Why does the game consider this Beowulf a "Particle" weapon?

[Jaggid Edje]

I've been using a pretty sweet Beowulf rifle that I found (and modded out) for quite a while in my current game.

This morning I put a point into the Particle weapons combat skill and the Beowulf is giving me credit for the particle weapon skill challenge. As in, the game considers it a particle weapon.

Anyone know why? Here's the stats:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3046592020

[SylenThunder]

Best guess is because of the Shattering effect, and the use of AP rounds.

[EzRyder]

that is curious, it may well be one of the effects

if there was a way for you to try a normal beowolf ... that may tell for sure
afaik its a ballistic and i hope ive not skilled the wrong thing lol
(nice weapon btw)

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by EzRyder:

that is curious, it may well be one of the effects

if there was a way for you to try a normal beowolf ... that may tell for sure
afaik its a ballistic and i hope ive not skilled the wrong thing lol
(nice weapon btw)

I know a normal Beowulf counts as a ballistic weapon, because that was what I mostly used when leveling the ballistic skill.

I just found out that my magshear, which also has the elemental attribute, is also being counted as a particle weapon. So I'm thinking it might be the 'elemental" affect. The beowulf and the magshear don't have much else in common.

All I know for sure right now is that I'm glad I put a point into Particle weapons...because both of the guns I use the most which I thought were ballistic are counting as particle.

[EzRyder]

nice, i will have to try with mine, its not got any effects so should tell us
i can afford to throw a point in Particle weapons for fun
im too curious now to not so will get back in a few :P

this is good info if they share/use these 'extra' stats for these challenges

edit:
darn i forgot i had spent my unused points last night, will be a minute

[Jaggid Edje]

Looking forward to finding out what you find.

I've got 4 unspent skill points right now, and it looks like I'll be using 3 of them to take particle weapons all the way up. I hadn't committed to that when I first took 1 point in the skill. Just have to do all the skill challenges.

I like the tier 4 bonus for particle weapons better than the ballistic one, so there's another upside.

[Langkard]

Instigating perhaps? A mistake in the coding making the extra 100% damage to a target at full health particle beam instead of ballistic?

[ParatrooperGR]

Ugh... I hope someone will get to the bottom of this. Count me in the camp of people using a Beowulf as their core weapon and thinking it's ballistic.....

[SylenThunder]

Yeah, because it should be based entirely on the type of ammunition used. Not on whatever effects the weapon has tacked onto it.

[EzRyder]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Looking forward to finding out what you find.

I've got 4 unspent skill points right now, and it looks like I'll be using 3 of them to take particle weapons all the way up. I hadn't committed to that when I first took 1 point in the skill. Just have to do all the skill challenges.

I like the tier 4 bonus for particle weapons better than the ballistic one, so there's another upside.

i can confirm i am Not getting any particle beam Challange kills with my Adv Beowolf
i tried both critter and human enemies and im still at 0/20

so that suggests these effects will also improve with those skills?
i would have to think they will myself, maybe watch this when you add the next point

[Jaggid Edje]

Circling back to this thread to let everyone know that it looks like this was just a "bug" for the first skill challenge for the particle weapon skill. After advancing the skill to rank 2 and starting the next skill challenge, the Beowulf no longer is counting. It seems they have something set up wrong for just that first skill challenge.