Stutter when changing weapons / opening scanner

[Doctor Mantis Toboggan]

There is a frustrating bug that causes this massive stutter/lag when opening scanner or switching weapons.

------ ATTN: STARLORDS!!! -------
----- UPDATE WITH THE WORKAROUND FIX ------

REMOVE ANY INVENTORY THAT CAN BE USED. (ammo, food, etc)
It isn't weight - it's TOTAL stacks as seen in ALL category.

Option 2: Mod (requires SFSE start) https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/2830

Remove all your aid items etc except Medpacks. Remove social clothes, remove spacesuits helmets backpacks, remove any weapons you don't have hot-keyed (keep it low like three weapons plus your cutter, don't use Heller's Cutter). Even remove readable items like books etc. Mats are fine as they can't be used.

Game is searching through all your usable items in your bag each weapon swap.

It's how the game has to sift through EVERY SINGLE ITEM YOU CAN POSSIBLY USE THAT'S IN YOUR BAG WHEN YOU SWAP A WEAPON - and this shows most noticeably when you have a ton of useable things like -aid items weapons etc- and then if your bag has a lot of those, specifically when you swap between rare and up weapons (even that Heller's Cutter for some people).

Thank you Angela for the fix ^_^
@ Bethesda / Microsoft / gaming industry - pls do better with "AAA" releases on PC, devs need to prioritize simple box features like FOV, HDR, DLSS.

[UNN Fleet Admiral O'Reilly]

Yeap! This is happening with me too. Annoying bug

[malvonius]

I'm not sure if what I keep reading about this issue is individual "specific" or if there is misinformation about what is actually causing the stutter and lag when switching weapons/opening the scanner. I played for 135 hours and ran into the stutter issues constantly until I removed absolutely every unnecessary thing from my inventory, especially AND including any zero weight items.

I never once had the issue, no matter how many legendary weapons I had hotkeyed once I just made sure my inventory was clear at almost all times. The reason for this, is the every time you swap weapons/open the scanner, the game doesn't just read your weapons, it reads every SINGLE item in your inventory....every time you open the scanner/swap weapons.

Once I realized that was the main cause, the only times I experienced stutter again was when I went full loot goblin and forgot to clear out my inventory, but insta fixed as soon as I dumped everything. This is also why the game has such a super "low" carry weight most likely, so that your average player might not run into that engine limitation causing the stutter.

[Zebedee]

Yeah, I'm seeing it. Hit is maybe 1/3 of my fps so it's a noticeable little judder.

edit: May try to stop being a loot goblin to see if that improves it. More storage needed I guess)

[Fighting Blaze]

This happened to me because my game was on the HD you need to transfer the game to your SSD

[Cally Emeraldaz]

Originally posted by Fighting Blaze:

This happened to me because my game was on the HD you need to transfer the game to your SSD

it does this even if its on your ssd, wont make much of a difference

[Zebedee]

Originally posted by Fighting Blaze:

This happened to me because my game was on the HD you need to transfer the game to your SSD

Game is on a Samsung 980 pro here. Guess again)

[Fighting Blaze]

Originally posted by Cally Emeraldaz:

Originally posted by Fighting Blaze:

This happened to me because my game was on the HD you need to transfer the game to your SSD

it does this even if its on your ssd, wont make much of a difference

Weird doing that fixed it for me.

[Fighting Blaze]

Originally posted by Zebedee:

Originally posted by Fighting Blaze:

This happened to me because my game was on the HD you need to transfer the game to your SSD

Game is on a Samsung 980 pro here. Guess again)

again the stuttering was fixed for me when I switched so? Odd bug for you and not for me.

[Angela]

Reposting what I've posted in previous threads on this issue -

Yep can confirm the number of items in your bag affects length of the freeze. Stacked items count as a single item.

I dumped -everything- ...except equipped gear and social clothes, mats, digipicks, all my legendary etc weapons, ammo, throwables, keys, survey data, current slates for my quests, and medpacks. Down to 382 items (ALL).

No freezes when swapping rare and up weapons. Before it was horrific.

This does need a proper fix however even if we can mitigate their crappy programming by not carrying things.

Basically no wonder they kept containers and carryweight etc so low - they knew they'd messed this up.

[Zebedee]

Originally posted by Fighting Blaze:

Originally posted by Zebedee:

Game is on a Samsung 980 pro here. Guess again)

again the stuttering was fixed for me when I switched so? Odd bug for you and not for me.

Which stuttering? Cos this isn't a wetware problem of not rtfm.)

[Doctor Mantis Toboggan]

Originally posted by Angela:

Reposting what I've posted in previous threads on this issue -

Yep can confirm the number of items in your bag affects length of the freeze. Stacked items count as a single item.

I dumped -everything- ...except equipped gear and social clothes, mats, digipicks, all my legendary etc weapons, ammo, throwables, keys, survey data, current slates for my quests, and medpacks. Down to 382 items (ALL).

No freezes when swapping rare and up weapons. Before it was horrific.

This does need a proper fix however even if we can mitigate their crappy programming by not carrying things.

Basically no wonder they kept containers and carryweight etc so low - they knew they'd messed this up.

Good to know, thanks, will try this tomorrow.

I did the console command to set my carryweight to 5000 (I hate playing inventory manager) so I've definitely hoarded thousands of rounds of ammunition and wine - def could be the culprit then!

[LFP Gaming]

https://youtu.be/1DSAmKICT9w

[Angela]

Originally posted by LFP Gaming:

https://youtu.be/1DSAmKICT9w

^that video shows your issue, fix is (until they properly fix this via patch) remove the total number of items (not mass, the total as seen in ALL).

In your video you can see a ridiculous number of items in your bag. 1621 items in ALL.

I got mine down to 382 items and can swap between rare and up weapons with no lag.

The issue is in the item totals. Then that issue is seen when swapping rare and up weapons, because the derpgame searches whole inventory when you swap weapons and goes through EVERYTHING you have in your bag, instead of being smart about things and simply searching your actual weapons.

[KickAssDave]

This is such an unbelievably stupid bug I amazed that such a studio is considered AAA. It's weird.. but I think there might be a threshold in this. I only say that because one evening, I hadn't had this issue AT ALL.. then suddenly starting noticing it shortly aftering picking up where I left off the day before.

I might test to see if I can find if there is a specific no. of items that causes it.

Why do these companies even think their games warrant the price tag they ask... Most of the ridiculous cost goes in to keeping shareholders happy and marketing.

Even just down to the fact the game was so CLEARLY designed for consoles from the ground up this time (there are countless examples showing this).

This engine should have been replaced years ago, it should never have been the backbone of this game.

**UPDATE**
So I'm now down to 406 items and while it has lessened the freeze, it is still very much present. Continuing to reduce inventory count until it has "stopped". Although, the gradual reduction points to a HORRIBLY INEFFICIENT method being used to allocate your active weapon as this more or less confirms that it is SEQUENTIALLY searching through your inventory each time you switch weapon. This is INSANE :D:D

[UNN Fleet Admiral O'Reilly]

I fixed this bug equipping only gray weapons on my character including the weapons that we use on the favorites menu. I don`t experience any stutter when changing weapons or when opening the scanner now.

My inventory mass has more than 6500 MASS, so my guess it`s not related with the quantity of items in inventory.