How are there no aliens?

[Raven Ranks]

Statistically and mathematically speaking, it is all but literally impossible, given the scope and sheer magnitude of not only the Milky Way, but the universe as a whole, to not have intelligent life. Somewhere. Where are they?

I don't like the idea of hiding aliens behind an expansion or dlc wall. But it's also something that I don't put beyond what Bethesda and Microsoft is capable of, either.

When does first contact actually occur?!

[vonbleak]

Publicado originalmente por drksideken:

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

Its a video game - they can do anything they want lol... If they want aliens we get aliens, there does not need to be scientific discussion about a video game haha...

Yes, correctly stated, they could do anything. However, they are the one's that wanted to go a more realistic rout with this game. From the design of the ships right down to buildings being 3d printed on site at settlements (something they are planning on actually talking about doing on the Moon and Mars.) So, yeah, a scientific discussion wouldn't be too far out of place on this particular game.

Yeah sure, but its in the games lore where certain ships can jump 50 light years at a time, so covering large distances and imagining large motherships that could jump much further is not a huge problem... I get that finding aliens within 1000 systems around earth is unlikely - but they dont have to come from those 1000 systems, they could be coming from much further away... Again its a game, so its just a choice if they want them or not, nothing is stopping them from adding them, it wont break any lore...

[Sparhawk122]

If they were to include sapient aliens it would have required more workload from them.

They made up justifications for not including them to make it easier to develop the game. The same reason Earth is a desert in this game. If Earth was still alive they would have had to model cities and work on reasons for not allowing the play to visit said cities on Earth.

This is also the same reason why 900 planets have no life.

No land vehicles.

Equals less work for them. Woke developers always cut corners.

They are not a can do generation. They are a can't do generation.

[vonbleak]

They could easily add aliens with dlc... There is nothing stopping that if they choose...

[Sparhawk122]

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

They could easily add aliens with dlc... There is nothing stopping that if they choose...

They will not.

[Ģ◊иℤ◊⚡ℤ∀муpΛй]

Publicado originalmente por (Jaden) AceAngel TTV:

1) there is aliens.
2) You likely mean intelligent aliens, which I wouldnt expect, the game is only 100 systems

Terramorphs are quite smart, they are even smarter than the Human AI, so the devs prolly had the intention to make humans look extremely dumb on purpose or its just a bethesda game.

[Lindy Bomber]

Publicado originalmente por Sparhawk122:

If they were to include sapient aliens it would have required more workload from them.

They made up justifications for not including them to make it easier to develop the game. The same reason Earth is a desert in this game. If Earth was still alive they would have had to model cities and work on reasons for not allowing the play to visit said cities on Earth.

This is also the same reason why 900 planets have no life.

No land vehicles.

Equals less work for them. Woke developers always cut corners.

They are not a can do generation. They are a can't do generation.

In fairness, they do not have unlimited time and resources. They prioritize certain game play elements and left out others. They could add all of those things, but it would take another 5 years and the game would cost twice as much.

[Varanus]

Publicado originalmente por Woke Or Not:

Statistically and mathematically speaking, it is all but literally impossible, given the scope and sheer magnitude of not only the Milky Way, but the universe as a whole, to not have intelligent life. Somewhere. Where are they?

I don't like the idea of hiding aliens behind an expansion or dlc wall. But it's also something that I don't put beyond what Bethesda and Microsoft is capable of, either.

When does first contact actually occur?!

Statistically and mathematically, the actual odds of intelligent sentient life existing, anywhere in the universe, is actually incredibly low. I believe something in the ballpark, of it only likely happening once in 1 trillion universes, the same age as our own. So if you're looking for an accurate depiction of how much intelligent alien life would be out there in the milky way. Starfield is probably quite close to what its like out there.

[box]

Publicado originalmente por Woke Or Not:

Statistically and mathematically speaking, it is all but literally impossible, given the scope and sheer magnitude of not only the Milky Way, but the universe as a whole, to not have intelligent life. Somewhere. Where are they?

I don't like the idea of hiding aliens behind an expansion or dlc wall. But it's also something that I don't put beyond what Bethesda and Microsoft is capable of, either.

When does first contact actually occur?!

You;ll have to ask the eggheads why despite having mapped the universe and determined there to have been plenty of time for life to evolve, we have not seen powerful alien space empires or traces of them. You would think a spacefaring alien civilization would leave traces and impacts like humans have upon the Earth yet all we've gotten so far is nothing.

Then again this is a videogame, adding aliens into a space sure would have been interesting. Might have even allowed for less focus on "diversity" in humanity.

[atomicturist]

Publicado originalmente por Woke Or Not:

Statistically and mathematically speaking, it is all but literally impossible, given the scope and sheer magnitude of not only the Milky Way, but the universe as a whole, to not have intelligent life. Somewhere. Where are they?

I don't like the idea of hiding aliens behind an expansion or dlc wall. But it's also something that I don't put beyond what Bethesda and Microsoft is capable of, either.

When does first contact actually occur?!

Statisticaly and mathematicaly, the chances for intelligent life are miniscule. The most optimistic model calculates around 30 alien civilizations (most of them not space faring) in Milky Way. And Starfield is set in a tiny tiny tiny tiny corner of Milky May, where chances for another inteligent life are a solid zero.
Also, there are hundred of games with aliens, and all of those aliens are humans with strange faces. So it is better, for, once not encounter another Romulans, Klingons, Gungans or others.
Also, there are aliens in Starfield. Just not intelligent.

[atomicturist]

Publicado originalmente por vonbleak:

Publicado originalmente por CloudsInTheSky:

Speaking from our own reality: Intelligence could be a rare occurrence/mutation in the Universe. Speaking from Bethesda's point of view: DLCs.

Why would it have to be a rare occurrence/mutation...? If the planet supports and has the ingredients and right atmosphere for life, life will develop... Life will develop literally anywhere and everywhere it can...

He is talking about intelligence, not life. That is not the same. True, life can be common in the universe (and in Starfield life is abundant) but intelligence may not be common. There are obstacles for inteligence to develop, and traps intelligent life can fall into and either stop progressing, reverse progress or get destroyed. It's so called Fermi Paradox. Mathematics shows that intelligence should exist, yet there are no signs of it.
So Starfield does space quite right, there is abundance of life, but no (almost) signs of alien (?) inteligence.

[atomicturist]

Publicado originalmente por Eternollon:

Publicado originalmente por atomicturist:

Statisticaly and mathematicaly, the chances for intelligent life are miniscule. The most optimistic model calculates around 30 alien civilizations (most of them not space faring) in Milky Way. And Starfield is set in a tiny tiny tiny tiny corner of Milky May, where chances for another inteligent life are a solid zero.

Conclude anything at Earth level and current level of knowledge is a good joke, just mathematical games not fitting the infinity of the universe and the statistical implication it has.

Nobody knows and it's not the point. The point is it's a core topic in a space science fiction and SF totally skipped it.

That it's an originality is questionable because it adds nothing compared wth space IP with aliens.

Well. The best SF has no inteligent aliens and no alien civilisations. At least not alive.

[Lindy Bomber]

Publicado originalmente por atomicturist:

Publicado originalmente por Woke Or Not:

Statistically and mathematically speaking, it is all but literally impossible, given the scope and sheer magnitude of not only the Milky Way, but the universe as a whole, to not have intelligent life. Somewhere. Where are they?

I don't like the idea of hiding aliens behind an expansion or dlc wall. But it's also something that I don't put beyond what Bethesda and Microsoft is capable of, either.

When does first contact actually occur?!

Statisticaly and mathematicaly, the chances for intelligent life are miniscule. The most optimistic model calculates around 30 alien civilizations (most of them not space faring) in Milky Way. And Starfield is set in a tiny tiny tiny tiny corner of Milky May, where chances for another inteligent life are a solid zero.
Also, there are hundred of games with aliens, and all of those aliens are humans with strange faces. So it is better, for, once not encounter another Romulans, Klingons, Gungans or others.
Also, there are aliens in Starfield. Just not intelligent.

What is your bases for that calculation?

[Sparhawk122]

Publicado originalmente por Varanus:

Publicado originalmente por Woke Or Not:

Statistically and mathematically speaking, it is all but literally impossible, given the scope and sheer magnitude of not only the Milky Way, but the universe as a whole, to not have intelligent life. Somewhere. Where are they?

I don't like the idea of hiding aliens behind an expansion or dlc wall. But it's also something that I don't put beyond what Bethesda and Microsoft is capable of, either.

When does first contact actually occur?!

Statistically and mathematically, the actual odds of intelligent sentient life existing, anywhere in the universe, is actually incredibly low. I believe something in the ballpark, of it only likely happening once in 1 trillion universes, the same age as our own. So if you're looking for an accurate depiction of how much intelligent alien life would be out there in the milky way. Starfield is probably quite close to what its like out there.

That's why real life is boring and people play games to escape reality.

[Thel]

It wasn't in the budget. 20 years gets you this garbage.

[LazyLiz]

That's the dlc