confused about endgame NG+

[Haristess]

So i understand that once you end the main story line, you lose all your physical progress, and keepy your XP, skills, and obtain a power and ship, but im super confused about why anyone would want to rinse and repeat the same main storyline over and over again?

I dont think ive ever played a game, completed it, and wanted to start from scratch and grind through its ups and downs all over again. Other games would fill that void, unless im missing the point?!

does the storyline change, progress, and not end so to speak?
i understand you lose companions, which tbf, from what ive seen, are bloody annoying anyway, so good riddens, but, does the story carry on, or is it the exact same storyline but with less companions?

I just dont understand why i would put in so much effort into makign outposts, building ships and grind, only to lose everything but the excuse is you now have a godly power ability.
I would prefer obtaining a god like power, during a storyline, and end the game with epic like powers, and still continue going through the content to 100% it. not complete the game, lose everything be given a power, and told, to do it all again from scratch.

Im absolutely baffled.
and ive been made aware theres 240ish power upgrades everytime you end the game, meaning you have to complete the game endless amount of times.

what a stupid game design loop this is...

I know this game is rough, and below par, but surely the game has to be the best game ive ever played in my life, to want to redo the game from scratch, and even then, id be satisfied and stop there. not to rinse and repeat endless amount of times.

[WolfWall]

Originally posted by Colourful Owl:

So NG+ is mostly for repeat runs if you want to roleplay a different style. My first run was as a good guy (doing UC, main story and Ryujin), second time around I'm playing as a pirate.

There are unique benefits for doing the NG+. As you said, you get a unique ship, spacesuit, you keep your XP, skills, abilities and even the buffs from magazines etc.

What I don't think people realise, is if you repeat certain things they get bigger benefits. For example if you pick up a magazine you got in your first run, in the second one, it'll have a bigger passive buff on top of what you got in the first run. You can also recollect the abilities in future runs, and they increase in power. Lastly, there are some specific NG+ only activities/side stories as well as unique NG+ interactions in the world. You just need to find them :)

The general consensus has been to do the main story in your first run, without spending much time on ship building, outposts etc. And then do all of that in future runs. The game has been designed with NG+ in mind. Your not supposed to grind everything in one run and get to level 500. You can, but you miss out on those unique elements as mentioned above.

The idea is you repeat the run in your next life. When you do NG+ you still need to collect the artifacts, these change location in your new run, and get positioned further out into the universe where you will face much tougher enemies.

AMAZING i dont think players understand this THATS FREAKING AWESOME, so NG was made right. You want to upgrade so your ship can go farther and enemies are harder AWESOME I did not know that

[jclosed]

Originally posted by TimsGamingDen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS9dIuUzEmY

Cohh explains NG+ without spoils, and why not to do it to fast.

Yep - And I think he really has a good case here!

No way I am going to rush through the game for an NG+ "replay". I rather have a good vanilla play first, to experience everything the game has to offer. After that first play (that can take probably 100 or 200 hours), I consider playing that NG+, but no moment sooner.

[Haristess]

Originally posted by Colourful Owl:

Originally posted by Haristess:

Im going to forget about this game i think. lol.
Ive dug and dug to figure out whether i should buy this game, and tried to ignore all of its fundamental flaws which are endless at this point, and here iam trying to understand the endgame, in order to ignore everything else, and im hit with yet another sucker punch.

gunna find something else worth my time and money.
Enjoy. x

What exactly would you want in a new game plus?

Remember, it's supposed to be a new start, hence the name of the term. When you complete the main story, you're given a choice. Go into new game plus, or stay in your current universe and keep everything you have and continue on as you want.

What would i prefer out of an NG+ scenario?
Well, firstly i wish they would have made the game a million times better than what it is, before contemplating whether people would like to replay the game over and over. lol

i dont like the idea of losing all of what i grinded for, physically, knowing all my money, outposts, ships everything i would have worked hard for, to just be thrown away, but also i dislike like the fact id be locked out from obtaining power abilities, by not completing the game too.
After all, thats what the story has driven you towards getting.
So id rather have the option to keep all of my stuff, and obtain whatever power i get, so i can continue doing side quests and 100% it, or go into a new game having all my money, outposts and ships.

I think its stupid to say to someone to not do the last storyline mission and complete the game, if you want to 100% it, because, like all of you, i would like a reward at the end, in having a power ability.
At the end of the day, A grind is a grind, so you expect to be rewarded and keep your stuff.

I think once the game ends, you should be given a checklist, or a range of options, from keeping all your stuff, to losing everything, and maybe a Gamble option. Maybe theres an inbuilt reward system in there too, for choosing to lose all your stuff, or to gamble, i dont know.

eitherway, the game as a whole is awful, the main quest line, and all of the dialogue and missions ive seen are boring, uncreative, uninteresting and are all old fashioned A to B, back to A situations.
so, it doesnt really matter as ive chosen not to purchase the game.

I just wrote this OP, giving myself the last ditch excuse, to buy something i already know is rubbish, and weak, and lazily done.
I could rant all day long about how weak all the different aspects of the game are, and maybe i thought if i just do the main quest, complete it, and while doing so, i do get drawn into outpost building, or whatever and who knows i begin to like it, that its a sucker punch knowing ill lose it at the end.

I just really dislike the entire thought process of developing a game like this. It wouldnt be so bad, if the entire game was jaw droppingly amazing, that might entice me to replay the game, but it doesnt.
from what ive seen the ship building is very uncreative and restrictive. all of the companions are annoying. outpost building seems abit weak a pointless besides resource gathering. theres no economy of supply and demand, nothing that dynamically changes the economy either. all the quests seem boring, ship combat, is simply awful. you cant even rotate around your ship, that you built ffs. then theres the loading screens and endless dialogue. its barely a game, but a cinematic. Even as a cinematic is really bad.
Then there the planets themselves. the idea you cant land outside of a city avoiding security with contraband, and running over an open world, not being able to slip in the back so to speak, to sell your stuff, while maybe having an interesting dynamic
of having risks attatched, such as pirates you have to fight through at the back door, or that sometimes, its clear. Make the game interesting, and lived in, knowing that your not alone.

anyway, i could ramble on and on. lol.
maybe this thread enlightens people abit, if their confused about ng+, but besides that, i wont be playing the game.

[timmonsisold66]

Myself I wont be doing any side questing ( every city or place) or settlements until I beat the game and start on NG+ while playing on hard setting. Will see if better items or new game stuff pops up.

On a side note: A survival mode would fit well into NG+ or an option to start with.