Legendary Armor is too strong.

[Smashpaw]

Im level 67. Picked up the Mantis armor around 10-15. I got pretty decent rolls on the bonuses, and I am still using it. I get legendaries are supposed to be some of the best, but using the same set for almost 60 levels feels broken. I have found a decent amount of gear that has much higher defense stats (PHY, EM, etc) but with the legendary bonuses they dont even compare.

Weapons on the other hand feel much more balanced. A legendary weapon found at level 10 can be outclassed by a basic white weapon pretty quickly.

[Cutlass Jack]

Honestly the free Mark1 suit you pick up in the lodge is still better than most of the armor I've found since and that's not even legendary.

I don't care how good the Mantis armor is statwise though. I'll never be caught wearing that awful onesie.

[EzRyder]

the legendary (rare etc) in guns only refers to the special effects
guns have 4 tiers or levels of quality base, refined, calibrated and advanced
so you can easily have a Legendary gun with low stats compared to a normal Advanced Beowolf for example (then guns with a third prefix is about the mods installed)

ive no idea about armor yet, i only just got that all unlocked and havent actually gone thru the modding yet

[Prowl]

I spent most of my run with modded white suits and guns. My jet pack was the only legendary that lasted any decent amount of time.

[Smashpaw]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

Honestly the free Mark1 suit you pick up in the lodge is still better than most of the armor I've found since and that's not even legendary.

I don't care how good the Mantis armor is statwise though. I'll never be caught wearing that awful onesie.

I agree, its hideous lol. I really like the Antixeno armor. Honestly im debating using console commands to put the same stats on the antixeno armor set as i have on the mantis armor set. Like cheating, but not cheating lol. Stats would be the same, i just wouldnt have to look at this ♥♥♥♥ anymore lol.

[Tommy Wiseau]

my best armor is the chameleon armor i found after killing the first boss lol. I just stealth em out, idk if its a scripted drop or i just got really lucky.

[Smashpaw]

I think part of the issue is, even on Very hard, the ground combat isnt too challenging. So that extra dmg reduction just isnt outweighed by the extra 40 carrying capacity, the 25% less Oxygen usage is a massive bonus, 25% less resource weight, or 50% less gun weight.

[Chroniver]

Itemization on armor is pretty aweful.

I picked up Mark 1 armor in the first hour and it is both one of the strongest and best looking sets out there.

Nothing I found in 70 hours of play can match it.

You can luckily add whatever modifiers you want with it using the console.

Almost all armor designs are far too bulky or just goofy for my liking.
It's one aspect where they their Nasapunk aesthetic failed imo.

The starborn sets are an exception but then they made the baffling decision to not separate the pieces on those.

Meaning it's pretty pointless to use when compared to regular amor with top mods.

Can't wait for mods on that.

[roach112683]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

Honestly the free Mark1 suit you pick up in the lodge is still better than most of the armor I've found since and that's not even legendary.

I don't care how good the Mantis armor is statwise though. I'll never be caught wearing that awful onesie.

Can you mod perks into the Spacesuits though?
I didn't think so. That's why Legendary are better because you CAN upgrade the protection via the workbench.

[The Hat]

heh I've never used legendary suits, somehow I got a lucky drop on a crimson fleet mission for a white mark 1 suit. Which I've worn level 6 ish to level 31, and only now is armor catching up. It was after looting a medical transport, which I would never have done if my persuasion attempt had actually worked.

[Steal]

Guys there is way better armor even than the legendary set you get when you go to game plus.....the Starborn Armor set. I thought it was awesome and I have replaced it with all normal white basic gear, my defenses combined are all over 400 now and each has maxed mods on them making it even stronger. Honestly I havent seen a legendary set even comparable in stats and I am lvl 200 and play on hardest difficulty no mods. I thought better legendary sets would drop but they don't or not yet anyway.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Smashpaw:

Im level 67. Picked up the Mantis armor around 10-15. I got pretty decent rolls on the bonuses, and I am still using it. I get legendaries are supposed to be some of the best, but using the same set for almost 60 levels feels broken. I have found a decent amount of gear that has much higher defense stats (PHY, EM, etc) but with the legendary bonuses they dont even compare.

Weapons on the other hand feel much more balanced. A legendary weapon found at level 10 can be outclassed by a basic white weapon pretty quickly.

Can you make a sceenshot of your mantis armour and post it to steam?

Mines on a mannequin in my base. I use...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3039542586

And only really because it has camo on it, i have armour that is 160 dr.. but dont use it, it makes me almost immune to damage. Which is a good thing fighting lv 60+ terrormorphs.. kinda op for most pirates.

[Jer]

Originally posted by EzRyder:

the legendary (rare etc) in guns only refers to the special effects
guns have 4 tiers or levels of quality base, refined, calibrated and advanced
so you can easily have a Legendary gun with low stats compared to a normal Advanced Beowolf for example (then guns with a third prefix is about the mods installed)

ive no idea about armor yet, i only just got that all unlocked and havent actually gone thru the modding yet

The 4 levels of quality I have found thus far are Regular,Advanced,Refined and superior. In that order, Calibrated is a word they use to indicate weapon mods.

[Smashpaw]

Originally posted by Martin:

Originally posted by Smashpaw:

Im level 67. Picked up the Mantis armor around 10-15. I got pretty decent rolls on the bonuses, and I am still using it. I get legendaries are supposed to be some of the best, but using the same set for almost 60 levels feels broken. I have found a decent amount of gear that has much higher defense stats (PHY, EM, etc) but with the legendary bonuses they dont even compare.

Weapons on the other hand feel much more balanced. A legendary weapon found at level 10 can be outclassed by a basic white weapon pretty quickly.

Can you make a sceenshot of your mantis armour and post it to steam?

Mines on a mannequin in my base. I use...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3039542586

And only really because it has camo on it, i have armour that is 160 dr.. but dont use it, it makes me almost immune to damage. Which is a good thing fighting lv 60+ terrormorphs.. kinda op for most pirates.

yea, lemme see if i can, I play on PC gamepass so i didnt see the need to buy the game on steam. Ill get some SS posted here somehow.

[Smashpaw]

Originally posted by Martin:

Originally posted by Smashpaw:

Im level 67. Picked up the Mantis armor around 10-15. I got pretty decent rolls on the bonuses, and I am still using it. I get legendaries are supposed to be some of the best, but using the same set for almost 60 levels feels broken. I have found a decent amount of gear that has much higher defense stats (PHY, EM, etc) but with the legendary bonuses they dont even compare.

Weapons on the other hand feel much more balanced. A legendary weapon found at level 10 can be outclassed by a basic white weapon pretty quickly.

Can you make a sceenshot of your mantis armour and post it to steam?

Mines on a mannequin in my base. I use...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3039542586

And only really because it has camo on it, i have armour that is 160 dr.. but dont use it, it makes me almost immune to damage. Which is a good thing fighting lv 60+ terrormorphs.. kinda op for most pirates.

The armor is armor plated (10% less all dmg,) and + 20 cary capacity
the helm has 50% less weapon weight, amazing for looting enemy outposts, and resources weight 25% less. not amazing but still decent.
the pack has -25% Oxygen usage, and +40 carry weight.

the 3rd stat on all 3 pieces isnt amazing, but as you can see each piece rolled with 2 pretty solid perks on them. Makes it really hard to replace that for anything.

[EternalLoop]

That's why it's legendary KEK.