According to Steamcharts, Starfield is completely losing out to Baldur's Gate 3.

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Here's the number of current players and peak all-time players for both games.

SF: https://steamcharts.com/app/1716740
BG3: https://steamcharts.com/app/1086940

BG3 has nearly 100K more current players (40% higher) than SF does, and we are talking about a game here that was released more than a month ago. BD3's peak was 800k players whereas Starfield only has a peak of 260k players. Do note a game's peak is usually within a week of its release.

As you can see, Bethesda isnt doing too well here. However, one factor to consider is that SF is also on Gamepass so the stats here may not be fully accurate. However, even under the assumption Gamepass players were equal to Steam players count, there's no way SF's peak player count could have ever surpassed BD3 at all. 800k vs 260k is absolutely massive in differential scale

[John_Doe]

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*yawn* Pretty late to the party, aren't we? 2 things: there is a world outside of Steam and freeloaders exist (Gamepass). Meanwhile official figures: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/3824174193413980123/

https://www.glitched.online/baldurs-gate-3-sales-top-5-2-million-on-steam-massive-ps5-launch-expected/

"The game sold 5.2 million copies on the PC Steam platform, with over 870,000 users online simultaneously and a positive rating of 94.3%."

Note that's just on STEAM platform. It doesn't include the PS5 for example. Dream on. 🤣

PS5? Are u ok?

[MancSoulja]

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GamePass alone brings in double Steam's revenue.

Google is your friend, spoiler alert, that's false.

OK, not quite twice as much...

[LupisVolk]

This just in, two completely different games have different fan bases and sale base, the weather at 9.

[sadegmike]

bro we get it you don't like the game find something else to play or simply play BG3 no one is forcing you to buy StarField

[Ultrabot]

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70 X 260k is around 18.2 million. I have no idea how many people own the game, but based on the steam peak alone - they're making millions.

They've made more than enough money, where are the patches?

This game cost $370m to $540m to develop and market, so no.

Doesn't quite work that way, especially with sponsorship ect. Running costs. The peak only tells you how many played at once, not how many have purchased. Then you have Xbox, gamepass.

They're making a lot of money. This isn't some struggling indie.

Patches, please :-)

[Witski]

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No steam numbers are not accurate since it doesn't count offline people, chinese version of steam, it doesn't count internet caffe's ( same applies to xbox ) .
So what accurate numbers you want to put in a statistic when 80% of the information needed is not here?

Bro wtf are you smoking? You are the one here cherrypicking and adding extra numbers from extra platforms that were NEVER counted in the standard measurement to begin with.

Do you not know how to do statistics or what lol. How am I even talking to someone this dense.

Chinese steam? Internet cafes? Pirated copies? Who cares??? steamcharts.com NEVER included these to begin with. You want to make a comparison, you compare based on the existing variables. NOT add in your own extra sources that were never counted in the first place.

And now im cherrypicking? When you don't want to make a complete and reasonable statistic because you must have to say your negative crap over the forum today, isn't it?
Just be honest and say you are here to trow shadows only.
Of course it never include those things to begin with, since relies on steam spy and being online and that what's makes it unreliable if you want to make " accurate " statistics.

[Angel666]

This game is gone probley help balders gate 3 sell more games.

I know friends who own both games.

Game reviewers streamers etc everyone says baldsrs gate is superior better game.

Inless you live under a stone your notice this and I'm guessing this increase there sales.

[minisith]

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Here's the number of current players and peak all-time players for both games.

SF: https://steamcharts.com/app/1716740
BG3: https://steamcharts.com/app/1086940

BG3 has nearly 100K more current players (40% higher) than SF does, and we are talking about a game here that was released more than a month ago. BD3's peak was 800k players whereas Starfield only has a peak of 260k players. Do note a game's peak is usually within a week of its release.

As you can see, Bethesda isnt doing too well here. However, one factor to consider is that SF is also on Gamepass so the stats here may not be fully accurate. However, even under the assumption Gamepass players were equal to Steam players count, there's no way SF's peak player count could have ever surpassed BD3 at all. 800k vs 260k is absolutely massive in differential scale

BG3 is losing out to Minecraft nerd!

[KingOfFriedChicken]

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*yawn* Pretty late to the party, aren't we? 2 things: there is a world outside of Steam and freeloaders exist (Gamepass). Meanwhile official figures: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/3824174193413980123/

How is gamepass freeloading? It's literally a paid for service lol

[Honyakusha]

So? I really don't get people like who ♥♥♥♥ on one game then jerk on other. Both are good game, you can play both depending on your mood and be happy. People getting crazy about numbers and acting like cult members which is a wild thing. Don't get damned crazy, calm down, nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ unless they're ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up in head like you. Chill ffs.

[Ðσռฬєєđσシ]

wie dämlich du bist, was habe die beiden games gemeinsam, sind doch komplett andere
genres

[Amplifier]

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Bro wtf are you smoking? You are the one here cherrypicking and adding extra numbers from extra platforms that were NEVER counted in the standard measurement to begin with.

Do you not know how to do statistics or what lol. How am I even talking to someone this dense.

Chinese steam? Internet cafes? Pirated copies? Who cares??? steamcharts.com NEVER included these to begin with. You want to make a comparison, you compare based on the existing variables. NOT add in your own extra sources that were never counted in the first place.

And now im cherrypicking? When you don't want to make a complete and reasonable statistic because you must have to say your negative crap over the forum today, isn't it?
Just be honest and say you are here to trow shadows only.
Of course it never include those things to begin with, since relies on steam spy and being online and that what's makes it unreliable if you want to make " accurate " statistics.

I'm using Steamcharts for BOTH games equally to measure the stats.

You here are using:
- For BD3: Steamcharts
- For Starfield: Steamcharts + xbox + chinese market + internet cafes (wtf nonsense is this lmao do you even know what internet cafe games usually are) + pirated copies + donkey black market purchases or whatever else.

Are you stupid or something? I'm sure the Chinese government would love to hire you for wonderful data manipulation

[Anticitizen 1]

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This game cost $370m to $540m to develop and market, so no.

Doesn't quite work that way, especially with sponsorship ect. Running costs. The peak only tells you how many played at once, not how many have purchased. Then you have Xbox, gamepass.

They're making a lot of money. This isn't some struggling indie.

Patches, please :-)

They are not making money until the revenue has exceeded the cost which it hasn't even with the most optimistic estimates. It might get there one day but not today.

[Zyrconia]

Being second is still great....

The two games are not comparable anyway, even though both are RPGs. But BG3 is a hardcore systems intensive RPG (probably a bit even intimidating for some) while Starfield is a classical mega light Bethesda RPG.

I actually avoided BG3, scared of the length and amount of time spent talking. And now I got a probably equally long game, brimming with content, where 80% of the time is spent talking. So... More similar from some points of view.

This probably the biggest (not size, which is, but amount of content) Bethesda game, and depending on what you like, it is the best Bethesda game. I'm sure it will have longevity.

And when the moding starts...

[76561198292722533]

Even if there are no statistics we can reasonably point out that Starfield players on Steam are:
1. Players who ignored the Gamepass option.
2. Players who do not wait lower prices in the future.
3. Players who don't wait more feedback and reviews on the game.
4. Streamers who received a key for free.

While for Baldur's Gate 3 there is no Gamepass option, the reviews and feedback on the game are unanimous and extremely positive, remains:
1. Players who don't wait lower prices in the future.
2. Players who are still playing the game or have purchased it more recently so it's still their first play.
3. Probably still a lot of active free keys for streamers which is a central point of BG3's marketing.

Yes BG3 is a big success for the genre of game it covers, however Starfield's Steam figures are still very good if we take into account the context, it is very reasonable to doubt that if BG3 was on Gamepass it would achieve better on Steam than Starfield currently.