The Elder Scrolls VI: Hammerfell - my concerns

[askasys]

I immediately requested a refund for Starfield, as I was 100% disappointed, it was not the game I expected. I did not expect Fallout in space, and I also did not expect to see propaganda within the game. (I mean all those characters who necessarily have to tell about their gay or trans history.)
A sci-fi game doesn't have to have dialogue like that, transhumanism doesn't have to be focused on biological sex change.
This is a space game, and I find the interaction with the characters absurd and irritating, far too much like modern times, I don't see anything really futuristic here.

Now, regarding it my concerns about their next title, TES 6, I really fear that it may include propaganda, and see gay and trans characters there too despite the medieval context, as well as the selection of pronouns, which is totally absurd and not even contemplated, and the excuse that it is fantasy cannot be a valid excuse.

Call me a bigot, I have no interest in your judgment. What I see is the bane of entertainment, the bane of my dreams.
Am I being selfish? Probably.
May I express opinions? Evidently not, because I am sure a certain faction will go against me and this will become yet another thread where the two ideological factions clash, by now it is always Left vs Right, Biden vs Trump, Zelensky vs Putin, Progressives vs conservatives, and so on.

[Birdii]

Originally posted by askasys:

Originally posted by Birdii:

Plenty of languages have a neutral gender. So they localized speech to accommodate the usage of a (potentially) gendered pronoun so that it makes sense grammatically. I don't see the issue.

Language does what language wants—you can't control it.

False

Then give an example?

[mav001au]

I won't call you a bigot. I do call you a Muppet

[Leylin Archeron]

that's the thing. I want all of Starfield's shortcomings to be shouted out loud and clear, to make it understood that we expect better from such an ambitious game.

Instead, the army of fan boys spend their days trying to hide the flaws and insult those who dare point them out.
It's Saint Rows all over again, and guess what? All they did was listen to the fanboys and now where are they ?

Starfield is worse than Skyrim, worse than Fallout 4, that's okay.
TES6 will be worse than Starfield, is it still be OK?

Bethesda is now part of Microsoft, political propaganda comes first, games second.

[Iratus Machina]

Originally posted by Tiny Little Nutsack:

also you do know Hammerfall is the realm of the Redguard right?

After seeing enough dumb posts whining about the perceived lack of white people in Starfield, I don't think the Steam forums are ready to handle those sort of posts multiplied by ten, maybe even a hundred in the near future.

[IFearSnowman]

Originally posted by askasys:

Originally posted by Tiny Little Nutsack:

ermm do you believe trans people and gay people did not exist in medieval times? because.....I got some bad news for you and your world view....

also you do know Hammerfall is the realm of the Redguard right? just thought you should know because it seems the sight of people of colour would also trigger you....

Your way of conversation is incorrect.
You are deliberately trying to provoke me, but you can rest assured, it doesn't work.
I am only a mirror of yourself.

However, I will reassure you. I am not worried about the things you mentioned, but about anything else. And you in the depths of your mind know that.

I actually am not trying to provoke you, hell the fact that your mind even went there tells me i have provoked you.
But I dont even know how what i said could be construed as being provocative, unless you really do believe gay people never existed until recently, which like I said, would clash with your belief and thus world views, that can be a shock and you might react in anger.

but regardless of that, you say you are not worried about those things, so you are not worried about it being mostly redguard and about gay people etc being in the game....then I truly dont know what you are worried about other then maybe expecting Hammerfall to be like Starfield, a rather meh product not living up to the hype.

(also was it not going to be set in Elswhere?)

[IFearSnowman]

Originally posted by Leylin:

that's the thing. I want all of Starfield's shortcomings to be shouted out loud and clear, to make it understood that we expect better from such an ambitious game.

Instead, the army of fan boys spend their days trying to hide the flaws and insult those who dare point them out.
It's Saint Rows all over again, and guess what? All they did was listen to the fanboys and now where are they ?

Starfield is worse than Skyrim, worse than Fallout 4, that's okay.
TES6 will be worse than Starfield, is it still be OK?

Ermm they did not listen to the fanboys, I think you are being extremely selective here so it fits your scenario, what people wanted from Saints Row is not what they got and that is why its gone.... which ya know...makes sense?

and also, it was just a bad game, watch Angry Joes review about how boring, repetitive and buggy it was, nothing to do with anything other then just the core game mechanics that failed it badly.

[[COG] ripfuel26]

Not sure why it matters, but I did notice a few odd conversations with NPC's talking to each other on that subject that struck me as odd, now I am not part of that community I think of my self as an open minded enough for a conservative person. I personally would be upset and feel like Im being pandered too so you can make your game seem progressive, or you can say your inclusive. I can understand the pronoun in the character creation because that is ones alter ego in the game and that should be as inclusive as possible I don't take offence to it because the option is not there for me if I play a male or female character (body type1 or type2) the pronouns are auto set to he/him she/her, you have to manually change it. I feel that is there for other people. Why people get hung up on that I don't understand the option is not there for You.

I have not had an interaction (yet) where I my character had to talk about it with another character in the game just those conversations I mentioned between 2 npcs that my character could over hear, if that is what your complaining about then don't eavesdrop ?? sorry not sorry lol.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

You should better be concerned about them using the same engine again in their next titles and using procedural system for them aswell :_(

But the truth is, no matter what your concerns are, you cant do anything about it anyways :-/

[iKxiiner]

Originally posted by askasys:

I immediately requested a refund for Starfield, as I was 100% disappointed, it was not the game I expected. I did not expect Fallout in space, and I also did not expect to see propaganda within the game. (I mean all those characters who necessarily have to tell about their gay or trans history.)
A sci-fi game doesn't have to have dialogue like that, transhumanism doesn't have to be focused on biological sex change.
This is a space game, and I find the interaction with the characters absurd and irritating, far too much like modern times, I don't see anything really futuristic here.

Now, regarding it my concerns about their next title, TES 6, I really fear that it may include propaganda, and see gay and trans characters there too despite the medieval context, as well as the selection of pronouns, which is totally absurd and not even contemplated, and the excuse that it is fantasy cannot be a valid excuse.

Call me a bigot, I have no interest in your judgment. What I see is the bane of entertainment, the bane of my dreams.
Am I being selfish? Probably.
May I express opinions? Evidently not, because I am sure a certain faction will go against me and this will become yet another thread where the two ideological factions clash, by now it is always Left vs Right, Biden vs Trump, Zelensky vs Putin, Progressives vs conservatives, and so on.

OP here speaking the truth, i'm pretty sure TES 6 will have the same amount of propaganda as Starfield, it's a shame since they used to make good games

[askasys]

Originally posted by Truth@silenced :-/:

You should better be concerned about them using the same engine again in their next titles and using procedural system for them aswell :_(

But the truth is, no matter what your concerns are, you cant do anything about it anywas :-/

Using the same Engine I like as an idea, this allows mods to be created easily.
In fact in the future some organized team will release a mod that will completely redevelop the game. Do you remember the team behind the project Enderal? Something like that.

[alex010300]

Please no woke crap in that game please

[askasys]

Originally posted by Dovah:

Lower your expectations while you have the time. Don't let "them" control your emotions.

TES 6 WILL be full of propaganda, and it WILL make Starfield look based by comparison.

You have 5 (or so) years to drill that into your head. Start now!

After various traumas suffered in recent years, and my favorite video games received sequels full of propaganda that they didn't have before, well, I'm already at the stage where I have no expectations.
I'm not talking about low expectations, but just absent expectations, they have disappointed me so much that I feel sorry for these companies.

[iKxiiner]

Originally posted by alex010300:

Please no woke crap in that game please

All NPCs will be either boss females, LGHDTV+ and/or POC

[Zerberr]

out of all concerns you chosen the least significant...

If TESVI will come out on the same ancient engine, it will be a disaster, bigger than what happened to SF. And at this point there are no indications of otherwise.

But hey, who cares, they have "they" so it's the biggest problem

[IFearSnowman]

Originally posted by askasys:

Originally posted by Dovah:

Lower your expectations while you have the time. Don't let "them" control your emotions.

TES 6 WILL be full of propaganda, and it WILL make Starfield look based by comparison.

You have 5 (or so) years to drill that into your head. Start now!

After various traumas suffered in recent years, and my favorite video games received sequels full of propaganda that they didn't have before, well, I'm already at the stage where I have no expectations.
I'm not talking about low expectations, but just absent expectations, they have disappointed me so much that I feel sorry for these companies.

See I got the same problem, but that more comes from 20 years of gaming experience and see there is zero progress, games we had 20 years ago were often better and more ambitious then what we have now.
Remember Agia physics? those demos? where is that in game? its been 20 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years.
I recently replayed Prince of Persia Sands of Time and that game could just be rereleased now with some new paint and it would fit in just fine....because nothing has really been improved since then.
Look at the new AC, borderline a carbon copy of the ones released over a decade ago.

And then completely mediocre disappointing games like Cyberpunk get all this attention when tis simply an inferior product to games we had SO LONG AGO.

but that is just because im no longer the target audience, they want new people who never played a game in their life so they dont know the good stuff that is out there and just assume anything older must be bad.