Mantis letdown

[Marika]

I wore Silver shroud outfit the entire game in Fallout 4 and there was unexpected reactivity to this at times

Mantis ship + outfit are both garbage

[Ihateeverybody]

Originally posted by Ellorien:

This is an early game ship/armor. And as an early game stuff it is great. You are not supposed to “wear it the entire game.” You are expected to do this quest at the very beginning, enjoy your new legendary toy for awhile then move onto better things. The longer you play the better gear you find. You cant even build a decent ship until you reach lvl 60. Everything you build before lvl 60 and cost less than 500,000 credits to build is garbage.
Everything you buy, steal, find or get as a reward is garbage compared to what you can build after lvl 60. In short, Razorleaf and the Mantis set are for noobs only.

Eh, I have a pretty kickass ship by 30. Its not as great as the one I have at 60+ (I forget what level the last good equipment spawns). But its very viable.

I will agree you can't build a Fleet Killer until 60s but decent. With the right perks and knowledge, you can.

Current Level 30 ship (Level 4 Pilot, Level 4 Starship Designer)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3048469526

Edit: And my current playthrough plan is to wait until 50 to see if I can roll an advanced or Superior Set of Mantis armor. Because pretty much everything else looks lame.

[tzeneth]

The mantis armor is the best save scum legendary you can get. You can easily reroll until you get 3 things you like. I've done this for my last 2 characters and I don't bother with better armored armor because it doesn't have the decreased oxygen use and increased carrying capacity my mantis armor has. The ship is better than the starter ship but meh otherwise. I usually use it as a base ship because I like having the enemies occasionally run away and skip the kind of pointless space encounters.

[theseeman]

I'm working on making the Razorleaf into an anti pirate cruiser.

[HeyYou]

Even the previous Mantis admits that the ship needs upgrades.......

I have used the Mantis spacesuit, etc, for entire playthrus, even at level 90, as I never found anything better..... Of course, I use a mod that lets me change the legendary attributes.... and my Spacesuit engineering skill is maxed... so, yeah, might be merely 'ok' when I first get it, but, after some mods and legendary shuffling..... it's actually quite good.

I try and avoid using the Razorleaf though, as I also want to kill the pirates/bounty hunters, not have them run off when the recognize me..... I generally go an kill 'em anyway, and the same goes for the bounty hunter defenders that taunt me after a battle. :D

[Mudpony]

I did the mission far below level 30, so the ship was quite nice for me. Of course, I made it much,much better by swapping parts out, and by now, probably 2/3rds or more of the ship has been replaced.

The suit I really didn't use. What it did was not great, and, more importantly, that same mission gave me another space suit that was better, that I just only recently replaced. So while I didn't wear the Mantis Armor, I did wear a suit from the Mantis mission. The design team should probably have made the Mantis Armor be a bit higher level, to reduce the chance of that sort of thing happening.

Overall, the mission gets you some nice stuff for a first time level 10-15ish player.