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runs_with_scissors Sep 5, 2023 @ 6:31pm
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"Trust the science"
They literally wrote it into the game.

If you choose not to release an unproven microbiome into the ecosystems to fight the terrophorms, all your NPC companions are pissed at you for not "trusting the science." Painful writing.
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Zeno Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by UntrustedLife:
they get mad but you ACTUALLY get the best result, so its actually saying don't blindly trust the science.

It seems to be the case that neither option has any bad consequences, so it turns out to be a meaningless decision, entirely without weight. The writers really pulled their punches on that one, and at least missed an opportunity to allow some dissent within the ranks of Constellation.
Last edited by Zeno; Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:12am
NegativeZero Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:06am 
Without science we wouldn't have computers and video games. Or like a billion other things you people enjoy.

Ungrateful, ignorant people. So ridiculous.

Guess what, you get loaded up with vaccines when you are born and get plenty throughout childhood to protect you. You ignorant science-deniers don't deserve the protection, but you get it anyways.

However, I would agree that it's silly for all the companions to dislike you for exercising caution with a microbe meant to wipe out an entire species. But this game is trash and poorly designed and written so what can you do.
Last edited by NegativeZero; Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:09am
AdahnGorion Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:07am 
A lot of stories today have eternal truths and not many nuances, the same is true for Starfield
starkmaddness Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:08am 
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"Trust the science" is the most unscientific statement you could make, and anyone who says it certainly doesn't value science.

"Understand the science"
"Study the science"
"Test the science"
"Question the science"

All valid, but trust? Trust is a synonym for faith, which has no place in science.
Zeno Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:11am 
Originally posted by NegativeZero:
Without science we wouldn't have computers and video games. Or like a billion other things you people enjoy.

Ungrateful, ignorant people. So ridiculous.

Guess what, you get loaded up with vaccines when you are born and get plenty throughout childhood to protect you. You ignorant science-deniers don't deserve the protection, but you get it anyways.

There's no need to be absolutist about this. It's possible to recognize all the great things that have become possible through scientific inquiry without affording to "The Science" some sort of absolute moral authority.

To summarize my long post from just above: scientific inquiry may reveal what we can do, but it cannot on its own dictate what we should do.

Also, it doesn't help your case to lead by insulting the intelligence and/or character of people who disagree with you.
Last edited by Zeno; Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:15am
Dr.Abscondus Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:20am 
Science is not singular, or a finished product. It is an eternal work in progress. The most important attribute a scientist must have is scepticism. Even a casual exploration of history shows that 'the Science' everyone believed in the past was mostly wrong, and often resulted in untold misery and suffering for millions of people. Believe the Science is a political statement, and like all such statements has only a single purpose. Control.
starkmaddness Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:22am 
Lobotomies were cutting edge science.
Zeno Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by starkmaddness:
Lobotomies were cutting edge science.
Pun intended, I assume?
Fraktal Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:32am 
Originally posted by NegativeZero:
Without science we wouldn't have computers and video games. Or like a billion other things you people enjoy.

Ungrateful, ignorant people. So ridiculous.

Guess what, you get loaded up with vaccines when you are born and get plenty throughout childhood to protect you. You ignorant science-deniers don't deserve the protection, but you get it anyways.

However, I would agree that it's silly for all the companions to dislike you for exercising caution with a microbe meant to wipe out an entire species. But this game is trash and poorly designed and written so what can you do.

No one here is anti science.

We are anti “doctored” science where the outcome is to push an agenda and drive up profits for some corporation.

My kids are all vaccinated. Except for that obvious one.
eMiKo Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:36am 
Did you guys know that the spanish flu actually originates from the rockefeller vaccines that they gave to US Soldiers which were later deployed to Spain?
Fascinating.
Trust the science guys.
Some NPC was saying that ingame 2days ago, I shot him in the face.
mackrealiv Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by Lichlord9333:
Why release the microbe then risk the whole mutation thing not to mention they would need to re-edit it everytime the terrormorphs adapt to it while you could reintroduce mega-fauna who are a natural predator to it and when it done it's job still is off use as livestock on the long term....

Originally posted by Iratus Machina:
Am I the only one who chose the microbe because the aceles seemed like a logistics nightmare waiting to happen? I get releasing the untested virus is a dumb idea, but it's even dumber to clog the spaceports with even bigger scary aliens stomping all over to get rid of the big scary aliens. Think of all the spaceship accidents waiting to happen and dumb drunks about to get omnomnomed even if they somehow solve the terrormorph problem.

I don't believe it to be such a nightmare in logistics and considering they were used as livestock before the technology and know how to keep these animals from the general human population should be there or at least archived.

Exactly! They were just giant space cows/chickens that just so happen to greatly enjoy snacking on terramorphs and their larval stage.
I also thought the 'scientist' saying it was impossible to go wrong because it was *ONLY* a one in a million chance and they would monitor. The UC can't already can't monitor all of the known star systems, orbital bodies, and travelling ships (there was even a registered generational ship they completely didn't know about traveling for ~200 years), add to that the fact that on that scale the microbes would far exceed a population of hundreds of trillions, making that mere 'one in a million' chance a statistical absolute certainty that would most likely happen away from their 'observations'.
Last edited by mackrealiv; Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:59am
Commander Hitman2b Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by runs_with_scissors:
They literally wrote it into the game.

If you choose not to release an unproven microbiome into the ecosystems to fight the terrophorms, all your NPC companions are pissed at you for not "trusting the science." Painful writing.
they not all pissed only sarah is but it's the most rational choice because if it's mutated you'll have an enhanced version of a terraphorms and might be to late to deployes the natural hunters
Commander Hitman2b Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Saturn830:
Is it really 'unproven'? In that case it's not science.
it was tested in a control environement both had the same effectiveness , only issue is microrganisms can mutated so it was small scale testing not really large scale
Last edited by Commander Hitman2b; Sep 12, 2023 @ 11:55am
halfmonkey Sep 12, 2023 @ 12:01pm 
There used to be such a thing as "peer review" when it came to science.
(It still exists, but modern sources tend to discount or falsely discredit peer review as biased or impeding, because it does not fit the desired result of the study... Sound familiar?)

We currently live in an awkward age where scientific study can be bought.
mackrealiv Sep 12, 2023 @ 12:07pm 
Originally posted by Saturn830:
Is it really 'unproven'? In that case it's not science.

There's literally still scientific debate about what gravity actually is and how it works, as well as so many other things, which is why the term 'Scientific Theory' is a thing.
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