i've played every Bethesda game since morrowind and this is criminal

[Digital_Yogurt]

Look. Todd lies to sell ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games. the game is not what was represented. it was salesman hype, and the lie was perpetuated by the industry because Bethesda doesn't put money into development, they put money into smoothing over public relations nightmares and paying off reviewers. They knew they couldn't deliver, and they know Todd has no shame lying about what the game and his team is capable of. This game should have been nothing less than no mans sky with better combat and a deep twisting rpg narrative. Instead its a boring dumpster fire and the fact that large swaths of people who bought this garbage aren't pissed, is absolutely mind blowing. MIND BLOWING. Baldur's gate 3 shows how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lazy these bastards really are and I'm pissed I wasted 70 dollars on it. I don't foresee me buying a single other Bethesda game after fallout 76 and this hunk of ♥♥♥♥.

[shorty10105]

Hell Morrowind was a step back from RPG games all of these Bethesda games have gotten worse and worse over time if anybody here has played Daggerfall they'll know that that was the first and last greatest game they ever made well RPG game that is real RPG game they keep on taking RPG elements now these games are just a hollow shell

[juskom95]

Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

Originally posted by juskom95:

You claim to have played every other Bethesda RPG game, but the only one it looks like you've beaten is Skyrm.

I bet you're one of those trolls who is upset this isn't TESTVI so are spewing hate/garbage.

Cringe post. You're probably too young to remember the disc versions of Morrowind and Oblivion that came with cloth maps of the continent.

Buttercup, I bought the disc version of Fallout when it released.

The OP has hours sunk into Skyrim, but in FO3 & FO4 they only have enough time to have maybe completed the introductory quest, then quit playing. That's an indication they didn't like them, and are one of the group who has been crapping on any game that isn't the next in the TES series.

Save your BS, the adults don't care about you little kids.

[dannyj147]

Try playing for more than 3.5 hours...

[Mister Burkes]

Originally posted by juskom95:

Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

Cringe post. You're probably too young to remember the disc versions of Morrowind and Oblivion that came with cloth maps of the continent.

Buttercup, I bought the disc version of Fallout when it released.

The OP has hours sunk into Skyrim, but in FO4 & FO4 they only have enough time to have maybe completed the introductory quest, then quit playing. That's an indication they didn't like them, and are one of the group who has been crapping on any game that isn't the next in the TES series.

Save your BS, the adults don't care about you little kids.

Woop dee doo. Maybe they played it first on console. You're the one creeping on people's profiles and making judgment calls based on a single platform's library. I still have older titles on Stardock, EA Origin, Ubisoft. Skyrim was the first Bethesda game that was actually Steam exclusive at launch - before Skyrim I had 0 reason to own any games on Steam except for HL2 and CS.

[juskom95]

Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

Originally posted by juskom95:

Buttercup, I bought the disc version of Fallout when it released.

The OP has hours sunk into Skyrim, but in FO4 & FO4 they only have enough time to have maybe completed the introductory quest, then quit playing. That's an indication they didn't like them, and are one of the group who has been crapping on any game that isn't the next in the TES series.

Save your BS, the adults don't care about you little kids.

Woop dee doo. Maybe they played it first on console. You're the one creeping on people's profiles and making judgment calls based on a single platform's library. I still have older titles on Stardock, EA Origin, Ubisoft. Skyrim was the first Bethesda game that was actually Steam exclusive at launch - before Skyrim I had 0 reason to own any games on Steam except for HL2 and CS.

Or, more than likely, you and them are trolls.

[Mister Burkes]

Originally posted by juskom95:

Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

Woop dee doo. Maybe they played it first on console. You're the one creeping on people's profiles and making judgment calls based on a single platform's library. I still have older titles on Stardock, EA Origin, Ubisoft. Skyrim was the first Bethesda game that was actually Steam exclusive at launch - before Skyrim I had 0 reason to own any games on Steam except for HL2 and CS.

Or, more than likely, you and them are trolls.

Ah yes, everyone who disagrees with you must be a troll.

[Mister Burkes]

Ever since Kirkbride left Bethesda (after Oblivion), every Bethesda title has slowly gotten worse, which just proves the legend of Kirkbride.

[Baphled]

I've only played a bit of the game, and I've somehow avoided more or less all of the marketing for it. This has lead to a pretty OK experience.

A lot of decisions Bethesda has made makes me inclined to believe they're more profit driven than quality driven, but that's been their trend since horse armor. Skyrim was a huge hit for them, and the decided to just re-sell it for a while. Then all of the Fallout 76 stuff, which I think a lot of people have forgotten about (it was bad).

They promoted a lot of items for the special edition and ended up giving their biggest fans garbage. Replacing the canvas duffel with a cheap nylon, but also giving influencers the canvas ones in order to promote the game and mislead consumers; their terrible 'nuka dark rum' being in a different container than advertised; and having to stop sales and recall Fallout helmets because of they contained high amounts of mold.


I'm not aware of any weird Starfield controversies at this time. My only complaint is that they're still using their in-house engine (although updated). It's not the most valid complaint, but it's been old and outdated, lead to a lot of weird physics in Skyrim, and people have already found some of the 'vendor chests' that need to exist because of that engine.

[Mukasi]

Originally posted by Digital_Yogurt:

Look. Todd lies to sell ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ games. the game is not what was represented. it was salesman hype, and the lie was perpetuated by the industry because Bethesda doesn't put money into development, they put money into smoothing over public relations nightmares and paying off reviewers. They knew they couldn't deliver, and they know Todd has no shame lying about what the game and his team is capable of. This game should have been nothing less than no mans sky with better combat and a deep twisting rpg narrative. Instead its a boring dumpster fire and the fact that large swaths of people who bought this garbage aren't pissed, is absolutely mind blowing. MIND BLOWING. Baldur's gate 3 shows how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lazy these bastards really are and I'm pissed I wasted 70 dollars on it. I don't foresee me buying a single other Bethesda game after fallout 76 and this hunk of ♥♥♥♥.

while i want to smack you with toilet paper when you start to compare starfield with no mans sky. i have to agree compared to older titles like skyrim or fo4, starfield lacks something.
my biggest guess is: since the "Space" is empty and youre fast travelling from surface a to b, you wont get the same immersion like drifting through skyrim by foot. i cant even tell what planet had what surface anymore. or what planet felt cool or not. idk

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Digital_Yogurt:

i've played every Bethesda game since morrowind and this is criminal

And I"ve played every Bethesda game since Wayne Gretzky Hockey and Elder Scrolls: Arena, and I say you're wrong.

My experience > than yours, so you lose.