Bethesda needs to convince microsoft to buy Obsidian

[Zerwaxle]

New Vegas, Morrowind, Oblivion.

[Kitty]

Morrowind, Oblivion are Bethesda game wtf you talking about..

[cbiocca]

Originally posted by Zerwaxle:

New Vegas, Morrowind, Oblivion.

A couple of things. Firstly, Oblivion and Morrowind were both made by Bethesda Game Studios.

Secondly, you must've missed the memo. MS bought Obsidian Ent. MS bought them before they bought Bethesda.

[Mister Burkes]

Michael Kirkbride is the guy who made the story/writing/lore/worldbuilding of Morrowind + Oblivion special. He left Bethesda after Oblivion.

Microsoft owns both studios already.

[Wrothbog]

your from an alternate universe clearly

[UNBREAKABLE]

op's dreams became real and they didn't know it, truly heartwarming

[opus132]

The people who made New Vegas don't even work for Obsidian anymore.

[Mister Burkes]

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

op's dreams became real and they didn't know it, truely heartwarming

The real questions is why is it so hard for Microsoft and Bethesda to find good writers for their RPG games?

Obsidian is good, but not amazing. I've been playing Obsidian titles ever since NWN2.

[alex010300]

Not going to happen, New Vegas didn't meet the sales number.

[Blackout]

Originally posted by Zerwaxle:

New Vegas, Morrowind, Oblivion.

Microsoft already acquired Obsidian a few years back. The people that worked on FNV don't work there anymore. Thus, it is not the same Obsidian.

[opus132]

Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:

op's dreams became real and they didn't know it, truely heartwarming

The real questions is why is it so hard for Microsoft and Bethesda to find good writers for their RPG games?

Obsidian is good, but not amazing. I've been playing Obsidian titles ever since NWN2.

Obsidian had good writers (emphasis on had) but for years were too afraid to go "all the way" because they didn't want to repeat the ordeal they went through with Black Isle.

NWN2 is very averagely written, then suddenly the same people put out Mask of the Betrayer. The only explanation is that they wrote NWN2 like that intentionally because they were afraid the game wouldn't have sold with more advanced writing.

[Mister Burkes]

Originally posted by opus132:

Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

The real questions is why is it so hard for Microsoft and Bethesda to find good writers for their RPG games?

Obsidian is good, but not amazing. I've been playing Obsidian titles ever since NWN2.

Obsidian had good writers (emphasis on had) but for years were too afraid to go "all the way" because they didn't want to repeat the ordeal they went through with Black Isle.

NWN2 is very averagely written, then suddenly the same people put out Mask of the Betrayer. The only explanation is that they wrote NWN2 like that intentionally because they were afraid the game wouldn't have sold with more advanced writing.

Joke's on Obsidian, they could've been Larian Studios, instead now they're just slaves to MSFT.

Tyranny was a really unique game though, prob my favorite title of theirs.

[wetlander]

Why? so microsoft can ruin another company?

[Mister Burkes]

Originally posted by wetlander:

Why? so microsoft can ruin another company?

Bethesda ruined themselves. If anything, Microsoft saved this game from being even more of a disaster by making them delay the release.

[Alex]

What they need to do is have some Obsidian/Black Isle league writers with no strings attached, no restrictions. These guys can write the crap out of a story. Problem is these days you can't have a good story because good stories get filtered through the corpo pipes and twisted to be "attractive", to appeal to different ages, types of people and so on and you end up with a mediocre story at best. Look at the movie industry and the drop in quality over the years. Everyone has to be represented for some reason, everything must be censored as to not insult someone somewhere with the most superficial remarks. So I don't think the problem comes from the writers but rather from those who keep putting restrictions on their writing.

[Mush]

someone should tell Microsoft to stop buying up game companies, thank you.