Starfield is kinda...boring?

[phroZac]

I've put thousands of hours into Skyrim and Fallout 4 combined and love me a good Bethesda open-world game. I'm 10 hours into Starfield and I'm finding that the BEST part of these games, the *open-world*, is missing. There's your ship, there are cool cities, ship-to-ship space combat, and your standard "dungeons" which are so far a mixed bag for me. One good shootout and a bunch of underwhelming ones. Roaming outside of these little landing areas yields nothing but barren land with barely anything to do.

I dunno. Maybe I'm missing something? Everything else is cool and alright I guess. The visuals are definitely a step up for Bethesda. But the most fun part seems to be gone. That vast open-world with all kinds of random adventures to go on has been replaced with fast travel to POIs that turn out to be not so interesting...

[McReesington]

Originally posted by Bakinda:

Just gotta wait for mods just like with any bethesda game.

I'm already using a few to fix the terrible combat. Vanilla Skyrim and FO4 are garbage too, only with 300+ mods do they start to become gems.

I generally found the only mods the previous games really needed were the PC UI mods, since Bethesda's scale has been terrible for desktop monitor uses ever since they started focusing more on consoles. Whereas this game from a few hours of footage now just looks unappealing for many reasons which mods can't likely fix. A world of identical people behind space suits, bullet sponge enemies and nothing interesting about the combat like medieval weapons or vats, a bland looking world, borderline nonsense storytelling, etc.

[DCBenton]

Yes. It's quite bland and dull so far, every NPC looks exactly the same as each other. And the way the story starts is just pure lazy and cringe. One minute you are a new mine worker, then the next minute you touch a piece of metal and become the leader of an organisation and get given a free spaceship lol. Combat is also meh, just bullet sponge enemies shooting you from miles away, gets old pretty quick.

[pseudokiri]

Bethesda fanbase has grown up. We live with the memories of good ol' days but we were fresher and had less expectations. This game is no different, we just, globally, evolved.

[Humble]

It's was little slow at first, but once I understand how and get used to gameplay, game is getting more fun for me as time went by, depend on your end goal and during of your journeys, main quest is not primary, thought I had to do main quest to unlock here and there. Story was slow, but more interesting once you learn lore here and there. I'm more enjoy lore of this game more than fallout 4 and skyrim.

[Grailer]

Originally posted by pseudokiri:

Bethesda fanbase has grown up. We live with the memories of good ol' days but we were fresher and had less expectations. This game is no different, we just, globally, evolved.

This ^^

[Vaga]

Gotta be honest, i thought the same thing, than i landed on same planet, found this hidden icon, ran to it, found a base on top ground, went inside a lille building which had a elevator.

Found an underground secret HYDRA lookalike base, while in the middle of a great battle, the roof started to open, and a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ship flew down and landed and MORE ENEMIES came out.

TLDR: New ship for me!

[Shemmie]

Originally posted by Deathbringerrr:

Originally posted by Incandescence:

It does lack the "trying to do main quest but end up torn away into 70 hrs of side quests" that previous bethesda games had, Cities do have some of that feeling but not entirely. The world story telling is also severely lacking as well.

Are you insane?? Do you people just not know what youre doing? I just spent 10 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hours doing a faction quest that I'm still not done with that's extremely world building and has some pretty crazy events. Its like its own game in itself. WTF are you people doing?

I'd say the problem is the open world "spreads those stories out". Skyrim and Fallout maps light up with pings of pure story scattered around the map.

For Starfield the map doesn't give that impression of "there's a lot going on".

I found that going to missions, and picking an open mission, leads to random fun side quest. I won't spoil it, but random one last night resulted in superhero side story, a free ship and lots of goodies.

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Theophany:

Yeah, one of Bethesda strong suits has always been world building, handcrafted maps with a soul, telling a story. But here they chose to ruin it with procedurally generated boredom.

At least in No Man's Sky there are vehicles, so you don't have to endure running in a straight line for multiple minutes between the copy pasted points of "interest".

Its literally just as "boring" as fallout and skyrim the quests are better, and its more intersting lol. Fail troll man, you gave yourself away with NMS no ♥♥♥♥ NMS has no meat to it, I get bored in like 4-6 hours every time I boot that game up its like "oh oh new stuff...Ok bored now..." This its like "ok so I got learn to do this oh this is neat side quest, oh oh I need more people to find to work on my ship(s) and my outposts!" While you don't even own it, going "its not NMS 2 I am mad!" Its like yeah its RPG in space child.

And why do I need a vehichle I can't fly my ship but with m203 I can just open map and land anywhere almost and be there in the time it takes the cut scene of my ship to land lol

[Qtael]

Game has 0 innovations
0 uniqueness
And no hook, no visual or audio identity
Gameplay is the same as fallout 4 but in an super empty world

That’s why it’s boring but, if you change your mindset to just a space combat somewhat average rpg and don’t expect nothing crazy, you start to enjoy a journey a bit more
Overall ign were right

[starkmaddness]

Originally posted by DCBenton:

Yes. It's quite bland and dull so far, every NPC looks exactly the same as each other. And the way the story starts is just pure lazy and cringe. One minute you are a new mine worker, then the next minute you touch a piece of metal and become the leader of an organisation and get given a free spaceship lol. Combat is also meh, just bullet sponge enemies shooting you from miles away, gets old pretty quick.

Yes, they copied the mass effect start, then stripped out 90% of the story and called it a day.

Mass Effect 1... touch stone and have vision, join an organization and become a spectre and get a ship. But it felt organic, well written, and didn't happen in the span of five minutes. This feels like a placeholder they never finished, like embarrassingly so.

[McReesington]

Originally posted by starkmaddness:

Originally posted by DCBenton:

Yes. It's quite bland and dull so far, every NPC looks exactly the same as each other. And the way the story starts is just pure lazy and cringe. One minute you are a new mine worker, then the next minute you touch a piece of metal and become the leader of an organisation and get given a free spaceship lol. Combat is also meh, just bullet sponge enemies shooting you from miles away, gets old pretty quick.

Yes, they copied the mass effect start, then stripped out 90% of the story and called it a day.

Mass Effect 1... touch stone and have vision, join an organization and become a spectre and get a ship. But it felt organic, well written, and didn't happen in the span of five minutes. This feels like a placeholder they never finished, like embarrassingly so.

The vision in Mass Effect also has much more of a hook, showing you warnings of death and danger, whereas Starfield just... shows you some stars?

[FandangoChristmas]

Originally posted by I Singularis I:

Originally posted by Carlos Spicywiener:

Not for us dreamers with a wild imagination and dreams of exploring the stars!

No Man's Sky has a better take on imagination of space travel and exploration IMO.

I agree with this too!

[Gigawatts]

Love the slow pace personally, and atmosphere.

[orcama60]

Originally posted by phroZac:

I've put thousands of hours into Skyrim and Fallout 4 combined and love me a good Bethesda open-world game. I'm 10 hours into Starfield and I'm finding that the BEST part of these games, the *open-world*, is missing. There's your ship, there are cool cities, ship-to-ship space combat, and your standard "dungeons" which are so far a mixed bag for me. One good shootout and a bunch of underwhelming ones. Roaming outside of these little landing areas yields nothing but barren land with barely anything to do.

I dunno. Maybe I'm missing something? Everything else is cool and alright I guess. The visuals are definitely a step up for Bethesda. But the most fun part seems to be gone. That vast open-world with all kinds of random adventures to go on has been replaced with fast travel to POIs that turn out to be not so interesting...

>> Yep, that is exactly how I feel. I think there was a lot of marketing that increased our expectations too much and when you start playing this game, you feel cheated.
I remember when I started to play Skyrim, I was so immersed in it that I could not leave the game for anything. The same thing I felt with Fallout 4 and I am still playing those games and I will never get tire of them cause you know what : the mods !

Starfield is like a 'TEMPLATE' .... it is a template game that Bethesda created cause they knew that modders will enhance and finish it and make it much better than Skyrim or Fallout 4. I really have my doubts about my own statement cause there is something in Starfield that does not make you feel right about it.
Graphics are ridiculous bad. Outpost building is unfinished. Ships cannot fly ( 6-7 crew member ships ) more than a 140 which is ridiculous even if you attach the best engines as I did. Loading screens are not that bad. Combat wise is good. Variety of weapons are good. Audio is good .... but .... there is something that does not attach me to the game, it does not have the magic, the magnetism Skyrim and Fallout 4 still have or had from the very beginning.
I feel like boring, like the game is too tedious and/or that it could be better. Again, I think that once we have access to x-edit and mods are released, then, and only then, this game will change my opinion.
At this point, after played it for 45 hours, I can feel that I have not desire to restart it again. It does feel overwhelmed. I have played Skyrim more than 2000 hours and Fallout 4 more than 1700 hours and I continue playing them and I do not feel tire or bore about them. Something is not right and I do hope that modders can fix it but that will happen I guess in the next year or so.
In the meantime, I am waiting for Assassin Creed Mirage that I will bet, it will have excellent graphics and a great story.
Excuse me Bethesda but if you are working on the next Skryim ( Elder Scroll VI ) and you do not pay attention to our feedback, you will fail in your goal. You have to come out with something super much better than all the games you have created and remember, graphics play a decisive rol in gaming ... humans are attracted by beautiful things and the first impression. Obviously, you have failed with Starfield cause we are comparing it with prior games ( Skyrim and Fallout 4 just to mention ) and there is not a great abbys of difference between them after you have spent years trying to come out with something that you assured it will be much better.

You were wrong !

[iGoTKiDs2FeEd]

Originally posted by Deathbringerrr:

Games not for you and you don't know how to play it. There! That's what you should have said. This game is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ huge its ridiculous. The paths you can take and the ♥♥♥♥ you can do is incredible. you can get jobs, Do side missions, join factions( that branches into so much ♥♥♥♥) be a drug dealer, a pirate, millitary, whatever you want to do. Explore! Talk to people! You must suck at rpgs/ games.. That's not an insult, its just an observation of people who think a game with so much to do is boring.

Could you ♥♥♥ ride even harder? You’re a Bethesda fanboy, congratulations. I’m happy you can be entertained by so little. If Todd Howard had an onlyfans, you’d be his biggest donor.