RTX 4080 can only run the game at 30FPS at 4K

[master.yoda99]

On my RTX 4080, the game is only running at 30FPS at 4k ultra setting. My CPU is Intel i5 13600k, with 64GB DDR5 RAM and the game is installed in Gigabyte AORUS NVMe PCIE SSD. I just built this new PC a few months ago and it is a beefy build.

But even with the DLSS3 and FG mod, at the 4k ultra setting the game still can't reach 60FPS. This is bad optimisation. In Hogwarts Legacy, even if I turn on Ray Tracing to the max, with DLSS and FG my RTX 4080 could easily do 80FPS at 4K ultra setting. And the graphics in this game is not better than Hogwarts Legacy. Not to mention Starfield doesn't even have Ray Tracing.

Starfield's performance is much worse than other major titles of 2023 with thirsty graphics card demand like RE4, The Last of US part 1 and Jedi Survivor (and these games don't have DLSS and my RTX 4080 could still do 60-80 FPS easily). And to be honest, while the graphics in Starfield aren't bad, but it is on the same level as those other major titles of 2023. So there is no reason for this game to be so demanding on the hardware. This game is so poorly optimized and I completely disagree with Todd's remark that people have to upgrade their PC. Because my gaming PC is definitely upper tier by 2023 standard.

So far I think Starfield is fun but the technical aspect of the game is p*ss poor. But the studio's response to the criticism on performance is bogus. This needs to be addressed!

[upsetkiller]

Автор сообщения: master.yoda99

On my RTX 4080, the game is only running at 30FPS at 4k ultra setting. My CPU is Intel i5 13600k, with 64GB DDR5 RAM and the game is installed in Gigabyte AORUS NVMe PCIE SSD. I just built this new PC a few months ago and it is a beefy build.

But even with the DLSS3 and FG mod, at the 4k ultra setting the game still can't reach 60FPS. This is bad optimisation. In Hogwarts Legacy, even if I turn on Ray Tracing to the max, with DLSS and FG my RTX 4080 could easily do 80FPS at 4K ultra setting. And the graphics in this game is not better than Hogwarts Legacy. Not to mention Starfield doesn't even have Ray Tracing.

Starfield's performance is much worse than other major titles of 2023 with thirsty graphics card demand like RE4, The Last of US part 1 and Jedi Survivor (and these games don't have DLSS and my RTX 4080 could still do 60-80 FPS easily). And to be honest, while the graphics in Starfield aren't bad, but it is on the same level as those other major titles of 2023. So there is no reason for this game to be so demanding on the hardware. This game is so poorly optimized and I completely disagree with Todd's remark that people have to upgrade their PC. Because my gaming PC is definitely upper tier by 2023 standard.

So far I think Starfield is fun but the technical aspect of the game is p*ss poor. But the studio's response to the criticism on performance is bogus. This needs to be addressed!

Bethesda is incompetent lol, look at todd howards response on optimisation acting like starfield is some technical marvel 😂 whem no mans sky did everything starfield wishes to do years ago and so did elite dangerous.

[Gisborne]

Автор сообщения: (A2M) Metal Sophear Solid

Автор сообщения: Gisborne

It's not, Right now I have 100+ fps, 99% GPU usage on my 4080 and 355 usage on my 13700k.

Go to akila...

Ok i will.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Автор сообщения: Zalzany

Автор сообщения: (A2M) Metal Sophear Solid

My sdd is 7000mbps. Run cyberpunk just fine maxed (including ray tracing).

Then its probally you PSU or you didn't optimize your rig sigh. Also rated at and running at are not the same sigh. Thisis why I benchmark and optimize my pc, half the people complaining if they did it would find their pc in the ass end of the benchmarks for there parts but at least they normally give tips on how to optimize it.

Yeah, my psu is making the game run like ♥♥♥♥ in cities. Now I've heard everything.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Автор сообщения: Gisborne

Автор сообщения: (A2M) Metal Sophear Solid

Go to akila...

Ok i will.

Don't forget to take screenshots.

[Dixon Sider]

If you continue to buy the 90 series cards, you can sell your previous cards and it ends up being like $500 per year.

[DaDonik[GER]]

You bought a CPU with 6 performance cores and 8 efficiency cores.
Apparently they had to sacrifice something to make these cores efficient.

The good thing: At least it lags while being efficient :D

[master.yoda99]

Автор сообщения: Get Some!

Автор сообщения: master.yoda99

On my RTX 4080, the game is only running at 30FPS at 4k ultra setting. My CPU is Intel i5 13600k, with 64GB DDR5 RAM and the game is installed in Gigabyte AORUS NVMe PCIE SSD. I just built this new PC a few months ago and it is a beefy build.

But even with the DLSS3 and FG mod, at the 4k ultra setting the game still can't reach 60FPS. This is bad optimisation. In Hogwarts Legacy, even if I turn on Ray Tracing to the max, with DLSS and FG my RTX 4080 could easily do 80FPS at 4K ultra setting. And the graphics in this game is not better than Hogwarts Legacy. Not to mention Starfield doesn't even have Ray Tracing.

Starfield's performance is much worse than other major titles of 2023 with thirsty graphics card demand like RE4, The Last of US part 1 and Jedi Survivor (and these games don't have DLSS and my RTX 4080 could still do 60-80 FPS easily). And to be honest, while the graphics in Starfield aren't bad, but it is on the same level as those other major titles of 2023. So there is no reason for this game to be so demanding on the hardware. This game is so poorly optimized and I completely disagree with Todd's remark that people have to upgrade their PC. Because my gaming PC is definitely upper tier by 2023 standard.

So far I think Starfield is fun but the technical aspect of the game is p*ss poor. But the studio's response to the criticism on performance is bogus. This needs to be addressed!

Is your monitor/tv capable of 4k @ over 30hz? I know on my Acer screen if I use HDMI it's capped at 30hz for 4k, display port @ 60hz

I have a 4K TV capable of 4K @120HZ. The display is not the issue. Also other people suggested 4090 is needed for 4K gaming and that is bogus. Those people who say 4080 is "mid card" or "cheap card' clearly don't know what they are talking about. Or they are just saying it to defend a poorly optimised game.

This game is poorly optimised period. I have turned the resolution scaling to 77% and at New Atlantis the FPS is slightly above 50FPS. At Neon City the FPS is higher at around 75 to 90 FPS. This is poor performance because I just bench tested The Last of US where native 4K ultra setting can run anywhere between 70-90FPS (and The Last of US is supposed to be broken!). RE4 is even higher FPS. Not to mention the graphics in those two games are just as good as Starfield.

That's the thing with most AAA games in 2023, even if you use the newest high end card like 4080, none of them can run native 4K resolution at 60FPS without using the scaling technology like DLSS or FSR. These AAA studios are not optimising the games properly before release. But I bet you Lies of P and Lords of Fallen will be able to run native 4k resolution at 60FPS on older generation high cards like 3080 and the graphics will look just as good as these AAA games. Those two games will give these AAA studios a run for their money and hopefully it will push these AAA gaming studios to better optimising their games in the future.

[Gisborne]

Автор сообщения: Dixon Sider

If you continue to buy the 90 series cards, you can sell your previous cards and it ends up being like $500 per year.

form my experience 90 cards ar emuch harder to sell second hand as their value is less compaired to much newer tech on new cards for lesser price, 4080 and 4090 are almost same fps per dollar. but if someone if going to spend 4090 2nd hand price they may as well just get the new 80 series.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Автор сообщения: master.yoda99

Автор сообщения: Get Some!

Is your monitor/tv capable of 4k @ over 30hz? I know on my Acer screen if I use HDMI it's capped at 30hz for 4k, display port @ 60hz

I have a 4K TV capable of 4K @120HZ. The display is not the issue. Also other people suggested 4090 is needed for 4K gaming and that is bogus. Those people who say 4080 is "mid card" or "cheap card' clearly don't know what they are talking about. Or they are just saying it to defend a poorly optimised game.

This game is poorly optimised period. I have turned the resolution scaling to 77% and at New Atlantis the FPS is slightly above 50FPS. At Neon City the FPS is higher at around 75 to 90 FPS. This is poor performance because I just bench tested The Last of US where native 4K ultra setting can run anywhere between 70-90FPS (and The Last of US is supposed to be broken!). RE4 is even higher FPS. Not to mention the graphics in those two games are just as good as Starfield.

That's the thing with most AAA games in 2023, even if you use high end card like 4080, none of them can run native 4K resolution at 60FPS without using the scaling technology. These AAA studios are not optimising the games properly before release. But I bet you Lies of P and Lords of Fallen will be able to run native 4k resolution at 60FPS on older generation high cards like 3080 and the graphics will look just as good as these AAA games. Those two games will give these AAA studios a run for their money and hopefully it will push these AAA gaming studios to better optimising their games in the future.

I mean it is worse than a 4090 when you take performance per dollar into consideration, by quite a large margin too I might add.

[PawgaliciouS QueeN]

Автор сообщения: Zalzany

Автор сообщения: (A2M) Metal Sophear Solid

My sdd is 7000mbps. Run cyberpunk just fine maxed (including ray tracing).

Then its probally you PSU or you didn't optimize your rig sigh. Also rated at and running at are not the same sigh. Thisis why I benchmark and optimize my pc, half the people complaining if they did it would find their pc in the ass end of the benchmarks for there parts but at least they normally give tips on how to optimize it.

I seen so many bad builds and it could be anything I had a cousin I had to save his build he had too strong of ramn his mobo couldn't run it so rant it on 1 channell taking out half his ram more then doubled his performance beause the damn thing was running at 1/3 power. Another common issue is mobo is meh or one parts is failing a common one to go out no one suspects is the PSU sigh.

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/

Mine is this: https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-Platinum-Modular-SST-HA1200R-PM/dp/B0BKQZJ3QK?th=1

Literally top of the line.

[DOOMed]

Автор сообщения: master.yoda99

Автор сообщения: Get Some!

Is your monitor/tv capable of 4k @ over 30hz? I know on my Acer screen if I use HDMI it's capped at 30hz for 4k, display port @ 60hz

I have a 4K TV capable of 4K @120HZ. The display is not the issue. Also other people suggested 4090 is needed for 4K gaming and that is bogus. Those people who say 4080 is "mid card" or "cheap card' clearly don't know what they are talking about. Or they are just saying it to defend a poorly optimised game.

This game is poorly optimised period. I have turned the resolution scaling to 77% and at New Atlantis the FPS is slightly above 50FPS. At Neon City the FPS is higher at around 75 to 90 FPS. This is poor performance because I just bench tested The Last of US where native 4K ultra setting can run anywhere between 70-90FPS (and The Last of US is supposed to be broken!). RE4 is even higher FPS. Not to mention the graphics in those two games are just as good as Starfield.

That's the thing with most AAA games in 2023, even if you use the newest high end card like 4080, none of them can run native 4K resolution at 60FPS without using the scaling technology like DLSS or FSR. These AAA studios are not optimising the games properly before release. But I bet you Lies of P and Lords of Fallen will be able to run native 4k resolution at 60FPS on older generation high cards like 3080 and the graphics will look just as good as these AAA games. Those two games will give these AAA studios a run for their money and hopefully it will push these AAA gaming studios to better optimising their games in the future.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1716740/discussions/0/3824174193419396115/

Yeah I know you need DLSS or FSR for 4k in most games...

[master.yoda99]

Автор сообщения: upsetkiller

Автор сообщения: master.yoda99

On my RTX 4080, the game is only running at 30FPS at 4k ultra setting. My CPU is Intel i5 13600k, with 64GB DDR5 RAM and the game is installed in Gigabyte AORUS NVMe PCIE SSD. I just built this new PC a few months ago and it is a beefy build.

But even with the DLSS3 and FG mod, at the 4k ultra setting the game still can't reach 60FPS. This is bad optimisation. In Hogwarts Legacy, even if I turn on Ray Tracing to the max, with DLSS and FG my RTX 4080 could easily do 80FPS at 4K ultra setting. And the graphics in this game is not better than Hogwarts Legacy. Not to mention Starfield doesn't even have Ray Tracing.

Starfield's performance is much worse than other major titles of 2023 with thirsty graphics card demand like RE4, The Last of US part 1 and Jedi Survivor (and these games don't have DLSS and my RTX 4080 could still do 60-80 FPS easily). And to be honest, while the graphics in Starfield aren't bad, but it is on the same level as those other major titles of 2023. So there is no reason for this game to be so demanding on the hardware. This game is so poorly optimized and I completely disagree with Todd's remark that people have to upgrade their PC. Because my gaming PC is definitely upper tier by 2023 standard.

So far I think Starfield is fun but the technical aspect of the game is p*ss poor. But the studio's response to the criticism on performance is bogus. This needs to be addressed!

Bethesda is incompetent lol, look at todd howards response on optimisation acting like starfield is some technical marvel 😂 whem no mans sky did everything starfield wishes to do years ago and so did elite dangerous.

Unfortunately it is not just Bethesda. I don't know if you noticed but a lot of major AAA releases this year all have performance issues. Hogwarts Legacy and Jedi Survivor all had performance issues. Even on RTX4080, a lot of AAA games this year can't get a steady 60FPS at 4K without using scaling technology like DLSS or FSR. So these AAA gaming studios are obviously not doing their jobs properly. It feels like these major gaming studios are just lazy and not optimising the games. I am hoping Lies of P and Lords of Fallen will be different and buck the trend.

[AntonioKingsley]

I'm gonna need you to actually look at your equipment before posting stuff like this. Your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STUCK AT 30 FPS GENIUS!!

[Gisborne]

Автор сообщения: (A2M) Metal Sophear Solid

Автор сообщения: Gisborne

Ok i will.

Don't forget to take screenshots.

Here is a Video, 1440p, Ultra.

https://youtu.be/5IoodK8E5Lw

[DOOMed]

Автор сообщения: master.yoda99

Автор сообщения: Get Some!

Is your monitor/tv capable of 4k @ over 30hz? I know on my Acer screen if I use HDMI it's capped at 30hz for 4k, display port @ 60hz

I have a 4K TV capable of 4K @120HZ. The display is not the issue. Also other people suggested 4090 is needed for 4K gaming and that is bogus. Those people who say 4080 is "mid card" or "cheap card' clearly don't know what they are talking about. Or they are just saying it to defend a poorly optimised game.

This game is poorly optimised period. I have turned the resolution scaling to 77% and at New Atlantis the FPS is slightly above 50FPS. At Neon City the FPS is higher at around 75 to 90 FPS. This is poor performance because I just bench tested The Last of US where native 4K ultra setting can run anywhere between 70-90FPS (and The Last of US is supposed to be broken!). RE4 is even higher FPS. Not to mention the graphics in those two games are just as good as Starfield.

That's the thing with most AAA games in 2023, even if you use the newest high end card like 4080, none of them can run native 4K resolution at 60FPS without using the scaling technology like DLSS or FSR. These AAA studios are not optimising the games properly before release. But I bet you Lies of P and Lords of Fallen will be able to run native 4k resolution at 60FPS on older generation high cards like 3080 and the graphics will look just as good as these AAA games. Those two games will give these AAA studios a run for their money and hopefully it will push these AAA gaming studios to better optimising their games in the future.

Yeah, DLSS and FSR were pretty much made so they could advertise these cards as 4k capable. It won't be until a few more generations that you start seeing 4k native as a serious thing. Of course by then, Nvida & AMD will be hawking their cards as 8k capable (using whatever upscaling they have at that point).