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Mister Burkes Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:10am
Can You Really Call This an Open-World Game?
Serious question. Starfield is currently tagged as Open World on Steam.
Last edited by Mister Burkes; Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:20am
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Originally posted by _oBSOLEte_:
Originally posted by Isa:
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

The world map being seamlessly connected is the most important facet. Yes, loading screens for dungeons and buildings are suboptimal, but those were technical limitations of the times 10 years ago.
And loading screens between the several planets are an obvious technical limitation these days. Confused about the double standard.

There's no double standard. People will always be fine that there's a loading screen when they open a door or go in an elevator.

And they will always be pissed when there's an invisibe wall, a floating text box to tell them they need to go back, or that the planet they spend an hour to travel to is a low poly jpeg you cant interact with.

It's all about diegesis. Very very basic game design they got totally backward and regressed here.
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Sharkon Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:12am 
the "open world map" would have to cover 1000 planets without loading screens and it wouldn't run on any hardware. so it's not.
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Mister Burkes Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Nokrahs:
the "open world map" would have to cover 1000 planets without loading screens and it wouldn't run on any hardware. so it's not.

It's currently tagged as Open World on Steam.
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Ironwu Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:20am 
Nope. Not even close. Instance to instance to instance is NOT 'Open World'. At least not in any way a reasonable person would define it.
Last edited by Ironwu; Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:21am
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AdahnGorion Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:
Originally posted by Nokrahs:
the "open world map" would have to cover 1000 planets without loading screens and it wouldn't run on any hardware. so it's not.

It's currently tagged as Open World on Steam.

Tags are user made. We could write "loading simulator" and that would show up if enough people did it.

The developer has only listed one genre (I think that is even more wrong) and that is RPG.

That being said, you can pretty much call anything what you want now a days and fake open world is rather common (with hub to hub) so I don´t think openworld is misleading in any way.
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Mister Burkes Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by AdahnGorion:
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:

It's currently tagged as Open World on Steam.

Tags are user made. We could write "loading simulator" and that would show up if enough people did it.

The developer has only listed one genre (I think that is even more wrong) and that is RPG.

That being said, you can pretty much call anything what you want now a days and fake open world is rather common (with hub to hub) so I don´t think openworld is misleading in any way.

What are some high profile examples of open world games that are actually hub to hub? I know Witcher 3 was like that for its different regions but the regions themselves were pretty seamless.
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Casus Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:26am 
You can call a cheese sandwich an open world game.

Starfield, however, is an open world game.
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-OrLoK- Слава Україн Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:30am 
serious answer: yes.
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Mister Burkes Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by Casus:
You can call a cheese sandwich an open world game.

Starfield, however, is an open world game.

How do you define open world?

And what about Starfield is open world?
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Hooch Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:33am 
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:
Serious question. Starfield is currently tagged as Open World on Steam.
Yes, it's open world.

An open world [game] is a virtual world in which the player can approach objectives freely, as opposed to a world with more linear and structured gameplay.
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Mister Burkes Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Aionion:
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:
Serious question. Starfield is currently tagged as Open World on Steam.
Yes, it's open world.

An open world [game] is a virtual world in which the player can approach objectives freely, as opposed to a world with more linear and structured gameplay.

How much freedom did you have doing the main quest?
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Birmingham Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:35am 
starfield is just a fasttravel game.. when u spawnn thats all the open world u get.. then if umove to a next place u just FT again.. an "loading" alot lol.. to me its not open world..its load world..
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AdahnGorion Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:
Originally posted by AdahnGorion:

Tags are user made. We could write "loading simulator" and that would show up if enough people did it.

The developer has only listed one genre (I think that is even more wrong) and that is RPG.

That being said, you can pretty much call anything what you want now a days and fake open world is rather common (with hub to hub) so I don´t think openworld is misleading in any way.

What are some high profile examples of open world games that are actually hub to hub? I know Witcher 3 was like that for its different regions but the regions themselves were pretty seamless.

I rather turn it around. What game does not have hub to hub if they have a blend of Action Adventure or even RPG elements.
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Bogardus Foul Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:36am 
Depends on how you define open world.

I always believed it to mean that you can go anywhere you want at any time. There is no fixed path and/or storyline.
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Harag Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Aionion:
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:
Serious question. Starfield is currently tagged as Open World on Steam.
Yes, it's open world.

An open world [game] is a virtual world in which the player can approach objectives freely, as opposed to a world with more linear and structured gameplay.

Agree with this, and Yes Starfield IS an open world, it has nothing to do with loading screens or not.
Last edited by Harag; Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:37am
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Nightwalker Sep 6, 2023 @ 11:37am 
Originally posted by Mister Burkes:
Serious question. Starfield is currently tagged as Open World on Steam.

It actually is an open world. You can make your own choices and follow your own path, unlike other games people have been mentioning here (with the exception of NMS). Unlike all of the other games mentioned, this game doesn't spoon feed you content. There is a TON of content, but you have to pay attention to the game world to find it. If you're one to go running around ignoring NPC convos and queues, then you'll miss out big time.

You can walk to wherever you want. Now, flying down to a planet? It'll take hours for that to happen. I may try it this weekend and see if anything happens. You are able to select your own landing sites from orbit, and wander as long as you like on the surface. Fast travel is a conveneince to add to the enjoyment of the game. You can choose to use it or not. Sheesh, even NMS had fast travel in the form of portals (ancient and player made).
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