"Trust the science"

[runs_with_scissors]

They literally wrote it into the game.

If you choose not to release an unproven microbiome into the ecosystems to fight the terrophorms, all your NPC companions are pissed at you for not "trusting the science." Painful writing.

[Saii]

Автор сообщения: starkmaddness

"Trust the science" is the most unscientific statement you could make, and anyone who says it certainly doesn't value science.

"Understand the science"
"Study the science"
"Test the science"
"Question the science"

All valid, but trust? Trust is a synonym for faith, which has no place in science.

You really understand it. Kudos.

[Geargut]

Автор сообщения: starkmaddness

Lobotomies were cutting edge science.

I think some people still trust that.

[76561197979566298]

Whenever I hear the phrase "Trust the science." I imagine Will Farrell in Anchorman saying "Men are smarter than women...it's science!"

Where's the trust on that one ladies?

[Zeno]

Isn’t it also weird that Hadrian Sanon defers to my judgment, in the end? I’m just a Neon street rat and occasional cybercriminal who, after a bad trip while working a side-job as a miner for a cut-rate corporation, is recruited by a shady exploration cult. What do I know about the relative merits of biological control v. engineered microbes?

[El lobo]

Автор сообщения: tyke

You absolutely should trust science. The issue for most is being able to understand what is the most valid science. Most individuals don't trust science, by 'trusting science' they mean that they trust deferring to some cultural authority figure. Let alone most individuals are not capable of understanding the science, they're not even capable of researching the track records in order to know who to defer to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIh4MkcfJA

For most people 'trust science' simply means 'trust groupthink'.

You should never trust the science, even more, trusting the science is against the base spirit of science. Science is about questioning and researching, not about trusting. Thats why nearly all famouse scientists like Einstein are the ones who went against the established understanding of science and uncovered something completely new. This doesnt mean that we should reject science, it just means we should never blindly trust it and allways question, research and experiment.

[mackrealiv]

Автор сообщения: 2CUSUFFER

Whenever I hear the phrase "Trust the science." I imagine Will Farrell in Anchorman saying "Men are smarter than women...it's science!"

Where's the trust on that one ladies?

Ask Sarah since she has absolute blind faith that the UC Government will NEVER do anything wrong...again...and in scientists that state a 'one in a million chance' is the same thing as impossible...for microbes, I mean, it is estimated that at any given time there are around 90 TRILLION of them in the human body

[Biff]

Автор сообщения: halfmonkey

There used to be such a thing as "peer review" when it came to science.
(It still exists, but modern sources tend to discount or falsely discredit peer review as biased or impeding, because it does not fit the desired result of the study... Sound familiar?)

We currently live in an awkward age where scientific study can be bought.

Bingo.

[ewitte]

Автор сообщения: The Greg Machine

You gentlemen seem like the types to use ivermectin...

Better than an experiment

[Baphled]

I wonder what the conservative alternative would be.

An email with the subject line "FW:FW:FW:FW This ONE trick Scientists Don't want you to know to stop terrormorphs!"

[The Nameless]

Автор сообщения: LunchBoxMustard

I noticed this today too... I let the they/them stuff in character creation not faze me as I could simply opt out but finding out yesterday that Sarah was in a bunch relationships with "men and women" barret was married to a man... The Atlantis president is a woman... The space pirate captain is in a relationship with the shipwright woman on the key... I had to hunt down an engagement ring for a gay man from his gay ex for the security in Atlantis... And then my "wife" getting mad at me and telling me I don't trust the science... These game developers are really ruining my experience I was 30 hours in and now I don't even wanna play anymore

Sarah in a bunch of relationships? Now that's just not true, she's pretty much a broken loner. The closest relationship she has is with Aja, her predecessor as chairwoman. And that's not romantic, it's just the kind of deep friendship women tend to form.

Barrett was formerly married to a man, yeah, and it's true that having flirt options come up with same-sex characters makes me a bit uncomfortable, but I've been ignoring that crap since Skyrim; it's nothing new. I just avoid Barrett.

Whatever pirates do looks bad. Isn't it kind of a slap against the gay community for them to make gay pirates?

I haven't gotten far enough to be dealing with terrormorph issues yet, other than occasionally having to kill one. Either that, or that's one of the side-quests I just haven't bothered with. But I have to wonder how accurate your recounting of it actually is, since you seem to have Sarah all wrong.

[GiggleHz]

to be hated by ppl like this, indicates you are on the right side.

[ewitte]

Автор сообщения: Nox

Science is not about trust, it's about scrutiny and evaluation. It's about theory, experiment and observation.

It is not about consensus, popularity, social obligation, trust or faith. It's not about feelings, it's about rationale.

No wonder we have so little of it.

Unfortunately, the usual goal for the science is $$ at "acceptable risks". We also don't know what we are doing a lot of times while "experimenting".

[ewitte]

Автор сообщения: MagicHp

Автор сообщения: Fnord

"Trust the science" just means "shut up and don't question"

Flat earther much? ^^

"Trust the Science" means "You can prove this yourself if you redo every steps as that is the basis for the scientific method and it has already been tested and reviewed" .

Quite not the same meaning here ;)

The vast majority of science is proving an OBSERVATION which may or may not be an actual fact and is usually based on incomplete data and assumptions. Not even the top scientists in the world can agree about a lot of things.

[MisterPool]

Автор сообщения: Nox

Science is not about trust, it's about scrutiny and evaluation. It's about theory, experiment and observation.

It is not about consensus, popularity, social obligation, trust or faith. It's not about feelings, it's about rationale.

No wonder we have so little of it.

This. Science is a method of testing theory. Science, real science, is always open to new data. Science is never, ever "settled".

[mackrealiv]

Автор сообщения: The Nameless

Автор сообщения: LunchBoxMustard

I noticed this today too... I let the they/them stuff in character creation not faze me as I could simply opt out but finding out yesterday that Sarah was in a bunch relationships with "men and women" barret was married to a man... The Atlantis president is a woman... The space pirate captain is in a relationship with the shipwright woman on the key... I had to hunt down an engagement ring for a gay man from his gay ex for the security in Atlantis... And then my "wife" getting mad at me and telling me I don't trust the science... These game developers are really ruining my experience I was 30 hours in and now I don't even wanna play anymore

Sarah in a bunch of relationships? Now that's just not true, she's pretty much a broken loner. The closest relationship she has is with Aja, her predecessor as chairwoman. And that's not romantic, it's just the kind of deep friendship women tend to form.

Barrett was formerly married to a man, yeah, and it's true that having flirt options come up with same-sex characters makes me a bit uncomfortable, but I've been ignoring that crap since Skyrim; it's nothing new. I just avoid Barrett.

Whatever pirates do looks bad. Isn't it kind of a slap against the gay community for them to make gay pirates?

I haven't gotten far enough to be dealing with terrormorph issues yet, other than occasionally having to kill one. Either that, or that's one of the side-quests I just haven't bothered with. But I have to wonder how accurate your recounting of it actually is, since you seem to have Sarah all wrong.

Sarah point blank states later in the relationship progression dialog that she had been in multiple intimate relationships with both men and women after he breakup with Aja (she even has dialog options prior to that where she admits her relationship with Aja was not purely platonic.)

As for the terramorph solution, that is from the UC Vanguard quest line to gain UC Citizenship (one of the more interesting quest lines in the game.)