I played 32 hours and where are the whites?

[RealityGx]

Hello,
First of all, I'd like to apologize for the title, which is a bit "pute à clique" as they say in French, but I had no idea how to make it a proper one, so I think this one will arouse some people's curiosity.

I'm going to talk about the points that bother me and some of which have been fairly noted by the community (I'm talking about the great white replacement as well as the place of man, the latter point seems not to have been raised that much) without my expecting it, as I indicated I got the game Friday night, and Sunday night I found myself with 32 hours of games, so I did nothing other than play it.

So first of all, I find the game too expensive for what it is, yet it's a very good Fallout 5, in terms of gameplay I can't wait to see what Bethesda will come up with next:
-Craft (even if with the new game+ you lose everything)
-Multiple choices that seem more consistent
-Nice talents (I like the system for increasing skills)
-Vessel customization, which I'm not even getting into because there's so much to do.
-More polished animations, etc.

However, during the course of the game, a detail began to catch my eye that I couldn't help but notice: where are the white people?

There are very few white characters, and once you notice this you look to see who the white people are that you come across? The "bad guys", in one way or another, even if they're brought in as quest characters, so they have a background of liar, profiteer, while the blacks are always kind and virtuous, always in the right, while even the Asians are more nuanced, but are also touched by "great kindness", and I was struck by the fact that this universe seems to be a little too focused on joy and cheerfulness: no one is nuanced, the bad guys are bad guys, the good guys are good guys, no one is a bit of a trickster.

And I think at some point you have to name things, there's a big problem with that, however I don't think Bethesda is doing this for fun. As you may know, you can claim support by ticking boxes, and Bethesda is so afraid of losing money that I think they've jumped on every possible support (pronons, other over-represented races, I'm surprised there aren't more trans or gay people).

Overall it's still a good game, I just think it's parasitized by too much stupid and harmful ideology, because the story has a twist that I didn't necessarily expect and that I found very nice, the gameplay, as I had to make clear, does what it's asked to do, it's a good game I think (70€ is too expensive for that though, but again I think Bethesda wants to make a lot of money).

So that's my feeling, I don't know if the post will hold up given the terms used, but I prefer to tell it like it is, you can express yourself (except for those who, as I've seen, will just reply with a stupid sentence like "imagine being triggered by ...", a funny guy will probably do it after reading all that, but for the others, expressing yourself is pointless, you might as well go on to another subject).

I think I've covered the main points, thanks for reading!

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by Necrosynthetik:

If you ever find yourself going "Why aren't there more white people?", I 100% assure you that you are a racist. And I am glow-in-the-dark white.

I assure you you're wrong about me being racist, if it's a bad thing of course
And I'm a hispanic white (spanish) (but why does it matter?)

Originally posted by donut32:

lol these trolls are so lazy. you saw this same topic posted hours ago and then toss out a chat GTP version?

sad

I used deepL to write things because I'm french, so it was more conveniant, and I guess you meant "chatGPT"

[XiL]

You just described EVERY movie or TV show in the last 15 years

Originally posted by Gils_:

and once you notice this you look to see who the white people are that you come across? The "bad guys", in one way or another, even if they're brought in as quest characters, so they have a background of liar, profiteer, while the blacks are always kind and virtuous, always in the right, while even the Asians are more nuanced, but are also touched by "great kindness"

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by XiL:

You just described EVERY movie or TV show in the last 15 years

Originally posted by Gils_:

and once you notice this you look to see who the white people are that you come across? The "bad guys", in one way or another, even if they're brought in as quest characters, so they have a background of liar, profiteer, while the blacks are always kind and virtuous, always in the right, while even the Asians are more nuanced, but are also touched by "great kindness"

To be honest, it seems much less striking in movies and series, although I don't really watch them anymore except for big releases (Star Wars type), otherwise I mostly watch movies made between the late 70s and early 2000s :)

[tank16365]

Weirdly, just like in real life I hadn't noticed because I don't pay attention to that.

[En.Ki]

out of africa = w h i te tr a sh

[Hawk Man]

There are plenty of games that have White people in them. If you don't like what you see in Starfield then stop whining and go find another game to play.

[Rich]

Dystopian future simulator

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by tank16365:

Weirdly, just like in real life I hadn't noticed because I don't pay attention to that.

I didn't really paid attention, it just hit me in a moment while talking to a npc, and then I just couldn't unsee it, like explained in the post

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by En.Ki:

out of africa = w h i te tr a sh

What? ô_o

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by NightHawk:

There are plenty of games that have White people in them. If you don't like what you see in Starfield then stop whining and go find another game to play.

Make a mod to fix that then thanks

[LazyLiz]

They're in these comments freaking out

[XiL]

Originally posted by Gils_:

Originally posted by XiL:

You just described EVERY movie or TV show in the last 15 years

To be honest, it seems much less striking in movies and series, although I don't really watch them anymore except for big releases (Star Wars type), otherwise I mostly watch movies made between the late 70s and early 2000s :)

Not really.
There hasn't been a single movie or TV show made in the last 10-15 years, that has a "bad guy" role played by a non-white. Its so obvious, its hilarious.
Like you said, the morally ambiguous or just straight-up "evil or bad guy" role, goes to straight white males only. The good guys are always non-white.

[baddrguy]

They all in FEMA camps

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by AveryFane:

They're in these comments freaking out

LMAO but why?

Originally posted by baddrguy:

They all in FEMA camps

I had to check to get the joke LOL

[RealityGx]

Originally posted by XiL:

Originally posted by Gils_:

To be honest, it seems much less striking in movies and series, although I don't really watch them anymore except for big releases (Star Wars type), otherwise I mostly watch movies made between the late 70s and early 2000s :)

Not really.
There hasn't been a single movie or TV show made in the last 10-15 years, that has a "bad guy" role played by a non-white. Its so obvious, its hilarious.
Like you said, the morally ambiguous or just straight-up "evil or bad guy" role, goes to straight white males only. The good guys are always non-white.

Oh, now I think about that yeah, even in Scream 5 (even if they put a asian vilain too, but overall the "master" of the murders was the white guy that look like a nerd)