The game cheats..

[Martin]

It literally does.. I'm lv 40 have the vanguard shield with the perks about 4k shields in total. So the pirates decide for one reason or another to collect a bounty on me.. and turn up with 8 ships.. it doesn't matter how many shields you have.. with 8 ships shooting at you, you might as well be made of paper. I killed 4 but had to grav jump out.

I've noticed on the ground fights as well.. there is always a boss or 5 in with the grunts and they're always twice the level you are.. not the same level.. the game can't win unless it's cheating. And even when it cheats it often still can't win.

[Zalzany]

So the complaint is game is challenging at level 40 not boring and easy? You don't have to win every fight some times you got run away. Its not like you are the chosen one.

[Mismagius]

yeah, the game has a lot of difficulty spikes even on normal. one time i was fighting my way through an abandoned ship and i was doing well against the pirates. and then out of nowhere i get killed in a few shots at full health from an enemy that was much higher level than me.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

So the complaint is game is challenging at level 40 not boring and easy? You don't have to win every fight some times you got run away. Its not like you are the chosen one.

It isn't a challenge.. if i'd stayed I'd have been reloading.. where's the challenge?

[Deadoon]

Space battles can turn into a dps race depending on how you go about them. I have double 12 power standard particle beams to melt enemies in only a second or so,

Ground battles are no hazard really with good guns. Using a refined beowulf in semi auto with AP rounds and high powered mod and I can easily kill level 100 special(multi health bar) enemies. Heck the toughest enemies I fought were some wildlife which had some massive health pools and did massive damage on a level 75 planet.

Edit: Currently level 47, power leveling my self through hunting that wildlife for the massive exp they give.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Space battles can turn into a dps race depending on how you go about them. I have double 12 power standard particle beams to melt enemies in only a second or so,

Ground battles are no hazard really with good guns. Using a refined beowulf with AP rounds and high powered mod and I can easily kill level 100 special enemies. Heck the toughest enemies I fought were some wildlife which had some massive health pools and did massive damage on a level 75 planet.

yeh the wildlife that hurls globs of goo at you then stunlocks you is fun to fight. The "stagger" effect in the game is abit stupid.. imo. That you can't even effectively switch weapons because you're being stunned or reload.. it's just stupid design.

Fortunately I now save the game before every door and every jump, the games crashed so many times i have no choice but to do so. Lost maybe 50 hours of gameplay due to bugs and crashes and the ai cheating. As I said.. it does obviously cheat, that doesn't make it more challenging really and it doesn't mean the ai wins.. it just cheats and loses or doesn't cheat and still loses. I don't mind reloading if i mess up, but the game tends to crash when it reloads or generally just loads, it's one of the major issues with all the cutscenes.. the game crashes after you go through a door, after you jump in space, after you land..

But i persevere. Over 200 hours now and climbing.

I am also using double particle beams, with a c34 reactor. It really isn't that much more useful against lv 60 ships than it is against lv 20s the problem is having 3-4 ships firing at you is a workable solution, having 6-8 is beyond the capability of the shields.. might as well not even have them for the length of time they last for.

The ship designing etc sniping, collecting stuff, exploring, story and missions is all good, but the core game is absolute trash.

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Martin:

Originally posted by Zalzany:

So the complaint is game is challenging at level 40 not boring and easy? You don't have to win every fight some times you got run away. Its not like you are the chosen one.

It isn't a challenge.. if i'd stayed I'd have been reloading.. where's the challenge?

Other people figured it out, so no you wouldn't you just want face tank it all sigh. Boost exists for a reason kite the break them up, use strategy, instead you drive head first into all 8 and wonder why when 8 ships fire on you at once its a bad idea, but still kill half of them lol. I mean if you can do that just boost till sheilds are back up pop a repair kit then hold space to 180 and fire back again lol

[Rivaldman]

I find that starship combat is the only place where levels matter.

On ground, I can kill anyone at any level.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Zalzany:

Originally posted by Martin:

It isn't a challenge.. if i'd stayed I'd have been reloading.. where's the challenge?

Other people figured it out, so no you wouldn't you just want face tank it all sigh. Boost exists for a reason kite the break them up, use strategy, instead you drive head first into all 8 and wonder why when 8 ships fire on you at once its a bad idea, but still kill half of them lol. I mean if you can do that just boost till sheilds are back up pop a repair kit then hold space to 180 and fire back again lol

Boost is rubbish all it does is make it harder to shoot anything, it doesn't stop missiles hitting you it's best used to get in behind the ships asap, then you can just stay behind them, the problem with kiting, is you're the one being kited all the time, they put 2 ships in front of you as bait then shoot out your engines as you try to kill the bait. If you turn around and shoot those behind you, the bait turns and does the same thing, it's trash game design.

As for figuring it out.. shut up.. I'm lv 40 how do you think I got here.. I'm 200 hours into the game I've killed hundreds of pirate ships.. so I know what i'm talking about.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by Martin:

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Space battles can turn into a dps race depending on how you go about them. I have double 12 power standard particle beams to melt enemies in only a second or so,

Ground battles are no hazard really with good guns. Using a refined beowulf with AP rounds and high powered mod and I can easily kill level 100 special enemies. Heck the toughest enemies I fought were some wildlife which had some massive health pools and did massive damage on a level 75 planet.

yeh the wildlife that hurls globs of goo at you then stunlocks you is fun to fight. The "stagger" effect in the game is abit stupid.. imo. That you can't even effectively switch weapons because you're being stunned or reload.. it's just stupid design.

Fortunately I now save the game before every door and every jump, the games crashed so many times i have no choice but to do so. Lost maybe 50 hours of gameplay due to bugs and crashes and the ai cheating. As I said.. it does obviously cheat, that doesn't make it more challenging really and it doesn't mean the ai wins.. it just cheats and loses or doesn't cheat and still loses. I don't mind reloading if i mess up, but the game tends to crash when it reloads or generally just loads, it's one of the major issues with all the cutscenes.. the game crashes after you go through a door, after you jump in space, after you land..

But i persevere. Over 200 hours now and climbing.

Enemies using effective attacks and tactics like swarming isn't cheating, it's basic logic. If you are having issues, a coachman with hive explosive rounds can stagger basically everything while dealing over 300 damage per shot easily. They also have a huge aoe for a shotgun shell.
The beowulf is a fast firing light carbine with impressive damage that will melt through most target's health pools with very cheap ammo.
Also there is your powers, and jump pack. Sometimes the best solution to fighting the enemy is to take to the skies and shoot them from above.

Don't just sit there and get hit, move and take cover. In space that might even taking a loop around an asteroid, switching thruster mode and gliding backwards while shooting.

[KaijuSoul]

Originally posted by Martin:

It literally does.. I'm lv 40 have the vanguard shield with the perks about 4k shields in total. So the pirates decide for one reason or another to collect a bounty on me.. and turn up with 8 ships.. it doesn't matter how many shields you have.. with 8 ships shooting at you, you might as well be made of paper. I killed 4 but had to grav jump out.

I've noticed on the ground fights as well.. there is always a boss or 5 in with the grunts and they're always twice the level you are.. not the same level.. the game can't win unless it's cheating. And even when it cheats it often still can't win.

id love to see you play an actually hard game.

[Martin]

Originally posted by MagicHp:

Originally posted by Martin:

Yes it is, go troll elsewhere.

Really, you are angry because you lost at a game and therefore you have the right to insult others? ^^

Keep at it, you already showed that you don't know what is a cheat nor how to control yourself, this is gonna be fun ;)

I didn't lose anything? I had to reload once.. went in again, killed half, jumped out, went back the rest were gone, carried on playing. I've been playing for 12 hours.. just thought i'd mention it on the forums, that doesn't give people the right to trash talk my posts. Or make up rubbish about what they think might have happened.

[Martin]

Originally posted by Deadoon:

Originally posted by Martin:

yeh the wildlife that hurls globs of goo at you then stunlocks you is fun to fight. The "stagger" effect in the game is abit stupid.. imo. That you can't even effectively switch weapons because you're being stunned or reload.. it's just stupid design.

Fortunately I now save the game before every door and every jump, the games crashed so many times i have no choice but to do so. Lost maybe 50 hours of gameplay due to bugs and crashes and the ai cheating. As I said.. it does obviously cheat, that doesn't make it more challenging really and it doesn't mean the ai wins.. it just cheats and loses or doesn't cheat and still loses. I don't mind reloading if i mess up, but the game tends to crash when it reloads or generally just loads, it's one of the major issues with all the cutscenes.. the game crashes after you go through a door, after you jump in space, after you land..

But i persevere. Over 200 hours now and climbing.

Enemies using effective attacks and tactics like swarming isn't cheating, it's basic logic. If you are having issues, a coachman with hive explosive rounds can stagger basically everything while dealing over 300 damage per shot easily. They also have a huge aoe for a shotgun shell.
The beowulf is a fast firing light carbine with impressive damage that will melt through most target's health pools with very cheap ammo.
Also there is your powers, and jump pack. Sometimes the best solution to fighting the enemy is to take to the skies and shoot them from above.

Don't just sit there and get hit, move and take cover. In space that might even taking a loop around an asteroid, switching thruster mode and gliding backwards while shooting.

The beowulf is junk you stop using those around lv 30. I have one that does 240 damage it's awesome fully upgrded with armour pierce and another with whitehot rounds.. but then so is my kumar thing that spits out flechettes at 60 damage a pop.. it's way better, shreds everything.. have to reload alot tho.. got a unique named sniper that does like 340 damage.. but it only hold 6 shots.. still headshots kills pretty much everything in 1 shot. Ground combat is abit lack luster, sometimes i snipe them, sometimes go in with shotgun, sometime microgun.. depends.. the best fights are the old colony guard bases.. and the hangers where they get backup

Loving the game it's great fun, just wish it would stop cheating. The space fights would be better if they attacked with 8 ships but in 2 split waves.. so 4 up close 4 further off.. sort of thing, 8 ships on you is no challenge it's just reload.. time. And reloading isn't a big issue except the game often crashes.

I prefer to run everywhere where possible, just to stop the game crashes at cutscenes.

[Martin]

Originally posted by DankmasterKaiju:

Originally posted by Martin:

It literally does.. I'm lv 40 have the vanguard shield with the perks about 4k shields in total. So the pirates decide for one reason or another to collect a bounty on me.. and turn up with 8 ships.. it doesn't matter how many shields you have.. with 8 ships shooting at you, you might as well be made of paper. I killed 4 but had to grav jump out.

I've noticed on the ground fights as well.. there is always a boss or 5 in with the grunts and they're always twice the level you are.. not the same level.. the game can't win unless it's cheating. And even when it cheats it often still can't win.

id love to see you play an actually hard game.

I'd love to find out... this game on v hard once you're past lvl 20 or so just isn't a challenge.. no game really is once you get kitted up. I've been playing pc games for 30 years.. no such thing as a hard game, just cheatin ai.

[Humble]

It's seem game do not follow level system, let said 1 level system yet I fight 5 to 20 level in 1 to 10 level system, I guess those level system gave idea that may be easier or harder, but I guess boss might be only try to match your level but anything other non boss enemies stay in range of level system. sometime One star system had 1 level but near star system had 5 level system, so go on, but I guess only boss enemies might be match your similar level, more or less, while non boss enemies follow star system level similar.

[Deadoon]

Originally posted by Martin:

The beowulf is junk you stop using those around lv 30. I have one that does 240 damage it's awesome fully upgrded with armour pierce and another with whitehot rounds.. but then so is my kumar thing that spits out flechettes at 60 damage a pop.. it's way better, shreds everything.. have to reload alot tho.. got a unique named sniper that does like 340 damage.. but it only hold 6 shots.. still headshots kills pretty much everything in 1 shot. Ground combat is abit lack luster, sometimes i snipe them, sometimes go in with shotgun, sometime microgun.. depends.. the best fights are the old colony guard bases.. and the hangers where they get backup

Loving the game it's great fun, just wish it would stop cheating. The space fights would be better if they attacked with 8 ships but in 2 split waves.. so 4 up close 4 further off.. sort of thing, 8 ships on you is no challenge it's just reload.. time. And reloading isn't a big issue except the game often crashes.

Basic beowulf is meh, but higher grade ones are great. Low cost, high accuracy, high range, low recoil, good damage, and decent magazine size. Couple taps and most medium and lighter targets are down, and a few more for anything heavier. Specials might take a bit, but still go down with minimal effort.

Pure damage per shot is not the biggest deal, it is how often you hit, and how reliably you hit the target. Beowulfs are good for those two things. 340 damage is nothing for high level wildlife, I'm dealing with mobs that will eat literally 2-3k worth of damage before going down.

My shotgun hits for over 300, but I use it for the utility and multi target damage of the explosions, not it's raw dps.

Originally posted by Martin:

I'd love to find out... this game on v hard once you're past lvl 20 or so just isn't a challenge.. no game really is once you get kitted up. I've been playing pc games for 30 years.. no such thing as a hard game, just cheatin ai.

If you can't handle it turn down the difficulty. Just because the game has challenges doesn't mean they are cheating.