Vanguard uniform?

[Malnaur]

Why does it appear there is no Vanguard uniform to get? The Rangers give you one, SysDef gives you one, Vanguard not. Console give is not a good answer.

[Tunnfisk]

Originally posted by Malnaur:

Console give is not a good answer.

Console.

[Ihateeverybody]

Because Vanguard are Citizen Soldiers, People with a Letter of Something or other, I forget the word (Marguis, or something). You are a Privateer. You are NOT in any way, shape or form acting in the name of the state (though you totally are). If those guy's we hate, suffer at your hands to our benefit. Well thats just life man.

[Akkarin]

My consoleations.

[Darth Zweig]

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Because Vanguard are Citizen Soldiers, People with a Letter of Something or other, I forget the word (Marguis, or something). You are a Privateer. You are NOT in any way, shape or form acting in the name of the state (though you totally are). If those guy's we hate, suffer at your hands to our benefit. Well thats just life man.

Your point in invalidated by the fact that the uniform does exist in the game. It looks near identical to the naval uniform, but with an orange shoulder.

Letter of Marque, btw.

Edit: Damn I need to go to bed.

[Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}]

they give you a vanguard space suit

plus if you do crimson fleet path you get a uc navy outfit

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by Zweig_Arvel:

Originally posted by Ihateeverybody:

Because Vanguard are Citizen Soldiers, People with a Letter of Something or other, I forget the word (Marguis, or something). You are a Privateer. You are NOT in any way, shape or form acting in the name of the state (though you totally are). If those guy's we hate, suffer at your hands to our benefit. Well thats just life man.

Your point in invalidated by the fact that the uniform does exist in the game. It looks near identical to the naval uniform, but with an orange shoulder.

Letter of Marque, btw.

Edit: Damn I need to go to bed.

Yeah you do need tp go to bed. Nothing you said invalidated his point. The existence of the uniform as item doesn't mean you arent a privateer or that privateers should get uniforms.

[Darth Zweig]

Originally posted by Ishan451:

Originally posted by Zweig_Arvel:

Your point in invalidated by the fact that the uniform does exist in the game. It looks near identical to the naval uniform, but with an orange shoulder.

Letter of Marque, btw.

Edit: Damn I need to go to bed.

Yeah you do need tp go to bed. Nothing you said invalidated his point. The existence of the uniform as item doesn't mean you arent a privateer or that privateers should get uniforms.

The uniforms are in the game and worn by NPCs Tutuala or however you say his name being one, and some random vanguard dude who landed on a planet I was exploring had one in his ship, iirc. I have said uniform and I'm pretty sure that's where I got it.

I also took his explanation as the reasoning why you as the player don't receive said uniform, which doesn't make sense as there are members of the vanguard with the uniform.

I disagree with the vaguard's status as privateers in comparison to the privateers during the age of sail anyway as the vanguard literally receive uniforms (the space suits), access to "cutting edge" military equipment (the ship modules), and are not being encouraged to harass members of the FSC, in fact they really want you walking a fine political line in your dealings with the other powers.

EDIT: They're closer to the air national guard than true privateers, IMO

[~ Fabulous ~]

Because the Vanguard are mostly 2nd class citizen

[maeharaprojekt]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

Because the Vanguard are mostly 2nd class citizen

The UC does not allow just anyone to become a Citizen. As detailed in the Vanguard museum, even a child born to UC Citizens is not a Citizen from birth. As far as I have been able to figure out, the UC-born only become Citizens when they join MAST or do something of great benefit to the UC.

If you are from a different star nation or an independent world, you can attempt to join the Vanguard and after you complete your first tour of duty, you will get your citizenship. The UC-born can also opt for Vanguard service if they want more wiggle-room and freedom-of-action.

[Malnaur]

My character is a UC citizen First Class, no less. The next time I spoke to Tuala, he should have not only congratulated me (I believe he did), he should have handed me a proper uniform. I am also referred to as Vanguard in various random encounters.

[madpraxis]

...privateer?

Dudebros, you are literally citizen militia.
That is it. Performing a service to either make yourself feel good about yourself, or to earn citizenship. Most likely the latter, from how they speak of it in game.... Or a national that is working on citizenship and doesn't like the idea of sitting in an office for 15-20 years drudging away to get citizenship...

Closest parallel that y'all could get would be French Foreign Legion. Soldiers, working for a government, that aren't citizens, who can eventually down the road earn citizenship. Not letter of marques, or privateers, or broke ass batman.... Held to the same measure and standards that a citizen (soldier) would be, expected to represent the government in an equitable way, and willing to step up and do the job that needs to be done.

Plus you get an outfit to wear, so I'm not sure what OP is talking about.
Though Rangers are cooler, you get a shiny badge on top of it too.

[maeharaprojekt]

Originally posted by Malnaur:

My character is a UC citizen First Class, no less. The next time I spoke to Tuala, he should have not only congratulated me (I believe he did), he should have handed me a proper uniform. I am also referred to as Vanguard in various random encounters.

If you didn't get the Vanguard helmet, "backpack" and the spacesuit after completing the flight sim and reporting to Lieutenant Tuala, then you've experienced a bug.

It is strongly recommended by Bethesda to join their official Discord server and report bugs on #starfield-bugs.

[Malnaur]

I got those. I want a plain old uniform.

[GaymerBear77]

"The UC Vanguard is a department of the United Colonies and an official branch of the UC Navy. The Vanguard is a civilian navy that was founded in 2315 in response to the Freestar Collective's use of civilian ships during the Colony Wars"

Copied and pasted from the website...Vanguard is military and is part of the Governement, there IS a uniform as well as a spacesuit and vanguard type ship weapons once the UC questline gets far enough.

"player.additem 003CAF7E 1" - Uniform

"player.additem 00248C0F 1" Spacesuit

"player.additem 00248C0E 1" Helmet

"player.additem 003E3D4F 1" Jet pack

[Malnaur]

Sigh. Console add is a HACK. I want them to fix the ^*&^% game to make sense. If I'm in the Vanguard with a suit and everything, WHY DON"T I GET A UNIFORM?!?!?! The other groups give you a uniform when you qualify. The Vanguard uniform very much exists. Makes zero sense.