I don't like the Hercules Engines. Way to noisy.

Posidon's "DT230s x2? paired with 2 ?SAL 6830?s (or 6330's if you didn't progress the main quest) provide the best thrust/mobility for 12 power pips.