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Warren1986 Sep 7, 2023 @ 2:34pm
High CPU Temps
Hi all,

just wanted to get a bit of advice, this is aimed at people who are using Ryzen 9 7950x with a 4090 with game settings at max

my GPU utilisation is 90%+, GPU temps stay below 65, got no issue with what so ever, i mean the fans are not even going at 60% speed.

but my CPU, while i'm on my ship is hitting about 50% / just under utilisation, temps are hitting about 75, again while on my ship, i know the Ryzen 9 is known for getting toasty but in all honesty I've never seen my CPU go about 65 when playing games from the last couple of years

playing any other game like cyber punk or baldurs gate etc my CPU temps hover around about 65

is this a consistent thing with other users of these two pieces of hardware when playing starfield ?


Currently in the UK and having some hot weather atm so that might not be helping etc

Full specs:
ROG Hero X670e
Ryzen 9 7950x - Water Cooled AIO 360 rad
Gigabyte 4090
DDR5 Kingston fury 6000hz
Firecuda 530 M.2 2tb

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated :)
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ZombieHunter Sep 7, 2023 @ 2:44pm 
75 is getting toasty. You probably don't want to go over 65 to 67 under load. Is it throttling on you?

Make sure your case ventilation is good. As in nothing blocking incoming air and make sure it is clean and free of dust. I'm not familiar with that AIO but is it a 3 fan? Are you pulling it or pushing with it? How many intakes and how many exhausts? And where is the AIO mounted? If you mount it wrong you can get air bubbles in it and it starts cavitating instead of cooling.

There are some good system builder sites that will show you various setups and what the advantages and disadvantages of each are. There isn't really a perfect setup and it depends on the type of case you have and its layout as to which one you choose.

I feel your pain though. It took a lot of work for me to get my R7 5800x cooling the way I want it to. Moreso than any other build I've done.

You can also download Ryzen Master which will help figure out what is going on. Make sure your room has airflow in it. It could just be the ambient air is heating up and your system begins to draw in ever warmer and warmer air.

BTW that is a really nice system. That Hero board is not cheap. I'm running a ROG Strix and almost bought that hero board but it was pretty expensive at the time. I hope you figure it out. Your computer should eat this game alive and ask for seconds honestly.
Last edited by ZombieHunter; Sep 7, 2023 @ 2:49pm
Warren1986 Sep 7, 2023 @ 2:51pm 
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
75 is getting toasty. You probably don't want to go over 65 to 67 under load. Is it throttling on you?

Make sure your case ventilation is good. As in nothing blocking incoming air and make sure it is clean and free of dust. I'm not familiar with that AIO but is it a 3 fan? Are you pulling it or pushing with it? How many intakes and how many exhausts? And where is the AIO mounted? If you mount it wrong you can get air bubbles in it and it starts cavitating instead of cooling.

There are some good system builder sites that will show you various setups and what the advantages and disadvantages of each are. There isn't really a perfect setup and it depends on the type of case you have and its layout as to which one you choose.


im useing the ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 cpu cooler, Phanteks NV7 Case, 3 fans on the bottom pulling in but they are directly under my GPU, and 3 fans on the side pulling in, the cpu cooler rad is at the top of the case with the tubes on the left side, thats pulling air out, no fans on the back
ZombieHunter Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by Warren1986:
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
75 is getting toasty. You probably don't want to go over 65 to 67 under load. Is it throttling on you?

Make sure your case ventilation is good. As in nothing blocking incoming air and make sure it is clean and free of dust. I'm not familiar with that AIO but is it a 3 fan? Are you pulling it or pushing with it? How many intakes and how many exhausts? And where is the AIO mounted? If you mount it wrong you can get air bubbles in it and it starts cavitating instead of cooling.

There are some good system builder sites that will show you various setups and what the advantages and disadvantages of each are. There isn't really a perfect setup and it depends on the type of case you have and its layout as to which one you choose.


im useing the ASUS ROG Ryujin II 360 cpu cooler, Phanteks NV7 Case, 3 fans on the bottom pulling in but they are directly under my GPU, and 3 fans on the side pulling in, the cpu cooler rad is at the top of the case with the tubes on the left side, thats pulling air out, no fans on the back
Hmm the fans on the top seem a bit suspect. It is better if you pull in for the CPU cooler. If I were you I would try to pull in from the top and shove it all out the back. You are currently in a negative pressure setup since you have more pulling than pushing. It is possible you are too negative (doubtful) and the air isn't escaping fast enough off the AIO up top. Also you are going to be pushing warm air across that after it has traveled through the case. So you are trying to cool the CPU with warmer ambient air than if you pulled the air in from the top.

So like I said I would try to pull in from the top, keep your pull at the bottom and side and then push out the back. Right now you have 6 fans pulling in and 3 fans pushing out. But the 3 fans pushing out is your AIO and you want that pulling in. I know it sounds dumb to pull in from the top when hot air rises but b/c of the way the AIO works it is better to pull cool ambient air through the radiator. You are probably pushing warmer and warmer ambient case air over the radiator which is making it difficult to cool the CPU. This setup I'm recommending is extremely negative but it might work. If you can get more fans exhausting out the back then you can balance the 9 that will be pulling in.
Last edited by ZombieHunter; Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:07pm
gatto_nero Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:04pm 
75 is nothing to this cpu - trust me
ZombieHunter Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by gatto_nero:
75 is nothing to this cpu - trust me
IMO, on water cooling that is too warm.
Last edited by ZombieHunter; Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:05pm
failsafe Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:34pm 
75c is normal for newer AMD and Intel chips.

Gamers Nexus 7950x review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaJXZMOMPU

Hardware Unboxed 7950x review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjrkWRTMu64
Caduryn Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
Originally posted by gatto_nero:
75 is nothing to this cpu - trust me
IMO, on water cooling that is too warm.
Trash water cooling then.... my CPU never goes above 70°c ... air cooled
Danyel Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:38pm 
Doesn't help that the optimization in this game sucks like a potato even though some users would have you believe the potato is your PC....
Gamefever Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:51pm 
OP,
I think you have too many intake fans and only one fan pushing the air out.
Think about it, your air in the case is not really being forced out quickly enough from the sound of it.
Other than that, it is a case with 2 glass panels.
I rolled CPU and GPU with Liquid AIO on mine.

My Ryjiin II actually is set for blowing air out,
Air comes in at basement, blows past GPU, CPU, and out the top or back panel.
It is likely toasty up there but my CPU is about ~50C, so its working.
Also my Computer does heat up the room quite a bit, enough that using normal AC is not enough when doing gaming that needs a lot of power right. So I have a portable AC in the room I turn it on sometimes.

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I know for fact the GPU can withstand temps of about ~103C topped out, and the intel CPU's can handle up into the same high range but wouldnt want to have them up there unless I was throwing a high overclock on there.
Mostly run mine real cool, but if I had to pick a spot to worry an ache over an intel CPU it would start at about consistent 90+C.

Got no idea how hot AMD CPU's can operate at though.

Anyway,

Consider flipping your Ryjiin II so it blows the air up and out of the case, it would be better if you could mount it on a side rack though but it does not look like an option.
So the real problem is since your GPU might not be on AIO, well all that hot air from the GPU is waiting its turn to move through a single exit fan.

Best of luck.
Last edited by Gamefever; Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:56pm
Warren1986 Sep 7, 2023 @ 3:56pm 
just a quick update, i was useing the CPU straight from box, so manual adjustments etc

just undervolted it to 1.1 and set the clock speed to 4800, and its actually running better than before, currently in space atm and my temps are not even hitting 50
STOPchris Dec 21, 2023 @ 9:40pm 
The lack of knowledge in this thread is absolutely hilarious!
Gravity 🌌 Dec 22, 2023 @ 3:49am 
As long as the CPU isn't bottlenecking the game, you should be fine. If it is just increase you GPU settings to take some load off your CPU.
Silverlight Dec 22, 2023 @ 3:51am 
Originally posted by Warren1986:
just a quick update, i was useing the CPU straight from box, so manual adjustments etc

just undervolted it to 1.1 and set the clock speed to 4800, and its actually running better than before, currently in space atm and my temps are not even hitting 50
Instead of specifically underclocking you could try curve optimizing.

Look into it.
FeilDOW Dec 22, 2023 @ 3:55am 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with 75°c.
Cyg (Banned) Dec 22, 2023 @ 4:01am 
Originally posted by ZombieHunter:
75 is getting toasty. You probably don't want to go over 65 to 67 under load. Is it throttling on you?

Make sure your case ventilation is good. As in nothing blocking incoming air and make sure it is clean and free of dust. I'm not familiar with that AIO but is it a 3 fan? Are you pulling it or pushing with it? How many intakes and how many exhausts? And where is the AIO mounted? If you mount it wrong you can get air bubbles in it and it starts cavitating instead of cooling.

There are some good system builder sites that will show you various setups and what the advantages and disadvantages of each are. There isn't really a perfect setup and it depends on the type of case you have and its layout as to which one you choose.

I feel your pain though. It took a lot of work for me to get my R7 5800x cooling the way I want it to. Moreso than any other build I've done.

You can also download Ryzen Master which will help figure out what is going on. Make sure your room has airflow in it. It could just be the ambient air is heating up and your system begins to draw in ever warmer and warmer air.

BTW that is a really nice system. That Hero board is not cheap. I'm running a ROG Strix and almost bought that hero board but it was pretty expensive at the time. I hope you figure it out. Your computer should eat this game alive and ask for seconds honestly.

Please stick to your Xbox console. Max 65c under load????? 65c is quite low, 75c is still perfectly fine, I would start to worry when you get temps close to 90c.

The only way to get lower temperatures easily is to Undervolt the cpu which is what I did and I got 10c lower temperatures on average without performance loss.

Anyway it’s not worth it to play this game. Starfield is a fraud and the biggest disappointment of the century.
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