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cozmosis Sep 3, 2023 @ 5:55pm
Anyone using a 2060?
How is performance?

I'm on the fence about getting it until more patches, i don't mind 40-50 fps like I had with CP and other high quality games, but DLSS obviously helps a lot to wrangle out the extra frames.

If it's just close to unplayable even on medium or so settings when it doesn't even look that good it sounds like a pass for now.
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Turbo Soggy Sep 3, 2023 @ 5:56pm 
You’re not gonna have a good time. Watch some benchmarks. It’s not good news for 99% of gamers. I have a 3070 so that’s what I’ve looked into and to maintain 60 FPS I’m gonna need to run the game on low with FSR2 on at 1080p. It doesn’t seem like they ever intended for this game to run at above 30FPS, so once they were able to get it to run at 30 on consoles they quit optimizing immediately.
Last edited by Turbo Soggy; Sep 3, 2023 @ 5:58pm
i am running on 2060 laptop
using all low except population density high+dlss mod+performance optimiser mod
barely 60 fps
Grim Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:06pm 
Yeah, like Turbo said, the game is not performing very well for a lot of people right now, although some have been happy with the performance they are getting. I also have a 3070 (CPU is a Ryzen 7 3700X) and the performance has been a disappointment for sure.

Given that the 2060 is a tad below the official recommended 2080 on the store page, I would wait until Bethesda acknowledges and works on the optimization problem and/or for the modding community to keep improving on it.

There are some performance related mods, such as DLSS, which are already available. This is just my experience, but these mods have not alleviated any of my performance problems significantly.
Last edited by Grim; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:07pm
d[-_-]b Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:07pm 
I have no idea what any of the people above are talking about.
I'm on a 3700x + RTX 2060 and performance is great on medium.
See performance settings in https://youtu.be/40iwgUjBmoA?si=0xkHE-Z94wLNLj-y for extra tweaks.

Also have zero issues with MSFS on high/ultra.
Last edited by d[-_-]b; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:09pm
cozmosis Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:16pm 
I appreciate all the feedback, thanks people. And that's good to know d[-_-]b - i've also enjoyed a lot of MSFS with no problems - a lot of people are not very good at tweaking settings, so I maybe i'll cheese it on gamepass instead of 70 eur on Steam.

Thanks all.
Turbo Soggy Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by cozmosis:
I appreciate all the feedback, thanks people. And that's good to know d[-_-]b - i've also enjoyed a lot of MSFS with no problems - a lot of people are not very good at tweaking settings, so I maybe i'll cheese it on gamepass instead of 70 eur on Steam.

Thanks all.
Watch some benchmarks. It’s not user error. Like I said, the 3070 eats ♥♥♥♥ at 1080p and the lowest settings with FSR2 off. Don’t listen to that guy just because he’s telling you what you want to hear
d[-_-]b Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:19pm 
You can also try the DLSS mod on nexus.
I'm running on 2K on the RTX2060, no problems at all.

This custom ini file is great too, with a couple of additions:
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/282

FOV to 107 for a 16:9 monitor to mimic 90 @ 4:3

[Camera]
fFPWorldFOV=107.0000
fTPWorldFOV=107.0000
[FlightCamera]
fFlightCameraFOV=107.0000
[General]
bEnableMessageOfTheDay=0
SIntroSequence=0
uMainMenuDelayBeforeAllowSkip=0
[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=
[Controls]
bMouseAcceleration=0
fMouseHeadingXScale=0.021
fMouseHeadingYScale=0.03738
fIronSightsPitchSpeedRatio=1
fPitchSpeedRatio=1
# Delay in seconds before the player grabs an interactive object
fQCZKeyDelay=0.3
# Delay in seconds before the player grabs a basic object
fZKeyDelay=0.15


Once you get over the learning curve (~10 to 15 hours) it's great.

Also, formation flying practice with spaceships is totally doable and great fun.
Last edited by d[-_-]b; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:23pm
cozmosis Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Turbo Soggy:
Watch some benchmarks. It’s not user error. Like I said, the 3070 eats ♥♥♥♥ at 1080p and the lowest settings with FSR2 off. Don’t listen to that guy just because he’s telling you what you want to hear
Oh I understand what you're saying, and i've read a lot of forum feedback - i'm certainly not taking one person's positive as a green flag - but I also know from experience that generally people do completely suck at optimizing games for their platform. Zoomers will just wack up ultra detail then complain it isn't 120fps on a 1650.

I'm not even expecting 60fps, or asking for 60fps, I just want to have a playable experience, and if there are people suggesting I can do it, then it might be worth a 12 eur gamepass to try out.
d[-_-]b Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:26pm 
People have no clue about optimising.
They stick everything on Ultra and then complain that it glitches. Duh.
Same with MSFS.

No issues with it on an RTX 2060 on medium with some tweaks.

Also, be wary of what else you're running when starting Starfield, kill all your background apps as it seems sensitive to other apps that might be using the GPU++, though that could be the twitchy DLSS mod at work. Still, best to let it have all the resources.
Last edited by d[-_-]b; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:30pm
Turbo Soggy Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by d-_-b:
People have no clue about optimising.
They stick everything on Ultra and then complain that it glitches. Duh.
Same with MSFS.

No issues with it on an RTX 2060 on medium with some tweaks.
If you would read you’d know the 3070 can handle everything turned as low as it goes. You’re strawmanning
Jaggid Edje Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:30pm 
Originally posted by cozmosis:
How is performance?

I'm on the fence about getting it until more patches, i don't mind 40-50 fps like I had with CP and other high quality games, but DLSS obviously helps a lot to wrangle out the extra frames.

If it's just close to unplayable even on medium or so settings when it doesn't even look that good it sounds like a pass for now.
I have a 2060 Super, and performance is good. It's not "great", but it's good enough. It's steady, with no stuttering, hitching or other anamolies.

I play with most settings on medium except for Grass Quality and GTAO quality, which I have set to High and the following all turned off:
  • TAA
  • Motion Blur
  • Vsync
  • Depth of Field

The game looks very good, imo, with those settings.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029537844

I should mention, I am using DLSS (with the mod available at Nexusmods), but I'm not using any image scaling with it. I've got it set so that it is giving me DLAA. My resolution is 2560 x 1440.
Last edited by Jaggid Edje; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:32pm
d[-_-]b Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:31pm 
Originally posted by Turbo Soggy:
Originally posted by d-_-b:
People have no clue about optimising.
They stick everything on Ultra and then complain that it glitches. Duh.
Same with MSFS.

No issues with it on an RTX 2060 on medium with some tweaks.
If you would read you’d know the 3070 can handle everything turned as low as it goes. You’re strawmanning

Yeah, performance is soooooo bad that RTX 2060 and RTX 2060 super players are just fine on medium with a few tweaks. Whatever.

Even on the standard medium preset with no tweaks or DLSS mod it was fine on my RTX 2060.
Last edited by d[-_-]b; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:33pm
cozmosis Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:40pm 
Not trying to belittle the people who are having problems running or anything, but I very much appreciate the feedback from the people actually with 2060 cards running it - thanks also Jaggid Edje. I think i'll just pick it up on steam anyway since at least then i can refund if it's not working out for me, but I feel motivated by this feedback - thanks again!
d[-_-]b Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:41pm 
Originally posted by cozmosis:
Not trying to belittle the people who are having problems running or anything, but I very much appreciate the feedback from the people actually with 2060 cards running it - thanks also Jaggid Edje. I think i'll just pick it up on steam anyway since at least then i can refund if it's not working out for me, but I feel motivated by this feedback - thanks again!

You can get premium on Frontier for 17% off, just saying😜
I think you need to put at least 10 to 15 hours into it until it clicks before deciding.
There's a lot of systems to learn, and it really doesn't click until you get to the aha moment.

I really don't get all the hate going around for SF tbh.
tiktok attention spanners is a big problem now.

I have 2000+ hrs in MSFS, ~1600 hrs in ED, 150+ in NMS, and refunded Starcitizen twice and all I can say is that Starfield works plenty fine for me technically and gameplay wise. It's not an instant ramen game, it's a slow burn n' learn.

You don't need to obsess about the FPS either, it's fine. Even better with some tweaks.
Looks great to me. I like the base look n' feel, it fits the vibe better than any of the "realism" reshade mods I looked at.
Last edited by d[-_-]b; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:55pm
Grim Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:42pm 
Gamepass is a good idea for testing it out. I think that you will find that the game is very playable if not getting a consistent 60fps isn’t a dealbreaker for you.

Personally, I don’t think Starfield looks visually stunning enough to justify the current performance being seen on many systems, especially on some of those higher end rigs with 4090’s.

For example, Hardware Unboxed just did this video and a 4090 only averaged 91 FPS on High 1440p. That card should probably be doing a lot better than that.

https://youtu.be/vTNiZhEqaKk?si=4IdxTmsfStVIJZz3
Last edited by Grim; Sep 3, 2023 @ 6:45pm
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