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Andestoy Sep 10, 2023 @ 1:42pm
Religion (Spoiler)
Forcibly shoehorning religion into a space odyssey takes you completely out of context, since at those levels of knowledge, science and technology, religions should be completely surpassed.
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Cheallaigh Sep 10, 2023 @ 1:53pm 
there only one actual religion in the game, the other one is more of a philosophy, and what kinda RPG would it be without at least one set of zealots?
Andestoy Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Cheallaigh:
there only one actual religion in the game, the other one is more of a philosophy, and what kinda RPG would it be without at least one set of zealots?

A space roll game?
Spooky Bunyip Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:05pm 
A lot of sci-fi settings have religion.
Cheallaigh Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:09pm 
Originally posted by Vílchez:
Originally posted by Cheallaigh:
there only one actual religion in the game, the other one is more of a philosophy, and what kinda RPG would it be without at least one set of zealots?

A space roll game?
let's see.. since pretty much the dawn of man, we have had religions for better or worse, you really think we're just going to suddenly drop it? really? there are scientists who are devout believers in religions right now, they have found a way to make it work for themselves. in 300 years religion won't be gone, it's pretty much in the nature of humanity.
Andestoy Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by Cheallaigh:
Originally posted by Vílchez:

A space roll game?
let's see.. since pretty much the dawn of man, we have had religions for better or worse, you really think we're just going to suddenly drop it? really? there are scientists who are devout believers in religions right now, they have found a way to make it work for themselves. in 300 years religion won't be gone, it's pretty much in the nature of humanity.


I repeat, it should be something residual. Knowledge like progress is exponential, do not underestimate it.
Greetings
Palladin888 Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:28pm 
I can not ever remember any game that did not have some kind of religion in it.
kitsune87 Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:29pm 
Originally posted by Vílchez:
Originally posted by Cheallaigh:
let's see.. since pretty much the dawn of man, we have had religions for better or worse, you really think we're just going to suddenly drop it? really? there are scientists who are devout believers in religions right now, they have found a way to make it work for themselves. in 300 years religion won't be gone, it's pretty much in the nature of humanity.


I repeat, it should be something residual. Knowledge like progress is exponential, do not underestimate it.
Greetings
No, no it isn't.
I find it more immersion breaking that all of Earth's faiths died out, to be honest.

You're telling me that in only 3 centuries all major sects of Christianity died out? That the Jewish people of all types gave up their faith that is part and parcel of their identity? That all followers of Islam abandoned the core principles of their faith and to convert all? That Buddhism and Hinduism died out despite being the most widely practiced religions on earth in its most populous nations? I don't buy it.
At most I could believe more localized religions like Mormonism and Shinto dying out, alongside Catholicism due to a collapse of the clergy, but bigger faiths? ♥♥♥♥ no, those would at least still be around in some way, shape, or form.

The lack of old world religion in the game is just a case of lazy world building, same with the levitation act 2.0 (mech edition) and the lack of pets and earth wildlife being brought across the stars.
Last edited by Toyosatomimi no Miko; Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:38pm
Andestoy Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by kitsune87:
Originally posted by Vílchez:


I repeat, it should be something residual. Knowledge like progress is exponential, do not underestimate it.
Greetings
No, no it isn't.

Industrial revolution, end of the 19th century, look back and look forward.
And all thanks to religions (Irony)
Iratus Machina Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:40pm 
The Expanse has space Mormons. One of the crewmates in Firefly is a priest. Wing Commander Privateer has a faction of crazed religious zealots. Pretty sure religious people show up in a number of Star Trek series one way or another. Religion tends to show up in sci-fi.
kitsune87 Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Vílchez:
Originally posted by kitsune87:
No, no it isn't.

Industrial revolution, end of the 19th century, look back and look forward.
And all thanks to religions (Irony)
The industrial Rev had nothing to do with Religion. Humans are prone to religion, prone to find meaning in life. Even if you erased the concept of deities from everyones minds right now, we would just create a new religion.
Andestoy Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Toyosatomimi no Miko:
I find it more immersion breaking that all of Earth's faiths died out, to be honest.

You're telling me that in only 3 centuries all major sects of Christianity died out? That the Jewish people of all types gave up their faith that is part and parcel of their identity? That all followers of Islam abandoned the core principles of their faith and to convert all? That Buddhism and Hinduism died out despite being the most widely practiced religions on earth in its most populous nations? I don't buy it.
At most I could believe more localized religions like Mormonism and Shinto dying out, alongside Catholicism due to a collapse of the clergy, but bigger faiths? ♥♥♥♥ no, those would at least still be around in some way, shape, or form.

The lack of old world religion in the game is just a case of lazy world building, same with the levitation act 2.0 (mech edition) and the lack of pets and earth wildlife being brought across the stars.

No, I'm telling you that there are other arguments.
trtab Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by Vílchez:
Forcibly shoehorning religion into a space odyssey takes you completely out of context, since at those levels of knowledge, science and technology, religions should be completely surpassed.

If thats the case, and you want the game to be realistic, then does the game offer an answer as to where everything came from?

No.

The universe either magically appeared from nothing, or it was created.

So when you find a game that answers that question, then I'll believe your drivel about religion dying out.
Last edited by trtab; Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:42pm
fauxpas Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by Toyosatomimi no Miko:
I find it more immersion breaking that all of Earth's faiths died out, to be honest.

You're telling me that in only 3 centuries all major sects of Christianity died out? That the Jewish people of all types gave up their faith that is part and parcel of their identity? That all followers of Islam abandoned the core principles of their faith and to convert all? That Buddhism and Hinduism died out despite being the most widely practiced religions on earth in its most populous nations? I don't buy it.
At most I could believe more localized religions like Mormonism and Shinto dying out, alongside Catholicism due to a collapse of the clergy, but bigger faiths? ♥♥♥♥ no, those would at least still be around in some way, shape, or form.

The lack of old world religion in the game is just a case of lazy world building, same with the levitation act 2.0 (mech edition) and the lack of pets and earth wildlife being brought across the stars.


I personally didn't want the decs touching on real world faiths; both because it's difficult fir even good writers to handle the multitude of faiths with the respect each deserves plus it would just cause fighting even if done well.

Also honestly after Earth is gone, most of humanity dead (whatever the lore might say six sparsely settled systems and major cities that barely qualify as small towns means the evacuation of Earth didn't go as well as the UC would like us to believe) I do believe religions would evolve and perhaps consolidate.
Last edited by fauxpas; Sep 10, 2023 @ 2:56pm
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