Very lazy game

[Braven]

Starfield is the first Bethesda game I've disliked. They got too lazy with this one and it really shows. Story was not the best in Fallout 4 too, but at least the gameplay loop was there. However, in Starfield it is bland all around.

What are your thoughts? If you liked the game what made you like it the most?

[Ankua]

Originally posted by rubyismycat:

Seriously do go and play spacebourne 2 its a much better game in every way except for the one part of this game i really liked the shipbuilding

They should hire the one man team to fix their game.
Ship building should be more like Automation where you design it not place lego blocks together.

[Exist]

I equate Starfield with Fallout 4. They're both okay to good but not great like Skyrim, Oblivion, and Fallout 3. For sure parts of Starfield are lazy but overall its still fun and I'm enjoying it. You're not wrong OP but people like me will still be playing Starfield down the line because Bethesda's games have a sense of freedom that you can't really find besides in CdProjektRed or Rockstar games, and Bethesda's are still the best of those 3 IMO

[Nekronos]

Originally posted by Chip Patton:

Originally posted by Nekronos:

it's called DEI. they DEI'd the game.

If you would actually play the game and beat it, you would realize how silly you sound right now. No DEI-controlled story is going to even mention God or have a story entirely about God. This entire story is about the "Creator of the Universe" allowing you to correct other universes.

I'll just leave it right there.

♥♥♥♥♥♥ take. are you implying that only white males believe in God?

[Goof]

Originally posted by ZgraphZ:

All these people complaining about a mechanic that like 3 other games have are just annoying af. stop crying. at this point your just mad because it isnt tailored to your entitled ass. "i cant fly my ship around on the surface"... who cares. obviously the devs dont because thats not what they wanted and tbh as someone who played Eve, No man sky, Star Citizen, SpaceBourne 2. i do not miss that crap at all. it makes the game more enjoyable. if you want to fly around in a buggy mess that actually have decent graphics and not some cartoonish crap like no man sky. go play Star Citizen or SpaceBourne2.

i agree, i don't understand the comparison to nms at all. what people complain about starfield, I complain about those same things in nms

- space travel is trivial and boring. flipping through my phone because my ship is "traveling" to a planet for 1-3 minutes of NOTHING
- the same repeated space stations/derelicts/outposts
- planetary exploration is repetitive. 60 seconds on a planet and you've seen everything it has to offer. I can walk for 5 minutes and not find anything interesting or new
- paper thin story
- repetitive end game
- interactions with npcs are lifeless
- repetitive anomalies that have nothing to do with anything
- tedious space combat
- base building is irrelevant

[Nekronos]

Originally posted by Goof:

Originally posted by ZgraphZ:

All these people complaining about a mechanic that like 3 other games have are just annoying af. stop crying. at this point your just mad because it isnt tailored to your entitled ass. "i cant fly my ship around on the surface"... who cares. obviously the devs dont because thats not what they wanted and tbh as someone who played Eve, No man sky, Star Citizen, SpaceBourne 2. i do not miss that crap at all. it makes the game more enjoyable. if you want to fly around in a buggy mess that actually have decent graphics and not some cartoonish crap like no man sky. go play Star Citizen or SpaceBourne2.

i agree, i don't understand the comparison to nms at all. what people complain about starfield, I complain about those same things in nms

- space travel is trivial and boring. flipping through my phone because my ship is "traveling" to a planet for 1-3 minutes of NOTHING
- the same repeated space stations/derelicts/outposts
- planetary exploration is repetitive. 60 seconds on a planet and you've seen everything it has to offer. I can walk for 5 minutes and not find anything interesting or new
- paper thin story
- repetitive end game
- interactions with npcs are lifeless
- repetitive anomalies that have nothing to do with anything
- tedious space combat
- base building is irrelevant

damn bro 100% this. the game is just awful from every angle. it was made by untalented people. staffing by DEI strikes again.

[Scyris]

Its very lazy, and it just oozes this thoughout the game like you can tell they half-assed it alot of the time with alot of things. I mean we got perks namely science that feel like they were made for another game, the exploration sucks, the combat is low-mid at best, the main story is friggin aweful. They really need to fire the idiot who keeps writing this garbage because whoever it is sucks ass at writing a decent plot. Ng+ IMO shouldn't even exist, imo the only reason it does is so you can reverse what happens in A High Price to Pay, there is no reason why you couldn't level up the powers to level 10 in game, maybe by just using them? Every x uses they upgrade. Me? I'm gonna go into ng, and once I get to the end a 2nd time just gonna bat file all the powers to level 10, as no point to repeating the same crap 8 more times just to max out the powers. Having to go thru the horribly bad main story once was bad enough. Yes I am aware you can skip it, but i plan to go thru it in ng+ just to prevent anyone from dying. I really worry for TES6 if this is the best 5-7 years of dev can get from Bethesda.

[Spawn of Apathy]

I don't think Starfield is any worse than any other Bethesda game. The issue is the year in which Starfield has come out and how much or where Bethesda has iterated and improved. FO4 came out in 2015. The bar and expectations for games have risen significantly.

Best single line review I've read for Starfield is "Starfield feels like a good remaster of a decade old game." I didn't write it, but I agree completely. You don't remaster bad games, but in many remasters you don't often do much but update the visuals.

As far as whether the game clicks for you or not, I've always said that Bethesda games can be hit more miss depending on the theme. I don't really care for Fallout's aesthetics and mechanics. I did really love Oblivion and enjoyed Skyrim. I am liking Starfield more than Skyrim, but it has yet to be seen if I end up liking this more than Oblivion, but I'm liking to sink more hours into it. But the theme clicks with me. It's not a more fleshed out world. The world building isn't better. The shooting feels better than melee combat in Elder Scrolls games, but I also like the space theme and all the different environments.

Starfield has at least been Bethesda's most polished game at release. Not a very high bar, but it's worth noting, I guess.

[Chip Patton]

Originally posted by Nekronos:

Originally posted by Chip Patton:

If you would actually play the game and beat it, you would realize how silly you sound right now. No DEI-controlled story is going to even mention God or have a story entirely about God. This entire story is about the "Creator of the Universe" allowing you to correct other universes.

I'll just leave it right there.

♥♥♥♥♥♥ take. are you implying that only white males believe in God?

Sure, that's exactly what that said /sarcasm.

Seriously? Taking a stance on "God" isn't that "inclusive" to atheists, now is it?

[lizzo (banned 58 times)]

Originally posted by Scyris:

Its very lazy, and it just oozes this thoughout the game like you can tell they half-assed it alot of the time with alot of things. I mean we got perks namely science that feel like they were made for another game, the exploration sucks, the combat is low-mid at best, the main story is friggin aweful. They really need to fire the idiot who keeps writing this garbage because whoever it is sucks ass at writing a decent plot. Ng+ IMO shouldn't even exist, imo the only reason it does is so you can reverse what happens in A High Price to Pay, there is no reason why you couldn't level up the powers to level 10 in game, maybe by just using them? Every x uses they upgrade. Me? I'm gonna go into ng, and once I get to the end a 2nd time just gonna bat file all the powers to level 10, as no point to repeating the same crap 8 more times just to max out the powers. Having to go thru the horribly bad main story once was bad enough. Yes I am aware you can skip it, but i plan to go thru it in ng+ just to prevent anyone from dying. I really worry for TES6 if this is the best 5-7 years of dev can get from Bethesda.

very based

[Ironside]

Originally posted by Braven:

Starfield is the first Bethesda game I've disliked. They got too lazy with this one and it really shows. Story was not the best in Fallout 4 too, but at least the gameplay loop was there. However, in Starfield it is bland all around.

What are your thoughts? If you liked the game what made you like it the most?

Fallout 4 was unplayable; you're crazy.

[Braven]

Originally posted by Ironside:

Originally posted by Braven:

Starfield is the first Bethesda game I've disliked. They got too lazy with this one and it really shows. Story was not the best in Fallout 4 too, but at least the gameplay loop was there. However, in Starfield it is bland all around.

What are your thoughts? If you liked the game what made you like it the most?

Fallout 4 was unplayable; you're crazy.

Fallout 4 was the game that brought the beautiful gunplay and settlement building system, building your own village/town. It was a step forward in gameplay all around, however step back in writing and story, I'll agree to that.

[TheCr33pur]

Well i been trying out Elite Dangerous for now, plus that Odyssey expansion too. I gotta say it a pretty good game if you want something realistic, both ground and space roles. So you dont have to fast travel or being lazy to do it.

Too bad this game ended up like this, i wont touch it again and just wasted almost seven-five bucks on this crap! Still no refund, dunno how many times i tried to get a refund, they dont care, just that simple.

[Goof]

Originally posted by TheCr33pur:

Well i been trying out Elite Dangerous for now, plus that Odyssey expansion too. I gotta say it a pretty good game if you want something realistic, both ground and space roles. So you dont have to fast travel or being lazy to do it.

Too bad this game ended up like this, i wont touch it again and just wasted almost seven-five bucks on this crap! Still no refund, dunno how many times i tried to get a refund, they dont care, just that simple.

i thank god the game ended up like this. super fun

[velasquezt43]

I don't think it was laziness so much as it was in Development Hell for what, seven years? It got delayed for two years by COVID. Then they delayed release for another year. I have a feeling that at the end, Todd and Bethesda where just sick of it and wanted it out the door.

Just release the damn thing, get it out the door and off their plates. I wouldn't be surprised if they were just prepared to write it off, success or no.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by Sylph:

if it has a 70$ tag it's probably trash. if it's overhyped it's probably trash. this game fit both and i still bought into it. yeah game is lazy af but if you want a tip i suggest not playing western AAA anymore

I generally stay away from AAA devs period as most of the stuff they puke out is crap covered in glitter, you can make it as pretty as you want but a crap game is still crap no matter how much glitter you put on it. I feel so sorry for people who shelled out 70+ US for this game I really do.