Starfield is overheating my PC *fixed*

[Brisket]

Edit: after all the bandwagon piling on instead of constructive feedback I fixed the problem. Reinstalled shaders back down to 50c temps running fine. So if you run into this problem in the future of temps getting get high playing reinstall shaders. Could be a caching issue over time it's a large game after all.

I know a bunch of people are gonna come in here and say not sufficient cooling but lemme go ahead and squash that.

I have a full custom water loop. GPU to 360 rad to CPU to 360 rad to distro plate. I've played every single game to date at Max settings on my 6900xt 5900x at 1440p sitting at under 60c at max load for hours and hours.

This game ran butter smooth for about 25 hours. And now I can't play more than 10 mins before my CPU is at 100c and shuts off. And this is from sitting at 39c idle before game starts. Tried other games still no problem. Pulled fans cleaned fans. Cleaned rads. Checked thermal paste. Applied new thermal paste. Pump flowing just as strong as ever. D5s never die.

This is pretty frustrating considering how much of a Bethesda fan I am. But this just flat out sucks now. And I'm at a really good point in the story too. This is Definitely not a cooling issue something screwed is going on with the game.

[Dave]

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Publicado originalmente por Shark:

Literally bring it to a PC tech, regardless of what software it happens on it just shouldnt happen

Why don't the other games make it happen? I play Microsoft flight simulator on ultra and that's a demanding game, no problems with it

This game will use up to 80% of a 16 core CPU. So on lesser CPUs, with less cores, it will lock the CPU at near 100% for most of gameplay. The only other game I've seen use this much of a CPU would be some of the assassin's creed games.

But still. Overheating is not a game's fault. It's the user's (or whomever built the PC) fault for overclocking, overvolting, and / or having a crap cooling system.

[Dave]

Publicado originalmente por Brisket:

Edit: after all the bandwagon piling on instead of constructive feedback I fixed the problem. Reinstalled shaders back down to 50c temps running fine. So if you run into this problem in the future of temps getting get high playing reinstall shaders. Could be a caching issue over time it's a large game after all.

I know a bunch of people are gonna come in here and say not sufficient cooling but lemme go ahead and squash that.

I have a full custom water loop. GPU to 360 rad to CPU to 360 rad to distro plate. I've played every single game to date at Max settings on my 6900xt 5900x at 1440p sitting at under 60c at max load for hours and hours.

This game ran butter smooth for about 25 hours. And now I can't play more than 10 mins before my CPU is at 100c and shuts off. And this is from sitting at 39c idle before game starts. Tried other games still no problem. Pulled fans cleaned fans. Cleaned rads. Checked thermal paste. Applied new thermal paste. Pump flowing just as strong as ever. D5s never die.

This is pretty frustrating considering how much of a Bethesda fan I am. But this just flat out sucks now. And I'm at a really good point in the story too. This is Definitely not a cooling issue something screwed is going on with the game.

It's never a game's fault. Never EVER. A CPU and GPU are designed to run at 100% full load without overheat.

If you're overheating, it means you either overclocked/overvolted too much, and/or you have poor cooling in your PC. It really is just that simple.

It sounds like your cooling system can't handle the CPU at 100% use (that or you have it overclocked and overvolted so it performs well when not at 100% load, but overheats when pegged at 100%). Either way, it's your fault (or whomever built your PC fault).

You need to FPS cap the game, or fix your overheat issue by removing overclocking, overvolting, and/or get a better water cooling system.

[Raingnome Noir]

Publicado originalmente por Dave:

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Why don't the other games make it happen? I play Microsoft flight simulator on ultra and that's a demanding game, no problems with it

This game will use up to 80% of a 16 core CPU. So on lesser CPUs, with less cores, it will lock the CPU at near 100% for most of gameplay. The only other game I've seen use this much of a CPU would be some of the assassin's creed games.

Mine has 8 cores, so i guess i'm screwed.

[Dave]

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Publicado originalmente por Dave:

This game will use up to 80% of a 16 core CPU. So on lesser CPUs, with less cores, it will lock the CPU at near 100% for most of gameplay. The only other game I've seen use this much of a CPU would be some of the assassin's creed games.

Mine has 8 cores, so i guess i'm screwed.

It won't perform well on an 8 core CPU that's for sure, but running at 100% CPU use most of the time shouldn't hurt your CPU or overheat it as long as you have a proper cooling system and don't push OC/OV it too much.

I have an 8 core, but I have HT tech. So it works out to be 16 cores.

[Raingnome Noir]

Publicado originalmente por Dave:

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Mine has 8 cores, so i guess i'm screwed.

It won't perform well on an 8 core CPU that's for sure,

Weirdly it does actually perform quite smoothly, i get from 45-50 fps most the time, it's just that i have to sacrifice my CPU to the fires of Satan whilst doing so.

[Ivylifestyle]

i think this game is a wake up call. A lot of us on 3060/4060 and higher need to update cooling and CPUs. I see posters with 8th or 9th gen intel. I run a 13th gen i7 and ryzen zen 2 on my second setup. The Ryzen temps are insane but the i7 is fine. I just think this title is cpu bound at a point yet everyone mentions the 3070/2070/4080 but with a 2017 6 core cpu. The 14 cores vs 8 core really improved my fps.

[Caduryn]

Publicado originalmente por Dave:

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Mine has 8 cores, so i guess i'm screwed.

It won't perform well on an 8 core CPU that's for sure, but running at 100% CPU use most of the time shouldn't hurt your CPU or overheat it as long as you have a proper cooling system and don't push OC/OV it too much.

I have an 8 core, but I have HT tech. So it works out to be 16 cores.

????

Absolute no idea what you are talking about.... 8 core... lol

[Will it Blend]

Publicado originalmente por Ivylifestyle:

i think this game is a wake up call. A lot of us on 3060/4060 and higher need to update cooling and CPUs. I see posters with 8th or 9th gen intel. I run a 13th gen i7 and ryzen zen 2 on my second setup. The Ryzen temps are insane but the i7 is fine. I just think this title is cpu bound at a point yet everyone mentions the 3070/2070/4080 but with a 2017 6 core cpu.

Temps regardless of hardware should always be at safe operational temperatures.
If it is not you need better cooling.

This is a universal trruth

Although i can recommed the I9-12900k and 3080TI, its the rig i run with an omen AIO that has a radioator atop the case its a really neat case design while staying classic form factor wise

[ZombieHunter]

So you want to reduce the load on your system instead of fixing the cooling? You paid good money for components yet you want to under utilize them b/c your cooling solution doesn't work?

Fix your cooling. Many of us are system builders here and have built them for decades. Cooling is extremely important.

I have no idea why Starfield is overheating anyone's system. My GPU is at 99% and my CPU at 27% but my core hotspot on my GPU is at 67C. That is barely anything. Icarus and RDR 2 take the hotspot up to 90C. My computer is dead quiet when I run Starfield. It doesn't even tax it in the least.

But I had major cooling issues in a full tower case when I built this a few months ago. I had to make major changes inside of it to help the airflow and bought a new 3 fan AIO to cool the CPU. If you have a case you have options on how to setup your cooling. You need to figure out if it is a positive pressure or negative pressure case or if it supports both. You want cool air coming in from the front back through the case and either out the top or out the back. For positive pressure you want more air coming in than going out and for negative you have more going out than coming in. Negative is usually cooler than positive but both solutions work. Lots of PC building sites will show you various setups.

If you are on a laptop well you are pretty much screwed. Those form factors do not have enough cooling to constantly run your CPU at max and so it will throttle it to keep the system cool. That throttling means reduced performance. It make zero sense for a company to put an I9 in a laptop and then run it at 50% for 90% of the time b/c it cannot run it maxed out. What a waste of hardware and money.

My case is setup with one large Thermaltake in the front that blows back over my SSDs and then I have my CPU AIO radiator at the back with a fan, another exhaust fan and the AIOS pull from the top, not exhaust. I would like for them to exhaust but that would be way too positive for my case. So my air comes in from the front and top and blows out the back side. Now this does mean I might be sucking in warmer air from the top AIO since hot air rises and the hot air goes out of my case in the back. But it is the best I can do with my case.

Software should never overheat your CPU or your GPU. Ever. Ever. Ever. You should be able to run both maxed infinitely with absolutely zero cooling issues. If you cannot it is 100% the fault of your cooling system. Blaming other things and/or putting band-aids on the issue by reducing load is not the answer. You are barking up the wrong tree.

Fix your cooling solution. It will extend the life of your components. If this software taxes it then others will too. You must find the right cooling setup for your system. We are not being jerks or giving your bad information. All system builders know that cooling is probably the most important system in any PC build. Heat is the enemy of all things silicon.

[Lazarus {FATE}]

Publicado originalmente por ZombieHunter:

Publicado originalmente por Brisket:

Sigh I literally explain this in detail and knew I was going to get this response. None of this happens in any other game at all. Bg3 runs fine. Wz2 is fine. Even this game was fine at first until I hit the 20 hour mark. Its certainly not the hardware. And I see other people and articles posting about this now. There is a problem with the game. Clearly. But sure it's definitely my hardware that has zero problems on any other game.

Look I get it. I love Bethesda too but let's not kid ourselves that a just released Bethesda title is going to have no problems. Cause if you think that you must be very very very new to Bethesda titles.

It is true. Software cannot overheat your PC. Your cooling solution is inadequate for the task at hand. It just so happens that a certain game or piece of software taxes it to the point that it reveals the issue. The issue has been there without you knowing it. I'm on a 3 fan AIO and never hit over 65C under load. Starfield really does not tax my system at all. But RDR 2 and Icarus and some other games do make it sound like a jet engine sometimes. I'm on Ultra in 1440p with motion blur turned off b/c I hate motion blur in every single game. I'm getting about 85 to 100 FPS. I'm also not using FSR b/c that scaling nonsense is so ugly. I'd rather it render native at all times.

I'm sorry your system is doing this. I would run some benchmarks and test it and watch the temps. You should be getting around 10 to 15 over ambient. You will never get ambient or below with passive cooling. It is physically impossible with passive cooling. If the game is heating your room up make sure you have good ventilation in it b/c the PC is just going to act like a space heater and then it will be pulling in hotter and hotter air and eventually it will be unable to cool.

Software can definitely overheat your pc which is why stress tests exist or are they not software?

[Will it Blend]

Publicado originalmente por Lazarus =8=:

Publicado originalmente por ZombieHunter:

It is true. Software cannot overheat your PC. Your cooling solution is inadequate for the task at hand. It just so happens that a certain game or piece of software taxes it to the point that it reveals the issue. The issue has been there without you knowing it. I'm on a 3 fan AIO and never hit over 65C under load. Starfield really does not tax my system at all. But RDR 2 and Icarus and some other games do make it sound like a jet engine sometimes. I'm on Ultra in 1440p with motion blur turned off b/c I hate motion blur in every single game. I'm getting about 85 to 100 FPS. I'm also not using FSR b/c that scaling nonsense is so ugly. I'd rather it render native at all times.

I'm sorry your system is doing this. I would run some benchmarks and test it and watch the temps. You should be getting around 10 to 15 over ambient. You will never get ambient or below with passive cooling. It is physically impossible with passive cooling. If the game is heating your room up make sure you have good ventilation in it b/c the PC is just going to act like a space heater and then it will be pulling in hotter and hotter air and eventually it will be unable to cool.

Software can definitely overheat your pc which is why stress tests exist or are they not software?

Stress tests expose weakpoints such as Overheating
A stress test is a good way to see if your sysems cooling is faulty or not or is good enough if not faulty

[Raingnome Noir]

Publicado originalmente por Lazarus =8=:

Publicado originalmente por ZombieHunter:

It is true. Software cannot overheat your PC. Your cooling solution is inadequate for the task at hand. It just so happens that a certain game or piece of software taxes it to the point that it reveals the issue. The issue has been there without you knowing it. I'm on a 3 fan AIO and never hit over 65C under load. Starfield really does not tax my system at all. But RDR 2 and Icarus and some other games do make it sound like a jet engine sometimes. I'm on Ultra in 1440p with motion blur turned off b/c I hate motion blur in every single game. I'm getting about 85 to 100 FPS. I'm also not using FSR b/c that scaling nonsense is so ugly. I'd rather it render native at all times.

I'm sorry your system is doing this. I would run some benchmarks and test it and watch the temps. You should be getting around 10 to 15 over ambient. You will never get ambient or below with passive cooling. It is physically impossible with passive cooling. If the game is heating your room up make sure you have good ventilation in it b/c the PC is just going to act like a space heater and then it will be pulling in hotter and hotter air and eventually it will be unable to cool.

Software can definitely overheat your pc which is why stress tests exist or are they not software?

Don't bother, those two showing off their tech skills are about as useful as a small tomato with wheels

[Caduryn]

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Publicado originalmente por Lazarus =8=:

Software can definitely overheat your pc which is why stress tests exist or are they not software?

Don't bother, those two showing off their tech skills are about as useful as a small tomato with wheels

Doesnt matter what you think.... overheating is ALWAYS a User problem

[Will it Blend]

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Publicado originalmente por Lazarus =8=:

Software can definitely overheat your pc which is why stress tests exist or are they not software?

Don't bother, those two showing off their tech skills are about as useful as a small tomato with wheels

So are you going to just throw aroundinsults or explain how exactly anything thats been said is incorrect

I actually want people to be aware of weapoints in their systems so their parts have more longevity

[ZombieHunter]

Publicado originalmente por Raingnome Noir:

Publicado originalmente por Lazarus =8=:

Software can definitely overheat your pc which is why stress tests exist or are they not software?

Don't bother, those two showing off their tech skills are about as useful as a small tomato with wheels

No one is showing off. We are telling you facts. I'm sorry you don't know what you don't know. Honestly people sound ridiculous when they claim software is overheating their system. They are admitting their cooling solution is inadequate.

Keep throwing insults and get reported. I'm tired of this nonsense. The OP asked so they obviously do not know. Yet when people who do know respond they respond with you don't know. Well if the OP knows then why did they ask? Ridiculous.

It is ok not to know something. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't know a lot of things. But when you don't know to insist that you do or question those that do is kind of absurd. That means the person doesn't want to fix the problem they want to complain about it.