Landing ships inaccessible - request for help

[Johnno]

I've encountered an issue where ships landing nearby don't open their bays, thus making them inaccessible. At the same time.. spoiler:
Starborn ships ARE accessible and can be commandeered, and deposit no ground units.

I have reached out to Bethesda support and am being given a run-around of trying various things (restart game, verify files, wait 72h UT, travel to other locations before returning), none of which have helped. i've attempted everything imaginable and am reaching out to YOU, the community, for help.

Anyone have any ideas here? Issue is simple, NPC ships that land near me don't open their bays, so I can't access them to board (and Starborn ships do, which shouldn't be possible).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

[japp_02]

Originally posted by Johnno:

Originally posted by japp_02:

Inaccessible has to mean something, I don't know why you guys see an issue here. (And this has nothing to do with the bug that there is no one in ships)

I think you've misunderstood, and jumped to a conclusion based purely on the word "inaccessible". Please read the opening post, I explain in detail what's going on.

The ships don't say "inaccessible" anywhere, it's just the word I chose to describe the situation. As in can't access, can't enter, can't walk up the dang ramp because it's not open.

Yes, I bet there is something more than just the hatch message which says 'inaccessible'. But in all these cases the ramp is open, you just cannot enter the ship with this message.
And you mean something else? I need to go through the posts again.
SF Discord and its bug section may have exact infos on this, I will check it out too.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Johnno:

The ships don't say "inaccessible" anywhere, it's just the word I chose to describe the situation. As in can't access, can't enter, can't walk up the dang ramp because it's not open.

They are labeled "inaccessible" when you are not supposed to be able to.

For example, when starting a new game the pirate ship that lands to attack the mining camp is labeled "inaccessible."

There is some civilians outposts with pirate ships already landed, those are labeled "inaccessible."

Starborn ships last I seen them on the ground were labeled "inaccessible."

I have also seen random ships land and be labeled "inaccessible" for whatever reason.

he problem is you got a crapload of people dumping their boarding bug into the same topic. No specifics to their problems, no mention of whether or not they use mods, whether or not they running above 60 fps, and so on.

If someone runs across the problem and you want help, go create your own topic and be as specific as possible, "me too" does not tell us anything.

[japp_02]

Accessible ships are those which you see flying in the sky and landing unless they are part of a mission which you have underway. I have only seen once that nobody was onboard when I boarded a ship but that was for some reasons:
A) the ship landed on the pad of a random structure which had pirates around.
B) The boarded ship crew was ouside when I arrived and went in a combat with the pirates of the structure.

I sneaked unnoticed in that ship, that's important because the ship may takeoff if you kill crew outside, you cannot be sure nobody is inside.
All this scenario is far from being a bug, it's all logical gameplay but things could play-out totally different.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Johnno:

I've encountered an issue where ships landing nearby don't open their bays, thus making them inaccessible. At the same time.. spoiler:
Starborn ships ARE accessible and can be commandeered, and deposit no ground units.

I have reached out to Bethesda support and am being given a run-around of trying various things (restart game, verify files, wait 72h UT, travel to other locations before returning), none of which have helped. i've attempted everything imaginable and am reaching out to YOU, the community, for help.

Anyone have any ideas here? Issue is simple, NPC ships that land near me don't open their bays, so I can't access them to board (and Starborn ships do, which shouldn't be possible).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Never seen an accessible starborn ship.

[No_SuRReNDeR001*]

Originally posted by Johnno:

Originally posted by Langkard:

That is exactly the opposite of what should be happening!

Indeed! And this isn't what it used to be. I started out being able to board NPC ships (how I got my first ship other than the starter one).

Some questions so that maybe someone can help:

What mods, if any, are you using?

not using any mods. Have not downloaded any, not installed any, not even looked sideways at any.

Has it always been like this or did it recently start?

This started recently. NPC ships used to behave as expected, they landed, deployed some troops (hostile or not), and had their landing bays open.

Only recently do the ships land (no matter which ship) and keep their landing bays closed, and deposit no troops.

Those answer might give someone an idea for how to help. I'm at a loss. Sorry.

Thank you nonetheless for your response.

I am having the absolute exact same problem, and I am not a mod person. I haven’t mod in the game at all.

[No_SuRReNDeR001*]

Originally posted by BeerdedPhantom:

I've had the same issue in my first playthrough. I spent a couple of days trying old saves to see if I could figure out where things went wrong, but I couldn't identify anything likely to be the cause. I've started a new game in the meantime. I also reported it to Bethesda support and after the same run-around you got they requested that I submit some videos, so I did, along with my actual affected save. I was told my report was being elevated and I'd be contacted, but that hasn't happened yet, so I can only hope that they're working on it for the next patch, whenever that comes.

With NO mods installed at any time, the detailed symptoms I was seeing are:
1. Ships land on planets and never open their landing bays - as in, the physical model of the bay that opens to reveal and allow access to the interactable hatch, not that interactable hatch itself. This seems to affect all enemy ships, and some but not all friendly ships are also affected. This includes ships which are supposed to land and let out a bunch of enemies as part of certain quests, which breaks those quests.
2. Hostile ships you dock with in space are empty of all crew. There are no NPC's inside, no corpses of NPC's, and the captain's lockers are empty. These ships may or may not resume attacking you after you undock.
3. The "activity" that should appear telling you to kill the crew or leave the ship, then take over or leave the ship does not appear anymore when docking, and there is no instance of that activity showing in the activity log.
4. Starborn ships have no Starborn in or around them after landing, and ARE accessible to the player when they should not be. You can enter them, fly them, and add them to your fleet despite not progressing to the point in the game where you would be able to.

Yes exactly I have 2 stab ships in my inv

[beagle]

Almost level 100 and have never been able to access a Starborn ship.

[Blue Arrow]

After playing more I am sure I am having the problem that some mentioned where ships land and can't be accessed when they should be. The same things OP and BeerdedPhantom mentioned.

Hostile NPC ships never lower their ramps and can't be boarded. They also never spawn enemy NPC patrols. Starborn ships also can now be boarded and stolen. Friendly NPC ships mostly seem unaffected.

For me I think it started around the patch a few weeks back. I was hoping the patch yesterday would help, but it didn't seem to fix this bug.

[nzguzzi]

I am level 90 , with over 300 hours.
I farm these ships every day.

Those are dialogue bound ships.
* All landed Freestar ships ( smuggler dialogue )
* All landed bounty hunter ships ( wanted dialogue for wanted trait )
* Any landed UC ship repair ( pointless dialogue)

*Landed LIST ships can be taken
*Landed UC Reef, and 99% of non UC repair dialogue ships can be taken
( Some of my best ships I ever got were landed UC ships like Reef III and Civishuttle III )
* The Civishuttle III is the UC Abys Trekker
*Landed crimson can be taken

But in space, they can all be captured (except LIST ), boarded and taken.
Space is the only way to cap the Freestar Renegade ~ Vigilant spawn 1 or 3 ( best looking ship in game )

[Vertbird]

in my case i happend at quest ships.
they do not unload thier trops for quest.

Before i go to the quest step i landed beside quest stage on planet, and often a random Starborne ship lands nearby.
I do not go to it, and go away and scan the planet fauna and flora.
After this i go to the quest side on this planet.
then the bug appears.

it hits me in this Quest with these Names (in my case in german):
* Herzensangelegenheiten
* Feuerprobe

in my view, this is a clear BUG

[DarthDerpMachine]

Originally posted by Warablo:

I am pretty certain whatever change they made, made Starborn ships accessible and it screwed up a lot of things. Any hostile ship you dock with in space will now to be empty, same with the captains lockers. NPC ships being locked out and empty, I think the trigger is a certain Starborn ship or any Starborn ship landing near you. You don't even need to get near or go in it and will screw up your save for the rest the play through. So basically landing outside of a city will bork your game if a Starborn lands.

Ok, well, I won't be going to meet the old chums at that place until it's fixed.
Thanks for the save.

[Puppy_love]

Originally posted by Fanto:

This bug occurs when a corrupted starborn ship (in my case, a V model) lands on the surface of a planet. From then on, all hostile ships will no longer see their crew when you board them, and their docking bays will no longer function when they land on a planet. This bug seems to occur over time, and nothing can be done about it. Capturing ships seems to speed up the process, but it's bound to happen sooner or later. It's as if there's a maximum number of boardings to be made before the bug arrives. Once the game has been corrupted by this bug, the only way to get rid of it is with an NG+, but it's likely to come back with time in this new game...

Awesome.
I have confirmed that it is reliably reproduced by Starborn ship V in my environment.
Thank you.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Puppy_love:

Originally posted by Fanto:

This bug occurs when a corrupted starborn ship (in my case, a V model) lands on the surface of a planet. From then on, all hostile ships will no longer see their crew when you board them, and their docking bays will no longer function when they land on a planet. This bug seems to occur over time, and nothing can be done about it. Capturing ships seems to speed up the process, but it's bound to happen sooner or later. It's as if there's a maximum number of boardings to be made before the bug arrives. Once the game has been corrupted by this bug, the only way to get rid of it is with an NG+, but it's likely to come back with time in this new game...

Awesome.
I have confirmed that it is reliably reproduced by Starborn ship V in my environment.
Thank you.

Is it caused by the Starborn ship just being there or if the player boards it?

Is there other versions of a corrupt ship from other factions? Like Claymore IV or something. It is a good probability some ships form other factions can have the same effect,

I would imagine some of these people are going to come back and say they aint met a starborn ship yet. Which does not disprove what you found, but shows there may be similar causes.

My last question would be if you see the Starborn V ship can you roll back to an earlier save and avoid ti as RNGJesus chooses a different ship?

[japp_02]

This thread has become totally useless, people are mixing up possible bugs with game mechanics that they don't understand and think they are bugs (which are not). Better make a new thread.

[Kool Kevin]

Originally posted by Warablo:

I am pretty certain whatever change they made, made Starborn ships accessible and it screwed up a lot of things. Any hostile ship you dock with in space will now to be empty, same with the captains lockers. NPC ships being locked out and empty, I think the trigger is a certain Starborn ship or any Starborn ship landing near you. You don't even need to get near or go in it and will screw up your save for the rest the play through. So basically landing outside of a city will bork your game if a Starborn lands.

Not in my play through - Just stole an Ecliptic ship yesterday, They were even firing at me (I did not fire at them) and I have Star born ships land in my AO all the time. (I do leave the area if I am hunting for ships as this does seem to block the landing of other vessels, maybe because they took the pad "area" away.
But I still have access, locked or unlocked.
Someone one YT has a solution for the un-accessible problem if it started after you modified or added parts to your ship right before it started happening. Go to NA and move and then reattach the part (maybe any part?) and then save and restart that save.
Or find and watch the YT video and comeback here with the correct details.
Hope this helps.