How are the reviews "mostly positive"?

[とうきょう]

Dont get me wrong, I like Todd and his ideology, I like FO4 and Skyrim BUT Starfield was very dissappointing in terms of all the fun parts were just loading screens... I wanted to make a mod for Millenium Falcon and roleplay Han Solo but after finding out that boarding is loading, takeoff is loading, traversal in ship is loading... I refunded cuz the main selling point was exploration and if I cant use my ship for exploration then whats the point... Its like if you in GTA you could walk just on one street, to get to another street it would be loading, to enter a car it would be loading, to drive a car you would had to open a map, select a predetermined waypoint location, then you would click drive, loading, bang ur in your destination, loading while exit the car, and then locked out in one average sized district...

Its 2023 and playing Starfield takes me back to Oblivion days when the HW was not good enough to load up the whole map with interiors yet GTA SA and Mafia 1 did a pretty good job in the open world sense...

Yes I do still play Starfield on gamepass since I got it for free so I could use it to play the game there since saves are saved locally on my PC so it was still worth it but I dont understand why is the game so loading heavy... Yes it might take 1-3 seconds to load but still, animations exist and Cyberpunk had no loadings what so ever... Looked better.... Had smoother animations... catchy story.... good music... decent character creation... yet it got 100x more hate than Starfield on release... how and why, I dont know and honestly I dont understand people anymore...

[HyperLightDrifter]

Starfield is mostly Positive at the moment because everyone that was going to leave a negative review already refunded their game and they weren't eligible to leave a review at that time.
This is why they did the first week Early Access thing, to protect their product for long term sales.
Yes, it's manipulative. Yes, it is smart because this manipulation is allowed on Steam.
Get a big enough product with enough money behind it and you can do whatever you want to rig the system. It's like this in every business.

[Triggerd_Noob]

Originally posted by Brad:

Originally posted by Van Grogue(BR):

cyberpunk is most positive and people still pre order the dlc, what you think?

because Cyberpunk is great

This game is far and beyond better than cyberpunk is almost every single way except not having DLSS , HDR, and graphics at times aren't quite as good, but in some ways depending on the planet your on and time of day they can far exceed most games.

[Taddy Mason]

what were you expecting to explore for in space with all the star systems already mapped out when you load up the game for the first time, though. hoping to find new planets or things in space? that never was an option, though. so you'd just be flying around space slow as hell for what? what were you thinking you were going to do?

[Waxfire]

Originally posted by Shiverperplexed:

Starfield is mostly Positive at the moment because everyone that was going to leave a negative review already refunded their game and they weren't eligible to leave a review at that time.
This is why they did the first week Early Access thing, to protect their product for long term sales.
Yes, it's manipulative. Yes, it is smart because this manipulation is allowed on Steam.
Get a big enough product with enough money behind it and you can do whatever you want to rig the system. It's like this in every business.

Rig the system like using stores like microsofts own which makes any prelaunch ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ absolete ? Looking at the player count on the microsoft gaming pass your points turn out to be nothing but a bubble opinion by someone who cant live with the fact that other might like that what he doesnt.

[katzenkrimis]

Originally posted by Bumpy86:

How are the reviews "mostly positive"?

Thousands skipped town without leaving a review. They didn't give a crap. They just wanted their money back.

That leaves the goody-two-shoes to play and review their game in peace.

That won't solve any of the game's problems. It's a fake review system. That's why I don't do reviews. It's an illusion.

To see a million blue thumbs up is unrealistic. It wouldn't make me purchase this game even if I believed half of them.

Video games are an art form. You're not going to convince me that a bunch of people on Steam are professional artists, have an artistic eye, or even a crafty bone in their body.

If I saw more thumbs down, I'd want to read those before I'd read the glorious praises. I played the game for 40 hours myself. I know what I saw.

[Brando]

Because people are enjoying the game and don't all have identical tastes to you?

[Harris]

I think positive reviews generally fall into one of the three large categories:

1) People who are able to enjoy the game for what it is. Maybe their standards and expectations bar is set very low. Maybe they're just too young and know no other Bethesda games to compare to than Skyrim and Fallout 4. Who knows.

2) People who are on military grade copium and are fighting buyer's remorse. Don't get me wrong, "Starfield bad" is a tough pill to swallow. Because the game spent almost a decade in development, and another one is not coming anytime soon. "Starfield bad" means making a conscious choice "I'm sticking to Skyrim/Fallout 4 for the next decade" - and that's something not everyone is ready to do.

3) Honeymoon. Out of 6800 positive reviews as of now, about half got less than 10 hours => did not come from Early Access period. Once they're past their 12-15 hours with the game - disappointment might hit them, and their opinions - change.

[GeneralKayoss]

It's a great game, and I'm not even a big fan of space games.

[とうきょう]

Originally posted by NegativeZero:

I think if you've refunded the game your review doesn't get counted for the store page and then you also can't review it after you've refunded. Most of the reviews are probably just from people who paid the $100 for the game.

I did not make a review, I cant cuz I have refunded hence that option was taken away from me but that doesnt matter...

Anyways, why are ya'll acting like this is acceptable for a videogame in 2023? Imagine if you had a brand new car but it had an engine from Ford model T, you would also be unhappy even tho the car looks sick, is expensive as hell and has like 5 HP engine that can barely get the car to 25 km/h... You make a game in space and you cant even travel trough the space... Bethesda must have known this before hand that it will be a requirement and an issue for many many people... Its not like Cars in FO4 that are non existant, that is completely fine cuz its not a requirement... but in space? I am sorry but hate on this as much as you want, keep saying its "minority" even tho high majority dont like the same things about Starfield as I do, thanks to that I cannot enjoy the story cuz my character is a mute like in games from early 2000's... Soooo... yeah... Sorry but the hate on Cyberpunk which was running good with nearly no bugs for me on day 1, Starfield is the second worst new game I have tried in last 5 years... the worst game is still BG3 but this aint discussion about that...

That being said, it makes me very sad that this game flopped in the only thing I wanted it to suceed yet if you dont like flying and rather fast travel every few minutes while having a mute character, good for you but I wanted to play the game just for the flight and traversal in my ship, not cuz I wanted to run around doing chores... Story did not impressed me, encountered many game breaking bugs that forced me to reload a save and just ruined the feel for me... But if that is your cup of tea, I rather take my coffee...

[morph113]

Originally posted by Harris:

I think positive reviews generally fall into one of the three large categories:

1) People who are able to enjoy the game for what it is. Maybe their standards and expectations bar is set very low. Maybe they're just too young and know no other Bethesda games to compare to than Skyrim and Fallout 4. Who knows.

2) People who are on military grade copium and are fighting buyer's remorse. Don't get me wrong, "Starfield bad" is a tough pill to swallow. Because the game spent almost a decade in development, and another one is not coming anytime soon. "Starfield bad" means making a conscious choice "I'm sticking to Skyrim/Fallout 4 for the next decade" - and that's something not everyone is ready to do.

3) Honeymoon. Out of 6800 positive reviews as of now, about half got less than 10 hours => did not come from Early Access period. Once they're past their 12-15 hours with the game - disappointment might hit them, and their opinions - change.

Well I can say with certainty that I'm neither of the 3 categories so there are more categories for sure. I left a positive review after 60 hours and I feel like I barely scratched the surface and the game is getting more and more addicting by the minute.

Am I group 1? Definitely not, I played games from Bethesda since I grew up. I'm almost 38 now, started playing games 30 years ago. My expectations were high and the game exceeded my expectations. But I had realistic expectations. I knew it was not a space sim.

Am I group 2? 100% not. There is no buyers remorse on my end. I love the game and can't get enough. It has nothing to do with regretting my purchase but sticking with it. Quite the opposite.

Am I group 3? Honeymoon phase? With 60 hours played I don't think it's honeymoon phase anymore. Although considering I feel like I'm still early in the story and I barely scratched the surface of the game, maybe I am still in the honeymoon phase. It's a damn long honeymoon phase though.

[Malus Lupus]

Originally posted by Harris:

I think positive reviews generally fall into one of the three large categories:

1) People who are able to enjoy the game for what it is. Maybe their standards and expectations bar is set very low. Maybe they're just too young and know no other Bethesda games to compare to than Skyrim and Fallout 4. Who knows.

2) People who are on military grade copium and are fighting buyer's remorse. Don't get me wrong, "Starfield bad" is a tough pill to swallow. Because the game spent almost a decade in development, and another one is not coming anytime soon. "Starfield bad" means making a conscious choice "I'm sticking to Skyrim/Fallout 4 for the next decade" - and that's something not everyone is ready to do.

3) Honeymoon. Out of 6800 positive reviews as of now, about half got less than 10 hours => did not come from Early Access period. Once they're past their 12-15 hours with the game - disappointment might hit them, and their opinions - change.

I have not reviewed it yet, I actually wait a month before reviewing a game but if I continue to ENJOY it as much as I am ( I know shocking right, I'm supposed to hate it because that's the only acceptable option) I will be giving it a good review. Oh right, I must have "low standards." SMDH

[Ilja]

This is a Creation Engine game. I don't know what the people expected?

Seeing that game was indeed done with that, BGS absolutely outdid themselves technically.

Story and world are matters of preference. I won't go there; everyone has their own opinions, as with all previous games.

[とうきょう]

Originally posted by Harris:

I think positive reviews generally fall into one of the three large categories:

1) People who are able to enjoy the game for what it is. Maybe their standards and expectations bar is set very low. Maybe they're just too young and know no other Bethesda games to compare to than Skyrim and Fallout 4. Who knows.

2) People who are on military grade copium and are fighting buyer's remorse. Don't get me wrong, "Starfield bad" is a tough pill to swallow. Because the game spent almost a decade in development, and another one is not coming anytime soon. "Starfield bad" means making a conscious choice "I'm sticking to Skyrim/Fallout 4 for the next decade" - and that's something not everyone is ready to do.

3) Honeymoon. Out of 6800 positive reviews as of now, about half got less than 10 hours => did not come from Early Access period. Once they're past their 12-15 hours with the game - disappointment might hit them, and their opinions - change.

I do agree with you mate, first comment that makes sense... BUT look at me... I spent 100 bucks for digital premium edition, I was so excited about the pre release that I couldnt even sleep, I preloaded the game, I pumped myself with energy drinks to be awake the whole night... I spent 1 hour and 50 minutes in the game and I felt so bored... That being said, if the story was good and loadings instead of flying, I would be positive about the game too... but I know Bethesda, I expected bugs, chore and fetch quests and so on... but I really thought that they will give us atleast some freedom in flying our ships yet they do not do that either... Which is why I am so sad about the game... Now all I can do is wait longer for Assassins Creed Mirage to be released since I preordered that too and hopefully Ubisoft woke up from Assassins Creed Valhalla disaster and FC6 disaster...

[Harris]

Originally posted by morph113:

Am I group 1? Definitely not

You are able to enjoy the game for what it is - so technically yes, you are :)

[maniacal<1>]

Yeah, I'm starting to think I'm broken or something. Every game I think is just so-so gets all these rave reviews like it's the best thing ever. I can FULLY understand people loving Starfield, everyone has different tastes, but I cannot fathom everyone giving it a near-perfect score. I feel like either we're not playing the same game, or I just expect different things from a Bethesda RPG.

It's so boring to me. I'm not interested in the characters or the story, I'm not interested in the side-distractions, and all exploration is a total snooze-fest. I just don't get why I'm not enjoying this the same way everyone else is when this company and their games are my favorite style of RPG.