im level 302 - whats the point anymore...

[Fast]

Everything on very hard can be 1 shot now, and there is no challenge left...
There is literally nothing to do... anymore...
why did they not make NG+ have scaled enemies and difficulty to match your progress in levels...

https://imgur.com/a/Ob94EBc
^^^these are my stats as of 4 days ago(very first playthrough), i completed all achievement legitimately. since some of you are garbage at games and think everyone who does things fast is cheating. enjoy.

EDIT: NO I DID NOT CHEAT TO LEVEL I DID THIS(ADAPTIVEFRAMES) BUT FROM 180+ I USED EXOTIC MATERIALS USING INTER SYSTEM CARGO LINK OUTPOSTS BECAUSE ADAPTIVE FRAMES FALL OFF HARD

https://youtu.be/4UYpski6tyA

Here is how you refill containers since some people have no idea how the game even works :

https://youtu.be/SZxpjH1VouI

[Dede]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by Dede:

Exploits are ABSOLUTELY not unintended mechanics, that's by definition an EXPLOIT, you are EXPLOITING a mechanic to get an advantage you are not intended to have.

Opening a chest to get infinite drops on Destiny 2 was an exploit, but opening a chest was an intended mechanic, which got people banned because they exploited an oversight.

You are doing the same thing, but crafting frames, you are exploiting an mechanic to get exp which had the oversight of giving you too many levels easily.

the loot cave didnt get anyone banned.
it was fixed, thats because it was not intended for you to open the chest over and over. but it is intended for you to open chests...

why are you conflating 2 different things... you are not smart or clever, at best you dont know the most basic things about starfield nor the difference between exploits, cheats and what is intended. Sadly...you are just talking crap. And the point still stands, the NG+ is pointless... why even have it....it offers nothing gameplay wise, and only some mild narrative stuff that honestly can be ignored.

I would argue you probably dont even know how outposts are built or even work, go watch a youtube video.

I got the Destiny loot cave and the Anthem chest mixed, Anthem did ban not Destiny.

But you're by definition not understanding the word exploit, and you can insult my intelligence all you want, it will only get you banned, make your arguments look weaker and rather then ask if I have made an outpost assuming I haven't when it's irrelevant again makes your arguments weaker when I have said over and over crafting itself CAN be exploited, but you DID exploit it, just as any part of the game you can get results that the developers obviously did not intend, like the Destiny loot cave. Opening a chest is intentional, getting infinite loot obviously not.

Also where is the source on: "Todd himself categorically said the intent of NG+ was to make it challenging later on.."

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by Fast:

the loot cave didnt get anyone banned.
it was fixed, thats because it was not intended for you to open the chest over and over. but it is intended for you to open chests...

And because you were not intended to open that chest over and over again, you exploited the chest. Them not banning people over it, doesn't mean anything. Not every exploit needs to lead to a ban.

In this case Starfield intends for you to get xp crafting, it does NOT intend for you to have a cot next to your crafting station on a low rotation planet and grind out 200 levels. That is the exploitation.

And i wouldn't be surprised if your actions, especially since you now complain about the results of your exploits, lead to the removal of XP or capping of XP from crafting.

What you are doing is exploiting and you can stamp your foot and exclaim this is wrong all day.... doesn't change the fact that Crafting clearly isn't intended to let you grind out hundreds of levels doing F-all and playing Starfield as a Clicker.

And if you wouldn't be here complaining about the results of you exploiting the hell out of the fact that you get a pittance of XP for crafting, we wouldn't be having this "conversation". But alas here you are.. complaining that you exploited a mechanic until the game became "boring"... well.. start a new game, don't exploit the mechanic. Problem solved.

When you get back to level 300+ the intended way, then we can maybe entertain the need to discuss the difficulty.

[Fast]

Originally posted by Dede:

Originally posted by Fast:

the loot cave didnt get anyone banned.
it was fixed, thats because it was not intended for you to open the chest over and over. but it is intended for you to open chests...

why are you conflating 2 different things... you are not smart or clever, at best you dont know the most basic things about starfield nor the difference between exploits, cheats and what is intended. Sadly...you are just talking crap. And the point still stands, the NG+ is pointless... why even have it....it offers nothing gameplay wise, and only some mild narrative stuff that honestly can be ignored.

I would argue you probably dont even know how outposts are built or even work, go watch a youtube video.

I got the Destiny loot cave and the Anthem chest mixed, Anthem did ban not Destiny.

But you're by definition not understanding the word exploit, and you can insult my intelligence all you want, it will only get you banned, make your arguments look weaker and rather then ask if I have made an outpost assuming I haven't when it's irrelevant again makes your arguments weaker when I have said over and over crafting itself CAN be exploited, but you DID exploit it, just as any part of the game you can get results that the developers obviously did not intend, like the Destiny loot cave. Opening a chest is intentional, getting infinite loot obviously not.

Also where is the source on: "Todd himself categorically said the intent of NG+ was to make it challenging later on.."

Originally posted by Fast:

WIKI : In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitch, or use elements of a game system in a manner not intended by the game's designers, in a way that gives a substantial unfair advantage to players using it.[1]


Crafting at a bench = intended
Crafting at a bench en mass = intended
Getting EXP for crafting = Intended

[Dede]

Originally posted by Fast:

WIKI : In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitch, or use elements of a game system in a manner not intended by the game's designers, in a way that gives a substantial unfair advantage to players using it.[1]


Crafting at a bench = intended
Crafting at a bench en mass = intended
Getting EXP for crafting = Intended

use elements of a game system in a manner not intended by the game's designers, in a way that gives a substantial unfair advantage to players using it."

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by Fast:

Crafting at a bench = intended
Crafting at a bench en mass = intended
Getting EXP for crafting = Intended

Grinding out hundreds of levels = not intended.

[SiF]

Originally posted by Fast:

WIKI : In video games, an exploit is the use of a bug or glitch, or use elements of a game system in a manner not intended by the game's designers, in a way that gives a substantial unfair advantage to players using it.[1]


Crafting at a bench = intended
Crafting at a bench en mass = intended
Getting EXP for crafting = Intended

im sure they intended that you do nothing but sit at ur desk for 10+ hours doing NOTHING but crafting.... Hey maybe they did... And im sure then they expected you to complain when the game was to ezy and just wanted to listen to people complain on steam fourms

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Fast:

Everything on very hard can be 1 shot now, and there is no challenge left...
There is literally nothing to do... anymore...
why did they not make NG+ have scaled enemies and difficulty to match your progress in levels...

https://imgur.com/a/Ob94EBc
^^^these are my stats as of 4 days ago(very first playthrough), i completed all achievement legitimately. since some of you are garbage at games and think everyone who does things fast is cheating. enjoy.

EDIT: NO I DID NOT CHEAT TO LEVEL I DID THIS(ADAPTIVEFRAMES) BUT FROM 180+ I USED EXOTIC MATERIALS USING INTER SYSTEM CARGO LINK OUTPOSTS BECAUSE ADAPTIVE FRAMES FALL OFF HARD

https://youtu.be/4UYpski6tyA

Here is how you refill containers since some people have no idea how the game even works :

https://youtu.be/SZxpjH1VouI

same I'm at 336 now and the lack of a end game is so dumb

[Kashra Fall]

I really don't know why you fellas/lasses are continuing with Fast. They do this in every game they play. They watch a video, see something easy, proceed to do it and then complain how easy something is to try and convince you it is too easy and or, you're bad. In BG3 they were literally telling people they were bad at the game because they didn't look up where legendary gear was/use a paladin to beat technician. Stop wasting your time, it's a troll and nothing more.

[Dede]

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

LoL people are still foaming ? Let's just get a mod to close the thread, this is sad now.

Bro some of us enjoy arguing, it's fun for me to open up the overlay. I don't think anyone here is evil or bad but arguing can be a fun thing.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by FallenActual:

same I'm at 336 now and the lack of a end game is so dumb

Seriously, how would you know? By all accounts if you play the game regularily then going through multiple NG+ is where the difficulty is supposed to come in. You are clearly not supposed to grind out 300 level in your first playthrough. You are likely supposed to reach level 300 in your 10th NG+ or whatever and who knows what the game looks like then.

[Danyel]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

Originally posted by Zalzany:

level 50 is max so your 6 times max level, game is meant to be played but ask the mod author to make enemies scale with you sigh.

50 is level max. It is not skill max. You can earn skill points beyond 50 to keep advancing your character. The exact same way it worked in Skyrim.

Eh no it is not, there is no level cap in Starfield. I mean you even need lvl 60 for some of the top end ship parts to show up at shipyards etc

[Dootslayer]

I just dropped by to say that i realised that i hate every single person on the steam forums. I really do.

I swear it wasn't a cesspool years ago, or maybe my memory is just playing tricks on me, but you could have discussions.

[Fast]

Originally posted by FallenActual:

Originally posted by Fast:

Everything on very hard can be 1 shot now, and there is no challenge left...
There is literally nothing to do... anymore...
why did they not make NG+ have scaled enemies and difficulty to match your progress in levels...

https://imgur.com/a/Ob94EBc
^^^these are my stats as of 4 days ago(very first playthrough), i completed all achievement legitimately. since some of you are garbage at games and think everyone who does things fast is cheating. enjoy.

EDIT: NO I DID NOT CHEAT TO LEVEL I DID THIS(ADAPTIVEFRAMES) BUT FROM 180+ I USED EXOTIC MATERIALS USING INTER SYSTEM CARGO LINK OUTPOSTS BECAUSE ADAPTIVE FRAMES FALL OFF HARD

https://youtu.be/4UYpski6tyA

Here is how you refill containers since some people have no idea how the game even works :

https://youtu.be/SZxpjH1VouI

same I'm at 336 now and the lack of a end game is so dumb

It would have been great if there was like an endless dungeon type thing or something you could do.

[ewitte]

Originally posted by AoD_lexandro:

So...you bum rushed the content before its even been patched and are now complaining about it? I mean come on mate, less than 10% have got to level 50 yet.

I'm level 7 lol

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by Dootslayer:

I just dropped by to say that i realised that i hate every single person on the steam forums. I really do.

I swear it wasn't a cesspool years ago, or maybe my memory is just playing tricks on me, but you could have discussions.

Counter Strike, back in the 90ties, was the original cess pool. The OG toxic community. It is where it all started. So yeah, no... Valve's stuff was always a toxic cesspool.