im level 302 - whats the point anymore...

[Fast]

Everything on very hard can be 1 shot now, and there is no challenge left...
There is literally nothing to do... anymore...
why did they not make NG+ have scaled enemies and difficulty to match your progress in levels...

https://imgur.com/a/Ob94EBc
^^^these are my stats as of 4 days ago(very first playthrough), i completed all achievement legitimately. since some of you are garbage at games and think everyone who does things fast is cheating. enjoy.

EDIT: NO I DID NOT CHEAT TO LEVEL I DID THIS(ADAPTIVEFRAMES) BUT FROM 180+ I USED EXOTIC MATERIALS USING INTER SYSTEM CARGO LINK OUTPOSTS BECAUSE ADAPTIVE FRAMES FALL OFF HARD

https://youtu.be/4UYpski6tyA

Here is how you refill containers since some people have no idea how the game even works :

https://youtu.be/SZxpjH1VouI

[Fast]

Originally posted by Monochromatic Spider:

This topic is unbelievable. So many people going total flattard mode. "But if the world is round and spinning then surely we would all be falling off, and the Aussies would complain about being upside down, therefore you must be lying!!".

The point being made is that the game will very quickly become very easy once you get a few level ups, and it does not rebalance. NG+ and NG++ and NG+++ are the same difficulty as the normal game, which begs the question of what on Earth is the point of those game modes when you're going to be increasingly mega-OP?

Whether the topic creator cheated or exploited or cheesed or gimmicked his way to level 300+ is completely irrelevant. He would have been OP at level 100 as well. He took a shortcut to high level city but anyone who plays the game for a while is going to end there eventually, running into the same problem.

Bethesda made a game with "new game plus" modes and designed the game with the intention that people should keep beating the game and explore the new game pluses, roguelite style. But they seemingly did nothing whatsoever to maintain a reasonable degree of challenge in later new games. Which begs the question of what on Earth one is actually meant to do for fun in new game plus mode?

Does anyone know?

And please don't claim that it's just a theoretical problem for level 300 characters. The game isn't super hard at level 40. Go through the game again, you'll get more levels, more power upgrades, obviously and necessarily your character is going to be even stronger, and if there is no rescaling at all to counter-balance it then each NG+ is necessarily going to become significantly easier than the previous one.

This is exactly my point. It doesnt matter how you get there, its the fact when you do...the game is pointless, there is literally no challenge, nothing to do other than repeat fetch quests you already did and kill level 1-75 enemies depending on where you go, and some 110 elites which also die in one hit...

nothing changes except some narrative stuff and the constellation people depending on the multiverse you get but thats literally it...like whats the point. I though it will get harder or offer more challenge or something you get nothing... just the ability to grind power levels for no reason.

[Dede]

Originally posted by Monochromatic Spider:

This topic is unbelievable. So many people going total flattard mode. "But if the world is round and spinning then surely we would all be falling off, and the Aussies would complain about being upside down, therefore you must be lying!!".

The point being made is that the game will very quickly become very easy once you get a few level ups, and it does not rebalance. NG+ and NG++ and NG+++ are the same difficulty as the normal game, which begs the question of what on Earth is the point of those game modes when you're going to be increasingly mega-OP?

Whether the topic creator cheated or exploited or cheesed or gimmicked his way to level 300+ is completely irrelevant. He would have been OP at level 100 as well. He took a shortcut to high level city but anyone who plays the game for a while is going to end there eventually, running into the same problem.

Bethesda made a game with "new game plus" modes and designed the game with the intention that people should keep beating the game and explore the new game pluses, roguelite style. But they seemingly did nothing whatsoever to maintain a reasonable degree of challenge in later new games. Which begs the question of what on Earth one is actually meant to do for fun in new game plus mode?

Does anyone know?

And please don't claim that it's just a theoretical problem for level 300 characters. The game isn't super hard at level 40. Go through the game again, you'll get more levels, more power upgrades, obviously and necessarily your character is going to be even stronger, and if there is no rescaling at all to counter-balance it then each NG+ is necessarily going to become significantly easier than the previous one.

As an Aussie this is FAKE NEWS!

Yes there will be people who reach absurdly high levels, NG+ is not "Designed" with the intention to beat the game repetitively, it's there as a tool to wipe your game progress. If you want challenge this is not the game for you, nor Skyrim, nor Fallout, because you can very easily overpower most enemies and with some time invested you can overpower everything but the Uber bosses (2 I think, a Giant and Umbra)

I think there is a legitimate argument to make for harder options, a harder mode, scaling options, bigger threats instead of random crimson with 3x health bars. But those will all be redundant if someone does this exploit anyway, even Dark Souls will have a soft cap because you just don't have enough scaling to compete against enemies. This dude will hit 300 with scaling, get obliterated by a scaled mob and complain the game is unbalanced because Todd didn't personally check every level in an infinite scaling system

[Dede]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by Dede:

Nobody is bad at the game, you're being disingenuous. You abused an exp farm method and whine the game is too easy, play the game and don't exploit then, you don't need a thread for this just consider what the problem is, how it happened, and what you can do to avoid it. It's the logic they teach LITERAL CHILDREN.

the problem is , that NG+ should have scaling or some kind of difficulty increase so the game doesnt become a trivial pointless experience in NG+...you know, the reason NG+ was invented in the first place...

Where's the quote from Todd, not reading replies until you provide receipts.

[Old Man Gamer (OMG)]

No idea how you can achieve that level so fast, but it is about the journey. Good games, especially single player are not aimed top dog and just 'pawn' everything. It is about becoming that. That is why I despise the chosen one aspects of games. Special is achieved, not just given.

[seven_legs]

you got your jester points and made money for you fake youtube videos, now fek off

[Fast]

Originally posted by seven_legs:

you got your jester points and made money for you fake youtube videos, now fek off

those videos are unlisted , and i dont do youtube, but some people are not smart enough to understand how the game works. so it was important for me to explain through the context of a video.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by Fast:

im level 302 - whats the point anymore...

It is the same point you had at level 100. Based on your stats you did F-all in the game and just grinded levels. Since you are clearly having a clicker mentality that needs to see level numbers go up, i suggest you keep doing that.

Originally posted by Fast:

Everything on very hard can be 1 shot now, and there is no challenge left...
There is literally nothing to do... anymore...
why did they not make NG+ have scaled enemies and difficulty to match your progress in levels...

And what point would that be? I already one shooted enemies at level 5. I found a shotgun, put points into stealth and were able to one shot most enemies. So who cares?

If the enemies would scale along with you, then what is even the point of leveling, when you never reach the Power Fantasy point of the game, where all your hard work pays off and you actually waltz into a room, murdering everything.

Of course, you didn't work hard, you just grind items in your base. But that doesn't mean that stuff should scale with you.

Congratulations, you realized that if you exploit a mechanic, then eventually stuff will be less fun. I assume you haven't been playing many video games before. I know its a hard lesson to digest but it is what it is.

[Luckiernut]

It is a bit silly that this can be done

[Russian Embassy]

So you cheated... Your made use of an exploit

[NegativeZero]

This Fast guy was making tons of idiotic posts in the BG3 forum as well. I think he can't help it.

[Luckiernut]

Originally posted by Russian Embassy:

So you cheated... Your made use of an exploit

it's not a cheat, you get a xp for crafting, it's all legit

[Dede]

Originally posted by Fast:

Originally posted by seven_legs:

you got your jester points and made money for you fake youtube videos, now fek off

those videos are unlisted , and i dont do youtube, but some people are not smart enough to understand how the game works. so it was important for me to explain through the context of a video.

Nobody is arguing how the game works, you're complaining after using an EXP Farm (Exploit) the game at an absurdly high level of over 300 is too boring when everyone else is telling you that is an exploit, it ruined your fun and you need to think about the things you do rather then do them and blame someone else like a narcissist. I don't think you ARE one, but you're lack of self-awareness to cause your problem, label it an EXP FARM and complain the game didn't keep up with your level is a self-inflicted issue. But you're pretending everyone else is too dumb to get it, WE GET IT, you just aren't listening to the replies.

Also where is the source on: "Todd himself categorically said the intent of NG+ was to make it challenging later on.."

[Dede]

Originally posted by Luckiernut:

Originally posted by Russian Embassy:

So you cheated... Your made use of an exploit

it's not a cheat, you get a xp for crafting, it's all legit

If you play a game that tells you to push a button to win or to play for 100 hours and experience a full game, you aren't "Cheating" by pressing the button, but you also can't complain you pressed the button and you get the results of your consequences.

[Fast]

Originally posted by Dede:

Originally posted by Fast:

those videos are unlisted , and i dont do youtube, but some people are not smart enough to understand how the game works. so it was important for me to explain through the context of a video.

Nobody is arguing how the game works, you're complaining after using an EXP Farm (Exploit) the game at an absurdly high level of over 300 is too boring when everyone else is telling you that is an exploit, it ruined your fun and you need to think about the things you do rather then do them and blame someone else like a narcissist. I don't think you ARE one, but you're lack of self-awareness to cause your problem, label it an EXP FARM and complain the game didn't keep up with your level is a self-inflicted issue. But you're pretending everyone else is too dumb to get it, WE GET IT, you just aren't listening to the replies.

Also where is the source on: "Todd himself categorically said the intent of NG+ was to make it challenging later on.."

but its not an exploit though....

[SiF]

Found the Video!!!!! Your Just like these guys here!!!!! Welll I spent 100k US and so did most of my guild.... But now we have no one to play with WTF Im so tiggered right now why doesnt everyone else just spend 100k. So i have people to play with again..... NG+ was just away to start the game over and Do other Factions and get more "LOOT" thats it thats all there was nothing else

P.S They did this when the game First came out too........ No NORMAL PERSON is that level or has the GEAR..... But good Job you rushed ur game and you broke it for your self

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Evu5Q-HljhI