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slow_cheetah Oct 5, 2023 @ 10:18am
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Aluminum, seriously?
Haven't gotten to the game yet myself, just saw it on a stream:
First I thought "Aluminum" might be some form of weird space ressource, but then I saw the chemical sign Al. Please tell me that this has already been fixed.
Please don't tell me that you failed to spell a basic metal wrong, in a SCIENCE fiction game.
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David Davidson Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:00pm 
Originally posted by Kilonova:
Originally posted by David Davidson:


If the gas vents aren't pure, how come you don't need an outpost and purifier to extract the gas?

They has been used to refer to an individual of unknown gender (male or female) for centuries.
For example "That delivery driver is taking forever, I wonder when they'll arrive" "The driver apologized for being late, he had a flat tire"
Once you know whether a person is male or female (which can be done by looking at a person's face in >95% of cases, we're highly evolved to pick out potential mates) they is only used in plural form.

If you can find an example of someone who is not an unknown being referred to as a they in English literature from before the year 1950 I'll give you a steam award.

The same reason you don't have to land and refuel your ship, there are certain design/gameplay choices.

Considering language is heavily influenced by context, I understand they/them interchangeably as an unknown/known entity rather easily. Look up what the word 'punk' used to mean, too.

As far as sexual dimorphism, it's quite low among humans, at an avg of 15%. You're not going to make a distinction by face 95% of the time, if that were the case then other "cultural" markers like makeup, clothing, long hair, or the way hair is styled to easily and (if not lazily) categorize would not be such a strong social pressure, which in itself is silly.

I'd call them lazy design/gameplay choices. You wouldn't land to refuel your ship, plenty of helium 3 around a star given that helium is the product of hydrogen fusion. Having to scoop fuel like in Elite Dangerous would make the game more interesting and make fuel capacity mean something. It's clear this is a dropped feature, otherwise why have fuel tanks?

While language changes over time, using a word which is used for unknown and plural already to also mean known is lazy and more confusing than the meaning of a noun, such as your example changing over time.

For your final paragraph, while human sexual dimorphism is definitely lower than that of other animals, we've evolved extremely well to tell whether or not someone is a potential mate just by looking at their face. No hair or piercings needed:
Originally posted by pubmed:
People are remarkably accurate (approaching ceiling) at deciding whether faces are male or female, even when cues from hair style, makeup, and facial hair are minimised.
Link[pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
Thecrippler Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:08pm 
Post regarding aluminum spelling you gotta be kidding :steamfacepalm:
ZombieHunter Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:11pm 
It isn't the only word that is spelled different between USA and UK. Color is another one. And there are more. I'm not sure when the US started to change British words into their own versions. But we aren't the only ones. Australians and Brits also have not only different spellings but different words for the same thing. I was on a team long ago that had a Brit and an Aussie on it and to hear them bicker back and forth over their differences in what they called things was quite comical.
David Davidson Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
It isn't the only word that is spelled different between USA and UK. Color is another one. And there are more. I'm not sure when the US started to change British words into their own versions. But we aren't the only ones. Australians and Brits also have not only different spellings but different words for the same thing. I was on a team long ago that had a Brit and an Aussie on it and to hear them bicker back and forth over their differences in what they called things was quite comical.
This isn't a USA vs UK thing though.
Literally every other nation in the world other than the US and Canada (and maybe Liberia, lol) call it aluminium in the context of chemistry. As a metal or alloy they may have adapted it to their language, though on a periodic table, it'll be called aluminium. It's an IUPAC spelling, the I is for "international" if we became a spacefaring race (and starfield is very mixed in terms of races and national accents) it'd almost certainly change to Aluminium.

Bethesda could have even incorporated this into their writing. The quest involving the 200 year old generation ship around Porrima II could have made reference to it Engineer: "Okay, so when installing the grav drive we'll need some extra aluminum" player "Don't you mean aluminium" Companion "No, the nation this ship came from on old earth called it aluminum" that would have been somewhat immersive. Instead it seems that Eggmund Has been a desk decoration for >200 years
Last edited by David Davidson; Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:25pm
box Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:21pm 
Assgoodgoy didn't complain about Aluminium being spelt correctly so it must be fine.
vaanomega Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:25pm 
Aluminum or Aluminium... who cares, if you want to see Aluminium rather than Aluminum, just play in French :steamhappy:

Or ask for a mod :steammocking:
EzRyder Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:27pm 
Originally posted by David Davidson:
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
It isn't the only word that is spelled different between USA and UK. Color is another one. And there are more. I'm not sure when the US started to change British words into their own versions. But we aren't the only ones. Australians and Brits also have not only different spellings but different words for the same thing. I was on a team long ago that had a Brit and an Aussie on it and to hear them bicker back and forth over their differences in what they called things was quite comical.
This isn't a USA vs UK thing though.
Literally every other nation in the world other than the US and Canada (and maybe Liberia, lol) call it aluminium in the context of chemistry. As a metal or alloy they may have adapted it to their language, though on a periodic table, it'll be called aluminium. It's an IUPAC spelling, the I is for "international" if we became a spacefaring race (and starfield is very mixed in terms of races and accents) it'd almost certainly change to Aluminium.

Bethesda could have even incorporated this into their writing. The quest involving the 200 year old generation ship around Porrima II could have made reference to it Engineer: "Okay, so when installing the grav drive we'll need some extra aluminum" player "Don't you mean aluminium" Companion "No, the nation this ship came from on old earth called it aluminum" that would have been somewhat immersive. Instead it seems that Eggmund Has been a desk decoration for >200 years
again Your Wrong, this IS about UK vs America - Specifically the Language Differences that have Evolved over the years Just like the Hundreds of variations of 'english' in the UK
its Only You that wants to separate this One word for some reason
personally i think it may be just to have a reason to bash on a video game, but surely your not that shallow
Last edited by EzRyder; Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:28pm
Consolgamer Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:36pm 
Originally posted by slow_cheetah:
Haven't gotten to the game yet myself, just saw it on a stream:
First I thought "Aluminum" might be some form of weird space ressource, but then I saw the chemical sign Al. Please tell me that this has already been fixed.
Please don't tell me that you failed to spell a basic metal wrong, in a SCIENCE fiction game.
Imagine attacking a company for a spelling mistake.
Caduryn Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by Consolgamer:
Originally posted by slow_cheetah:
Haven't gotten to the game yet myself, just saw it on a stream:
First I thought "Aluminum" might be some form of weird space ressource, but then I saw the chemical sign Al. Please tell me that this has already been fixed.
Please don't tell me that you failed to spell a basic metal wrong, in a SCIENCE fiction game.
Imagine attacking a company for a spelling mistake.
Imagine realising it is not a spelling mistake. :steamhappy:
ZombieHunter Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by David Davidson:
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
It isn't the only word that is spelled different between USA and UK. Color is another one. And there are more. I'm not sure when the US started to change British words into their own versions. But we aren't the only ones. Australians and Brits also have not only different spellings but different words for the same thing. I was on a team long ago that had a Brit and an Aussie on it and to hear them bicker back and forth over their differences in what they called things was quite comical.
This isn't a USA vs UK thing though.
Literally every other nation in the world other than the US and Canada (and maybe Liberia, lol) call it aluminium in the context of chemistry. As a metal or alloy they may have adapted it to their language, though on a periodic table, it'll be called aluminium. It's an IUPAC spelling, the I is for "international" if we became a spacefaring race (and starfield is very mixed in terms of races and national accents) it'd almost certainly change to Aluminium.

Bethesda could have even incorporated this into their writing. The quest involving the 200 year old generation ship around Porrima II could have made reference to it Engineer: "Okay, so when installing the grav drive we'll need some extra aluminum" player "Don't you mean aluminium" Companion "No, the nation this ship came from on old earth called it aluminum" that would have been somewhat immersive. Instead it seems that Eggmund Has been a desk decoration for >200 years
'Every other nation in the world'

Yeah I don't speak in absolutes. Any further discussion with you and your mindset is a waste of energy on my part.
Consolgamer Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Caduryn:
Originally posted by Consolgamer:
Imagine attacking a company for a spelling mistake.
Imagine realising it is not a spelling mistake. :steamhappy:
The OP said it was so
David Davidson Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by EzRyder:
Originally posted by David Davidson:
This isn't a USA vs UK thing though.
Literally every other nation in the world other than the US and Canada (and maybe Liberia, lol) call it aluminium in the context of chemistry. As a metal or alloy they may have adapted it to their language, though on a periodic table, it'll be called aluminium. It's an IUPAC spelling, the I is for "international" if we became a spacefaring race (and starfield is very mixed in terms of races and accents) it'd almost certainly change to Aluminium.

Bethesda could have even incorporated this into their writing. The quest involving the 200 year old generation ship around Porrima II could have made reference to it Engineer: "Okay, so when installing the grav drive we'll need some extra aluminum" player "Don't you mean aluminium" Companion "No, the nation this ship came from on old earth called it aluminum" that would have been somewhat immersive. Instead it seems that Eggmund Has been a desk decoration for >200 years
again Your Wrong, this IS about UK vs America - Specifically the Language Differences that have Evolved over the years Just like the Hundreds of variations of 'english' in the UK
its Only You that wants to separate this One word for some reason
personally i think it may be just to have a reason to bash on a video game, but surely your not that shallow
https://ibb.co/92JkhQq

The word is separate because it is not an English language word, it is an element as named by IUPAC.
It's not the same as color and colour, words which vary greatly from language to language, aluminium is aluminium, just like helium is helium or neon is neon.
Last edited by David Davidson; Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:47pm
Caduryn Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Consolgamer:
Originally posted by Caduryn:
Imagine realising it is not a spelling mistake. :steamhappy:
The OP said it was so
Op failed education
EzRyder Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:48pm 
Originally posted by David Davidson:
Originally posted by EzRyder:
again Your Wrong, this IS about UK vs America - Specifically the Language Differences that have Evolved over the years Just like the Hundreds of variations of 'english' in the UK
its Only You that wants to separate this One word for some reason
personally i think it may be just to have a reason to bash on a video game, but surely your not that shallow
https://ibb.co/92JkhQq
i get it already, you think Americans can Not have their own language (dialect really)
tough lol they Do, and you 'not believing it' doesnt change it
Last edited by EzRyder; Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:51pm
David Davidson Oct 5, 2023 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by EzRyder:
Originally posted by David Davidson:
https://ibb.co/92JkhQq
i get it already, you think Americans can Not have their own language
tough lol they Do, and you 'not believing it' doesnt change that

You might not have seen my edit, I'll paste it here:
The word is separate because it is not an English language word, it is an element as named by IUPAC.
It's not the same as color and colour, words which vary greatly from language to language, aluminium is aluminium, just like helium is helium or neon is neon.

We're talking about an element, which is called aluminium in every chemistry classroom and lab in the world except for in the US.

It's like saying Metric vs Imperial is a UK vs US issue.

Originally posted by wikipedia:
It appeared that the name was created from the English word alum and the Latin suffix -ium; but it was customary then to give elements names originating in Latin, so this name was not adopted universally. This name was criticized by contemporary chemists from France, Germany, and Sweden, who insisted the metal should be named for the oxide, alumina, from which it would be isolated.[117] The English name alum does not come directly from Latin, whereas alumine/alumina obviously comes from the Latin word alumen (upon declension, alumen changes to alumin-).

One example was Essai sur la Nomenclature chimique (July 1811), written in French by a Swedish chemist, Jöns Jacob Berzelius, in which the name aluminium is given to the element that would be synthesized from alum.[118][k] (Another article in the same journal issue also gives the name aluminium to the metal whose oxide is the basis of sapphire.)[120] A January 1811 summary of one of Davy's lectures at the Royal Society mentioned the name aluminium as a possibility.
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