BUG: on exiting pause menu or inventory FPS drops to 12

[lordFrith]

Anyone else experiancing this?

game runs at at solid 30-60 fps until i open any of the UI screens and then, when exiting, FPS in game world immediately tanks to about 12 fps.

can only be fixed (sometimes) by toggling in and out of menus a few times or restarting game. Very annoying.

Seems to be worse after latest patch.

i've found some threads on reddit about this but not many from recently, and none of the suggested fixes online seems to actually do anything.

windows 10
amd ryzen7
16gb ram
geforce 1650ti
SSD

GPU drivers and windows up to date

chances of anyone seeing this before it gets buried under IRRELEVENT ranting about gender politics are low but heres hoping

[Chip Patton]

Originally posted by lordFrith:

Anyone else experiancing this?

game runs at at solid 30-60 fps until i open any of the UI screens and then, when exiting, FPS in game world immediately tanks to about 12 fps.

can only be fixed (sometimes) by toggling in and out of menus a few times or restarting game. Very annoying.

Seems to be worse after latest patch.

i've found some threads on reddit about this but not many from recently, and none of the suggested fixes online seems to actually do anything.

windows 10
amd ryzen7
16gb ram
geforce 1650ti
SSD

GPU drivers and windows up to date

chances of anyone seeing this before it gets buried under IRRELEVENT ranting about gender politics are low but heres hoping

This is intentional here is a mod that fixes it:

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/497

[lordFrith]

Originally posted by Chip Patton:

This is intentional here is a mod that fixes it:

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/497

thanks chip i'll give that a try though my problem is not the UI itself its the game world FPS tanking after being in the UI

[lordFrith]

hmm interesting, it doesn't fully solve the problem but it does seem to make it happen less often and make it easier to revert frame rate back to acceptable levels. Game might at least be playable again, after the last patch issue was so consistant its been pretty game breaking.

[p1xel]

Same problem, tried everyting I could find here, on nexus and reddit. This should be patched weeks ago...

[lordFrith]

Originally posted by p1xel:

Same problem, tried everyting I could find here, on nexus and reddit. This should be patched weeks ago...

have also seen people suggest this is a lack of VRAM, although my GPU is over minimum ideally it should have at least 6gb of VRAM or these bottlenecks form and i have just 4gb.
so maybe one of the 1k optimised texture packs off nexus would help.

problem is, llike chips suggestion above, so far these fixes boost fps a bit or make game smoother, but this issue persists regardless.

[p1xel]

Originally posted by lordFrith:

Originally posted by p1xel:

Same problem, tried everyting I could find here, on nexus and reddit. This should be patched weeks ago...

have also seen people suggest this is a lack of VRAM, although my GPU is over minimum ideally it should have at least 6gb of VRAM or these bottlenecks form and i have just 4gb.
so maybe one of the 1k optimised texture packs off nexus would help.

problem is, llike chips suggestion above, so far these fixes boost fps a bit or make game smoother, but this issue persists regardless.

I'm on 3070ti with 8gb of vram and just installed 1k texture mod. It slightly increased fps in NA but fps frop still there.
Also I've noticed "BUS usage" increase in MSI afterburner then it happens. My guess would be memory leak or something...

[PolWynlind]

I've also been experiencing this issue. Sometimes just doing a quicksave will fix, sometimes a save and reload and sometimes I have to restart the whole game. I've noticed that when it happens, my GPU usage gets maxed out.

[lordFrith]

Originally posted by p1xel:

I'm on 3070ti with 8gb of vram and just installed 1k texture mod. It slightly increased fps in NA but fps frop still there.
Also I've noticed "BUS usage" increase in MSI afterburner then it happens. My guess would be memory leak or something...

thanks for reporting back on that you jus saved me a download.

been doubting my pc but no, this is a bug isn't it.

[sonderkraftfahrzeug]

Originally posted by lordFrith:

Originally posted by p1xel:

I'm on 3070ti with 8gb of vram and just installed 1k texture mod. It slightly increased fps in NA but fps frop still there.
Also I've noticed "BUS usage" increase in MSI afterburner then it happens. My guess would be memory leak or something...

thanks for reporting back on that you jus saved me a download.

been doubting my pc but no, this is a bug isn't it.

I have identical issue - let me know if you find a solution. I am on a RTX 3070

[p1xel]

Today for some reason I been able to reproduce this bug only by changing ingame settings, particularly shadows.
After some more messing arround I've noticed this 2 lines in dlss mod log:

[03.10.2023 00-36-25][streamline][warn]commoninterface.cpp:522[slEvaluateFeatureInternal] Exceeded VRAM budget, various performance issues including stuttering can be expected
[03.10.2023 00-36-26][streamline][warn]generic.cpp:655[manageVRAM] Allocated 6521.14MB which is more than allowed by the VRAM budget 6399.69MB

They appeared roughly then fps drops. "bIgnoreGPUBudget" setting just bump allocated size to 10GB.
Looks like changing settings from console not having any effect for some, will continue testing.

Upd: nope, last option for me is try to run pix debugger, but that's an andventure for another time.
Upd2: another thing I've noticed - textures become blurry then bug occurs. I belive, it's because there not enought vram to hold hires textures. Someone somethere forget to free some framebuffers...

[PolWynlind]

so should we not use IgnoreGPUBudget?

[p1xel]

Originally posted by PolWynlind:

so should we not use IgnoreGPUBudget?

I've tested it and some more textures options a bit more. They either not have any efffect or CDT or not loading textures at all.
Disabling dinamic resolution, scaling to 100% and disabling overlays (discord, steam, nvidia) helped a lot. Also, restart the game after any settings change.
Also killing processes which use gpu memory (browser, messagers, anything with fancy ui) probably helped, but could be a placebo...

[lordFrith]

Originally posted by PolWynlind:

so should we not use IgnoreGPUBudget?

by all means try it but it made no difference for me, let us know if it works for you...

Originally posted by p1xel:

Disabling dinamic resolution, scaling to 100%

this sort of worked in that it set my FPS to a very reliable 10 fps lol, i am at near the minimum specs for this game :( but still over them.

i have mostly mitigated this problem by using only the optional part of this mod:
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/3579?tab=files

The optional files are for optimisation for people using HDD. although im running on SSD this seems to mostly remove this issue for me. the fact that it does still sometimes occur would suggest there is a bug or memory leak but it has at least made the game playable for me again.

tbh with the nice beefy rigs you folks have you really shouldn't need this mod at all but it might be worth testing and seeing if it can shed any light on the issue

[EzRyder]

i think its more likely your just running out of vram (you have half of what they ask for)
dont get me wrong, its great you can play on that system but that 1650ti just may not up to the task
ive played for multiple hours and have not seen any noticeable increase in memory usage, but i havent tried lately so i will check on this again
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4195vs3842/GeForce-GTX-1650-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-1070-Ti

[lordFrith]

Originally posted by EzRyder:

i think its more likely your just running out of vram (you have half of what they ask for)
dont get me wrong, its great you can play on that system but that 1650ti just may not up to the task
ive played for multiple hours and have not seen any noticeable increase in memory usage, but i havent tried lately so i will check on this again
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/4195vs3842/GeForce-GTX-1650-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-1070-Ti

tbh that was my first thought too, and i have looked into various optimisations for exactly this reason

however people are posting with exactly the same experiance and they running 3070's or better (theres a few posts about this on reddit too), which have at least 8GB vram. So there is obviously some other issue thats even effecting systems well over the minimum spec

so i think its good to continue to highlight this as a bug, people with decent cards may get a fix and i might get some improvement if this bug is isolated and fixed.