Starfield’s Poor PC Performance Due To “Major Programming Faults”, Says Vulkan Dev

[sno0ks]

But I guess we just need to upgrade our PCs, right? It's not the incompetence of a developer who should know better, right?

https://www.dualshockers.com/starfields-poor-pc-performance-major-programming-faults/

[Steven Segal]

Yup hopefully Bethesda addresses this issue and fixes it. I got the premium early access and I have barley touched the game due to the atrocious optimization.

[Athmet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16gxuse/starfield_doesnt_have_major_programming_faults/

The title refers to the recent post made by person who I will refer as 'Z'. It was originally posted along the lines of reasons why Starfield is unoptimized and have been shared in different subreddits as "Major programming faults discovered in Starfield by VKD3D dev", also by "journalists" or "bloggers".

(It doesn't mean that game doesn't have issues with different CPUs, GPUs, performance etc.,The purpose of the post is to disprove the misinformation that has been shared recently, nothing else)

Person Z has no idea what they're talking about in their post, have misinterpreted VKD3D dev's comments and Pull Requests.

HansKristian-Work (VKD3D dev) has stated on the Pull Request the following:

"NOTE: The meaning of this PR, potential perf impact and the problem it tries to solve is being grossly misrepresented on other sites. " - https://github.com/HansKristian-Work/vkd3d-proton/pull/1694#issue-1886580518

doitsujin (dxvk dev) has also requested that people stop misrepresenting what they say in pull requests or release notes.

Original quote by doitsujin aka on the post made on linux_gaming subreddit

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A friendly user asking a few questions

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doitsujin' reply which has been appreciated by the user:

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A rude user and doitsujin's reply

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Person 'Z' has no idea what they are talking about and especially misrepresented the comments made by VKD3D dev by making up their own explanation of "ExecuteIndirect" which doesn't make any sense. And as explained by doitsujin's point b, it is not a huge performance issue.

Starfield indeed has problems as we know from well-known channels such as GamersNexus, Hardware Unboxed, Digital Foundry etc., but the post made by that person is no way related to the huge issues the game has.

Please don't go around spreading misinformation over comments made by Linux devs on Pull Requests, Changelogs etc., on the technologies used for Linux Gaming.(If you will go over the Pull Request, I think most people will have a hard time understanding it, so don't read it and make your own conclusions to share it as the reason game is terrible)

Also don't be rude to the devs and the people who have been talked about.

No knowledge and Half-Knowledge is dangerous.

[Capt. Migs]

THANK YOU for this. I just had to drop a bad review simply because, despite a weeks worth of effort trying literally EVERYTHING I've seen suggested, the game is still unplayable due to audio out of sync, audio cutting out, freezing and stuttering issues.

[sno0ks]

Originally posted by Athmet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16gxuse/starfield_doesnt_have_major_programming_faults/

so this appears to be saying that the game does have major programming faults, just not in the way the other guy says.

[Sparhawk122]

Originally posted by sno0ks:

Originally posted by Athmet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16gxuse/starfield_doesnt_have_major_programming_faults/

so this appears to be saying that tjr game does have major programming faults, just not in the way the other guy says.

Yup lol.

No denying Bethesda struggle on the tech side. They are using a game engine from 1997 afteral and just renamed it.

[LadyRayneCloud]

Already debunked in this thread. Not that you care about being honest,

[Athmet]

Originally posted by sno0ks:

Originally posted by Athmet:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16gxuse/starfield_doesnt_have_major_programming_faults/

so this appears to be saying that the game does have major programming faults, just not in the way the other guy says.

Person 'Z' has no idea what they are talking about and especially misrepresented the comments made by VKD3D dev by making up their own explanation of "ExecuteIndirect" which doesn't make any sense. And as explained by doitsujin's point b, it is not a huge performance issue.

Starfield indeed has problems as we know from well-known channels such as GamersNexus, Hardware Unboxed, Digital Foundry etc., but the post made by that person is no way related to the huge issues the game has.

Yea the game has issue, but it is not due to "Major programming fault" like your post is trying to make people think.

[sno0ks]

Originally posted by Athmet:

Originally posted by sno0ks:

so this appears to be saying that the game does have major programming faults, just not in the way the other guy says.

Person 'Z' has no idea what they are talking about and especially misrepresented the comments made by VKD3D dev by making up their own explanation of "ExecuteIndirect" which doesn't make any sense. And as explained by doitsujin's point b, it is not a huge performance issue.

Starfield indeed has problems as we know from well-known channels such as GamersNexus, Hardware Unboxed, Digital Foundry etc., but the post made by that person is no way related to the huge issues the game has.

Yea the game has issue, but it is not due to "Major programming fault" like your post is trying to make people think.

i would call whatever "bug" is causing this disastrous performance a programming fault. merely renaming it a bug doesn't really change the fact that the devs' incompetence is responsible for it, even if the particular manner of that incompetence is not represented properly by the original article.

[sno0ks]

Originally posted by LadyRayneCloud:

Already debunked in this thread. Not that you care about being honest,

i acknowledged what he posted what the hell are you talking about? dishonesty would be pretending there aren't massive issues just because some guy got the mechanics wrong.

[Big Gamer]

What is your PC specs so maybe people ca n help you. I have not one crash and run game with no problems.

[Green1]

Originally posted by Capt. Migs:

THANK YOU for this. I just had to drop a bad review simply because, despite a weeks worth of effort trying literally EVERYTHING I've seen suggested, the game is still unplayable due to audio out of sync, audio cutting out, freezing and stuttering issues.

Sounds like you don't have it installed on a SSD. It's a must to play this or you will have those issues.

[Raineth]

Originally posted by Capt. Migs:

THANK YOU for this. I just had to drop a bad review simply because, despite a weeks worth of effort trying literally EVERYTHING I've seen suggested, the game is still unplayable due to audio out of sync, audio cutting out, freezing and stuttering issues.

You HAVE to play it on a SSD otherwise that happens.

[Dave]

Originally posted by sno0ks:

But I guess we just need to upgrade our PCs, right? It's not the incompetence of a developer who should know better, right?

https://www.dualshockers.com/starfields-poor-pc-performance-major-programming-faults/

Part of the issue is the game is coded for Vulkan and then translated into DX12. I get why they do that as it's easier to port. However, the Xbox and Windows don't use Vulkan well. Since this is a Windows and Xbox game, it was silly to do it this way. It should have been coded with DX12 from the ground up.

[sno0ks]

Originally posted by Big Gamer:

What is your PC specs so maybe people ca n help you. I have not one crash and run game with no problems.

pc specs are pointless. it's the game, not the pc.

but just to shut anyone up about me needing to upgrade in order to run this Xbox 360 tier game:

RTX 3090
i9-11900k
4x16 GB DDR4
On an SSD

[GrandTickler]

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