After today's "patch", seriously doubting Bethesda has any intention to fix anything but critical bugs

[FleaBytes]

Hugely popular game. Sold a zillion copies. So much low-hanging fruit to patch, not just wish-list kind of stuff, but basic obvious game play and graphics bugs. The kind of stuff that would jump out at you after ten minutes of play testing.

Only two very minor patches, both bug fixes, and both focused on just getting the game to run: business-critical bugs. And now people reporting new game crashing behavior in the patch.

The few gameplay fixes in the patches look more like accidents, like things fixed as a result of repairing something else.

Even cyberpunk and no man's sky had pushed gameplay fixes by now, and bg3 has already gone beyond bug fixes and is addressing popular requests. This launch seems more in line with Amazon's new world, paying lip service and then ignoring. I would hate for this game to fall into the second camp.

Anyone else feeling worn-down?

[Kriya Takagi]

Originally posted by FleaBytes:

Hugely popular game. Sold a zillion copies. So much low-hanging fruit to patch, not just wish-list kind of stuff, but basic obvious game play and graphics bugs. The kind of stuff that would jump out at you after ten minutes of play testing.

Only two very minor patches, both bug fixes, and both focused on just getting the game to run: business-critical bugs. And now people reporting new game crashing behavior in the patch.

The few gameplay fixes in the patches look more like accidents, like things fixed as a result of repairing something else.

Even cyberpunk and no man's sky had pushed gameplay fixes by now, and bg3 has already gone beyond bug fixes and is addressing popular requests. This launch seems more in line with Amazon's new world, paying lip service and then ignoring. I would hate for this game to fall into the second camp.

Anyone else feeling worn-down?

Um you sure you were playing nms at release cuz people complained about hello games' patches took way to long as well as the fixes not being thing that were for major issues

[AoD_lexandro]

This game is on Xbox. THat means at least a fortnight for a small patch. 1 week to code, 1 week for MS to verify it. Bethesda SOP is one major patch a month.

Someone is obviously ill informed about game development.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

they don't even have intentions of fixing critical bugs, I've been soft locked on the main story since September 10. There's been 2 patches since then, one specifically targeted soft locks on side quests. Here I am, still unable to play a game I spent $90 for. Almost a month after it released early, and yes the bug had been reported to bethesda support multiple times before the games official release date.

[Cheyenesku]

You just wrote they they pushed two bug fix patches, and yet you complain there are no bugfixes...

[Cheyenesku]

And first NMS patch that started fixing things came a year after release.

[YeenBean]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

This game is on Xbox. THat means at least a fortnight for a small patch. 1 week to code, 1 week for MS to verify it. Bethesda SOP is one major patch a month.

Someone is obviously ill informed about game development.

"It's fine because it's the status quo."

[AbsynthMinded]

Originally posted by Koyuta kota:

Um you sure you were playing nms at release cuz people complained about hello games' patches took way to long as well as the fixes not being thing that were for major issues

NMS is not a fair comparison. Only made it as far as it has due to fanatics, and it has literally the most minimal of 'story' spread so thin as to appear transparent. Also Indy vs MegaCorp developers.

[AoD_lexandro]

Originally posted by YeenBean:

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

This game is on Xbox. THat means at least a fortnight for a small patch. 1 week to code, 1 week for MS to verify it. Bethesda SOP is one major patch a month.

Someone is obviously ill informed about game development.

"It's fine because it's the status quo."

Its fine because I understand how games are actually coded. And do not expect the impossible.

[RasaNova]

Originally posted by YeenBean:

(Free copies through GamePass aren't sales)

Larian fixed over a THOUSAND bugs a week after launch. Bethesda fixed ONE PERCENT of that in this patch. And it took them three times as long. Four, if you count the early access.

"You get what you ♥♥♥♥♥♥' deserve!"

Um, that might not be the brag you think it is...

[Galenmereth]

As a senior developer / tech lead, reading this hurts my head. I'm not making excuses, but creating patches for large complex software projects -- like games of this scale -- isn't something you can just churn out. Hence they release smaller, safer bug fixes while working on any potential larger issues in the background. Changes that require far more QA time.

And Cyberpunk and No Man's Sky did not have any major patches only 2.5 weeks after release. And if Larian did, it's because they already had that patch in the pipeline before release, and didn't get to patch it in time ;) Maybe they should've postponed the launch.

[Kenway]

dude... let em breath a bit, give them time. They probably had been through to a crunch, hard times trying to work with that engine that im suprised that still work even if is a new version or something.
The devs did a great job so far, (not perfect, there is not perfect game) they will fix almost everything eventually they even said some features are on the way but these things take time.

[Risenzealot]

I don't claim to be a game dev, or software developer of any sort so my opinion isn't really educated by any means. With that said, I do find the lack of basic features not yet implemented as a scathing negative mark for Bethesda for one reason.

No FOV slider, no brightness slider, and no DLSS support has been patched in yet. Yeah, I don't know how difficult that is BUT I do know that single individual modders were able to mod these into the game in less then a day. They were up on Nexus within an hour of the early access launch.

Now, if a single modder can add this stuff I can't think of any legit reason a AAA studio with the backing of Microsoft isn't able to do it yet. To me it shows they either don't care, or they are incredibly inadequate. Take your pic.

[YeenBean]

Originally posted by RasaNova:

Originally posted by YeenBean:

(Free copies through GamePass aren't sales)

Larian fixed over a THOUSAND bugs a week after launch. Bethesda fixed ONE PERCENT of that in this patch. And it took them three times as long. Four, if you count the early access.

"You get what you ♥♥♥♥♥♥' deserve!"

Um, that might not be the brag you think it is...

Please. Enlighten us with your wisdom.

[AoD_lexandro]

Originally posted by Risenzealot:

I don't claim to be a game dev, or software developer of any sort so my opinion isn't really educated by any means. With that said, I do find the lack of basic features not yet implemented as a scathing negative mark for Bethesda for one reason.

No FOV slider, no brightness slider, and no DLSS support has been patched in yet. Yeah, I don't know how difficult that is BUT I do know that single individual modders were able to mod these into the game in less then a day. They were up on Nexus within an hour of the early access launch.

Now, if a single modder can add this stuff I can't think of any legit reason a AAA studio with the backing of Microsoft isn't able to do it yet. To me it shows they either don't care, or they are incredibly inadequate. Take your pic.

Modders do not have to account for consoles. Nor do they have an contractual obligations, nor do they have to QA any of their content.

Comparing modders to companies is fool hardy. Us modders have it easy. Bethesda is the one that had to make the game first, before we could get near it to mod.

[Powercrank]

That's what you get when you give money to Todd "people will buy anything" Howard