Starfield is overheating my PC *fixed*

[Brisket]

Edit: after all the bandwagon piling on instead of constructive feedback I fixed the problem. Reinstalled shaders back down to 50c temps running fine. So if you run into this problem in the future of temps getting get high playing reinstall shaders. Could be a caching issue over time it's a large game after all.

I know a bunch of people are gonna come in here and say not sufficient cooling but lemme go ahead and squash that.

I have a full custom water loop. GPU to 360 rad to CPU to 360 rad to distro plate. I've played every single game to date at Max settings on my 6900xt 5900x at 1440p sitting at under 60c at max load for hours and hours.

This game ran butter smooth for about 25 hours. And now I can't play more than 10 mins before my CPU is at 100c and shuts off. And this is from sitting at 39c idle before game starts. Tried other games still no problem. Pulled fans cleaned fans. Cleaned rads. Checked thermal paste. Applied new thermal paste. Pump flowing just as strong as ever. D5s never die.

This is pretty frustrating considering how much of a Bethesda fan I am. But this just flat out sucks now. And I'm at a really good point in the story too. This is Definitely not a cooling issue something screwed is going on with the game.

[BSNB]

OP, tell us you didn't properly stress test your rig without saying it. It makes my chuckle a little because people like op are the same ones that told me I didn't need a 360 aio for a 10700k stock with manual settings. 73c is the hottest my 10700k has got after 3 hours in game with cpu hitting 100% utilization on all c/t.

[iBeToxin]

Do not listen to those suggesting it is the cpu cooler. This is a known issue with this game. Game randomly causes cpu temp to spike and possibly even crash your PC. Happening to a bunch of i7 cpu's. I have a new cooler and thermal paste and only this game is causing this to happen.

[Xarian-Prime]

The crash logs indicate a Shader issue, that kicks in after a time
Clearing and recompiling the cache seems to work. For now, untill Beth can fix it longterm.
It's a Shader issue, it'll be addressed. The bigger your system the longer you'll get until it hits.
#Logic

[Raingnome Noir]

Originally posted by Xarian-Prime:

The crash logs indicate a Shader issue, that kicks in after a time
Clearing and recompiling the cache seems to work. For now, untill Beth can fix it longterm.
It's a Shader issue, it'll be addressed. The bigger your system the longer you'll get until it hits.
#Logic

How does one 'clear and recomplile' the cache please? Is there a step by step guide somewhere?

[Bombast]

Originally posted by BSNB:

OP, tell us you didn't properly stress test your rig without saying it. It makes my chuckle a little because people like op are the same ones that told me I didn't need a 360 aio for a 10700k stock with manual settings. 73c is the hottest my 10700k has got after 3 hours in game with cpu hitting 100% utilization on all c/t.

Well, you didn't. 10700s TDP maxes out at something like 200w, well within the capacity of a reputable twin tower air cooler. A 360mm AIO will work as well, of course, though general recommendation is if you don't have to risk pump failure, then don't.

[hottnova75]

Hmm, I don't know. How about optimization of the new program?

Played for 35 hours.

Had problems near the City of Akila. Also had some problems near constellation headquarters going in and out.

But in the rest of the game it was running fine. I went to several planets and moons. I did a few missions a,d built up the ship twice. Dogfighting was fine.

I noticed that every time I made the ship bigger , the computer struggled to render the new sections internally in the ship modules. I could run to 5 structures near Akila no problem in the bad weather. But as soon as I approach the gates , The deputy walks up and starts talking and it crashes usually.

I noticed crashes would happen when over encumbered and going to sell stuff in Outland, or the UC place across the way from Outland.

The third time I expanded my ship , it really struggled to let me inside to make my way to the pilots seat. After a couple of loadings it was fine.

I visited many outposts and bases. They were just fine out in space.

I don't mind craching alot playtesting a spacegame though. I play Star Citizen on this computer , and it runs fine.

Might be time to update my CPU and motherboard as they are 15 years old. I don't know , I have hopes for optimization still.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by Brisket:

Edit: after all the bandwagon piling on instead of constructive feedback I fixed the problem. Reinstalled shaders back down to 50c temps running fine. So if you run into this problem in the future of temps getting get high playing reinstall shaders. Could be a caching issue over time it's a large game after all.

I know a bunch of people are gonna come in here and say not sufficient cooling but lemme go ahead and squash that.

I have a full custom water loop. GPU to 360 rad to CPU to 360 rad to distro plate. I've played every single game to date at Max settings on my 6900xt 5900x at 1440p sitting at under 60c at max load for hours and hours.

This game ran butter smooth for about 25 hours. And now I can't play more than 10 mins before my CPU is at 100c and shuts off. And this is from sitting at 39c idle before game starts. Tried other games still no problem. Pulled fans cleaned fans. Cleaned rads. Checked thermal paste. Applied new thermal paste. Pump flowing just as strong as ever. D5s never die.

This is pretty frustrating considering how much of a Bethesda fan I am. But this just flat out sucks now. And I'm at a really good point in the story too. This is Definitely not a cooling issue something screwed is going on with the game.

Did your graphics drivers update, my AMD ones did..

[BalticZephyr]

I'm trying to run it on a Razer laptop i7 + 3070. It runs smoothly but hot as a half-fkd fox in a forest fire. It doesn't seem to throttle but I'm worried about my temps breaking 100. I lowered the specs. but it still runs hot. I also did the shader reinstall thingy. I don't know much about anything, but it seems like a problem.

[Maligner]

I'm not going to claim this link is the definitive answer, but there are some responses overall from qualified people. All of them say that it's essentially both. The game is causing the processor to get hotter than other games apparently have (for those that say they have no issues with other games) and yet they also confirm that a PC that overheats is due to less than adequate cooling, including age, dust, poor design etc. So it seems definitive that it's always a lack of proper cooling capacity, but that it's also because some games cause the larger heat build-up that makes it noticeable. In the end, you'll want to fix your cooling issue for the sake of your computer.

https://www.quora.com/Can-video-games-cause-a-PC-to-overheat

[Raingnome Noir]

Originally posted by Maligner:

I'm not going to claim this link is the definitive answer, but there are some responses overall from qualified people. All of them say that it's essentially both. The game is causing the processor to get hotter than other games apparently have (for those that say they have no issues with other games) and yet they also confirm that a PC that overheats is due to less than adequate cooling, including age, dust, poor design etc. So it seems definitive that it's always a lack of proper cooling capacity, but that it's also because some games cause the larger heat build-up that makes it noticeable. In the end, you'll want to fix your cooling issue for the sake of your computer.

https://www.quora.com/Can-video-games-cause-a-PC-to-overheat

It's really too bad there's no down-vote option on Steam posts. The 'it's your own fault' crowd are getting extremely tiresome, we KNOW adequate cooling is important, but in many cases it is ONLY Starfield that is stressing people's machine's out, and not their other more graphically intense games. Give it a rest will ya.

If Starfield is relying on everyone to have 100% perfect cooling then that in itself is a design flaw because it's not realistic

[Cadaver]

Originally posted by Maligner:

I'm not going to claim this link is the definitive answer, but there are some responses overall from qualified people. All of them say that it's essentially both. The game is causing the processor to get hotter than other games apparently have (for those that say they have no issues with other games) and yet they also confirm that a PC that overheats is due to less than adequate cooling, including age, dust, poor design etc. So it seems definitive that it's always a lack of proper cooling capacity, but that it's also because some games cause the larger heat build-up that makes it noticeable. In the end, you'll want to fix your cooling issue for the sake of your computer.

https://www.quora.com/Can-video-games-cause-a-PC-to-overheat

The thing here is that it's not even a software question

PC cooling as a field brngs no relevance to software because it sa purely mechanical field where we deal with the potential thermal output of the CPU and the cooling throughput of a block as well as other variables.

Software here never comes into the equation because on a mechanical level the cooling effect hould be able to be strong enough to match the highest potential thermal output of the part

[Cadaver]

Originally posted by Raingnome Noir:

Originally posted by Maligner:

I'm not going to claim this link is the definitive answer, but there are some responses overall from qualified people. All of them say that it's essentially both. The game is causing the processor to get hotter than other games apparently have (for those that say they have no issues with other games) and yet they also confirm that a PC that overheats is due to less than adequate cooling, including age, dust, poor design etc. So it seems definitive that it's always a lack of proper cooling capacity, but that it's also because some games cause the larger heat build-up that makes it noticeable. In the end, you'll want to fix your cooling issue for the sake of your computer.

https://www.quora.com/Can-video-games-cause-a-PC-to-overheat

It'ss really too bad there's no down-vote option on Steam posts. The 'it's your own fault' crowd are getting extremely tiresome, we KNOW adequate cooling is important, but in many cases it is ONLY Starfield that is stressing people's machine's out. Give it a rest will ya.

If Starfield is relying on everyone to have 100% perfect cooling then that in itself is a design flaw.

It's not "it's your own fault" it's "this isnt Starfields fault" the game is doing nothing wrong here, utilizing your system is not an issue.

But for some reason a completely objective fact based topic like PC cooling turns into a weird "YOU BLAME ME?!!!!" because people somehow take it personally

This is a purely objective mechanical issue.

Also cooling that can 100% match your parts thermal output is very realistic

[Montiness]

you realize that neither of those other 2 games flog the GPU as much as this one does, yeah?

AKA reinstalled/updated graphics driver? You only do everything else that you mentioned if you've neglected your pc for years.... Once I had an air cooled card which did this on new games and I never noticed that one of the fans had died long ago before playing it.

Everything you did is fine but you really don't need to post something like this until you've done everything you did and it continued. Tore the entire computed apart and performed maintenance before a basic driver checfk? OK.

[Raingnome Noir]

Originally posted by Shark:

Originally posted by Raingnome Noir:

It'ss really too bad there's no down-vote option on Steam posts. The 'it's your own fault' crowd are getting extremely tiresome, we KNOW adequate cooling is important, but in many cases it is ONLY Starfield that is stressing people's machine's out. Give it a rest will ya.

If Starfield is relying on everyone to have 100% perfect cooling then that in itself is a design flaw.

It's not "it's your own fault" it's "this isnt Starfields fault" the game is doing nothing wrong here, utilizing your system is not an issue.

But for some reason a completely objective fact based topic like PC cooling turns into a weird "YOU BLAME ME?!!!!" because people somehow take it personally

This is a purely objective mechanical issue.

How many people who were having heating issues, do you think are now playing Starfield at lower temperatures thanks to your posts? (and the other 2 or 3 'tech wizards' above)

Try zero, because many have already implemented the best cooling measures they are able to, measures which work fine for their other games.

Some gave practical advice, like capping your frame-rate, or deleting the shader cache because (people are talking about it), Starfield needs fixing in that department, but no, all you and the others do is repeat the same mantra that THE GAME IS FINE! THE GAME IS FINE!', and i have no idea what your intent is, but it certainly isn't to offer any practical help

[Maligner]

Originally posted by Shark:

Originally posted by Maligner:

I'm not going to claim this link is the definitive answer, but there are some responses overall from qualified people. All of them say that it's essentially both. The game is causing the processor to get hotter than other games apparently have (for those that say they have no issues with other games) and yet they also confirm that a PC that overheats is due to less than adequate cooling, including age, dust, poor design etc. So it seems definitive that it's always a lack of proper cooling capacity, but that it's also because some games cause the larger heat build-up that makes it noticeable. In the end, you'll want to fix your cooling issue for the sake of your computer.

https://www.quora.com/Can-video-games-cause-a-PC-to-overheat

The thing here is that it's not even a software question

PC cooling as a field brngs no relevance to software because it sa purely mechanical field where we deal with the potential thermal output of the CPU and the cooling throughput of a block as well as other variables.

Software here never comes into the equation because on a mechanical level the cooling effect hould be able to be strong enough to match the highest potential thermal output of the part

Essentially that's what I said. That the only reason it appears to be software causing it, is because the previously satisfactory cooling wasn't getting overworked to the point that it was obviously not enough cooling power to work properly when the CPU finally gets it's hardest workout. Saying it was the software doesn't mean the software is the sole cause, I'm pointing out that the software is finally taxing the system to the point that the insufficient cooling is apparent. If you buy a car with a cooling system that sucks but only drive it in a cool climate, you'll never know. When you drive to the hot region for vacation and your car overheats, the hotter climate caused it in conjunction with the fact the cooling system can't take max load. Same same here. Playing Starfield is like driving to that warmer climate and now, tada, you find out your cooling system is not very good. The way to fix it is of course to shore up the poor cooling system.