STUTTERING/FREEZING FIX

[KodeMan]

Took this straight from reddit

"If you have bad stutters and or freezing on a good PC or any PC Download Battle Encoder Shirase Once it is downloaded open it up Click target, and find starfield.exe (game has to be open) Double click starfield.exe And drag the slider from -5% to -10% I have I at -8%

I hope that works for you guys please try if your having issues"

https://mion.yosei.fi/BES/

I set mine to -3 and fixed all my issues.

[|TeM| Reikhardt]

But wait, Todd said the game is 'running great!'

https://www.pcgamesn.com/starfield/optimization

[K§H]

This is of course only going to help if you're CPU bound with a CPU that is running at max capacity/speed and constantly hitting a ceiling, causing all kinds of bad things to happen. The downside of course is that you will lose framerate by limiting the CPU usage, but I guess that is a much smaller problem than freezes.

[-=Bronze=-]

-9% was the sweet spot for me. I can't believe this fixed it.

[[TEZ] Tai Astrofengia]

Howdy, y'all, I think I've managed to find a solution for my unique circumstances - and this may help you as well.

For those of you who are not having much success with using BES to limit CPU usage, and you're running Starfield off an SSD and still stuttering, your problem may be rooted in the CPU itself. Most modern CPUs have a feature called 'Virtualization' which allows your computer's processor to behave like multiple, individual CPUs. This allows Windows to host multiple operating systems on it.

EDIT: I have also become aware that his also lends to some security features in Windows, particularly the kernel, so take that into consideration as well, though this can also affect performance along with the above.

However, this is not useful towards the typical end-user, as it is mostly developers and testers who use it to work with multiple operating systems simultaneously. It is also known to affect performance negatively on PCs, and this is where Starfield has been known to struggle.

In order to turn off Virtualization, you will need to go into your computer's BIOS settings and shut off Virtualization in your CPU options. Unfortunately, multiple people may have different options for virtualization on their PC depending on their hardware, but the most common names are:

- SVM Mode
- IOMMU
- Intel(R) Virtualization Technology

Make sure these are disabled in your BIOS, if you have them. Again, depending on your PC's hardware configuration, you may see multiple, or only one. For me, it was only Intel(R) Virtualization Technology that I needed to disable. If you don't see any of the options above, I would advise looking it up for your particular BIOS, or hardware.

(Or perhaps your hardware doesn't support virtualization - in which case, this will not help you.)

Next time you run Starfield, make sure you use BES as instructed in OP's post. This should reduce the overall stuttering for your game at this point!

TL;DR: Turn off virtualization in your computer's BIOS settings. That is known to cause performance issues in general, especially if you are not using virtual machines, or running multiple operating systems on your computer.

[Saeed.KH]

Wow man, thanX i did lots of solution and got bored, i was in my bed when found your solution and told myself lets do this one to, and voila it did the job man, i set it to -8 and i have no more sudden freeze middle of the game it is smooth like butter, thank you again!

[pdunn21]

Origineel geplaatst door Luke:

Origineel geplaatst door minisith:

Run the program as Administrator.

same thing I tried running as admin but still doesnt show up

The game has to be running first.

[0.17 mph when threatened]

IF I ramble on and make no sense forgive me, it's late and I'm just sad I let Todd down by not having that magical Starfield experience Mr. Howard wants me to have.

My game is normally pretty good fps/smooth but I have awful frame drops like it's loading lots of assets and the fps tanks substantially for a split second. I've tried NVME boot, Sata SSD, process lasso, BES (not sure this would help me in particular but I only went up to maybe -5%), I've tried capping fps at 60, 100, 120 etc.

I use 1k textures mod, LOD mod from nexus. I also downloaded an ini that turns a few settings down that did help some. I just can't seem to eliminate this stutter from wandering the "open" world(s). Indoors is fine I guess just outside that irritates and ruins the experience.

I've considered purchasing a 7800x3d/mobo/ram to make a swap over but 700 before tax just to gain maybe 20 FPS for one game seems a little, silly. I'm not 100% sure it'd help either but maybe.

3080 10gb latest drivers
10700k factory settings
3600mhz cl16 ddr4
MSI MAG Z490
NVME/SSD
Win10 22h2 latest available in update
all mobo drivers/bios etc updated but I haven't flashed 3080 to make use of rebar. I've tried H.A.G.S off / on makes little difference but not 100% sure.

For now I just cap FPS to whatever floats my boat and turn off FPS monitoring and pretend I listened to Todd and just upgraded my barely 2.5 year old potato PC.

[Basswutz666]

Origineel geplaatst door TEZ Tai Astrofengia:

Howdy, y'all, I think I've managed to find a solution for my unique circumstances - and this may help you as well.

For those of you who are not having much success with using BES to limit CPU usage, and you're running Starfield off an SSD and still stuttering, your problem may be rooted in the CPU itself. Most modern CPUs have a feature called 'Virtualization' which allows your computer's processor to behave like multiple, individual CPUs. This allows Windows to host multiple operating systems on it.

EDIT: I have also become aware that his also lends to some security features in Windows, particularly the kernel, so take that into consideration as well, though this can also affect performance along with the above.

However, this is not useful towards the typical end-user, as it is mostly developers and testers who use it to work with multiple operating systems simultaneously. It is also known to affect performance negatively on PCs, and this is where Starfield has been known to struggle.

In order to turn off Virtualization, you will need to go into your computer's BIOS settings and shut off Virtualization in your CPU options. Unfortunately, multiple people may have different options for virtualization on their PC depending on their hardware, but the most common names are:

- SVM Mode
- IOMMU
- Intel(R) Virtualization Technology

Make sure these are disabled in your BIOS, if you have them. Again, depending on your PC's hardware configuration, you may see multiple, or only one. For me, it was only Intel(R) Virtualization Technology that I needed to disable. If you don't see any of the options above, I would advise looking it up for your particular BIOS, or hardware.

(Or perhaps your hardware doesn't support virtualization - in which case, this will not help you.)

Next time you run Starfield, make sure you use BES as instructed in OP's post. This should reduce the overall stuttering for your game at this point!

TL;DR: Turn off virtualization in your computer's BIOS settings. That is known to cause performance issues in general, especially if you are not using virtual machines, or running multiple operating systems on your computer.

Greetings friends,
i might have found a solution for the stuttering, which - in my case - was caused by the SSD being at 100% usage:
Go into your BIOS, find the entry "Intel (VMX) Virtualization Technology " and disable it.
I found it here: UEFI Bios Utility > Advanced > CPU Configuration. I have an Intel System, if you are using other systems try searching for "virtualization bios option".
I stumbled upon this while doing some research, dont know what this option is exactly doing, but my SSD now is at max 70% usage while loading areas, no more stuttering and very very few audio lags while starting dialogs.
Also, while being in the BIOS, check if hyperthreading is enabled.
If anyone trying this could confirm my solution it would be great!
Cheers and have a good day :)

Update: I take this for a confirmation of Tais recommandation

[Dutch]

So that program pretty much fixed my game's issues. My setting was at 33 and even the first time trying 9 fixed so much. The menu UI and loading screeens are no longer choppy, the game isn't stuttering and having these microfreezes every couple minutes, it's playable now. Going to try a few of the other fixes and try to get everything bumped up to ultra. I knew it was Bethesda and not my PC. Thank you for this!!

[IchigoMait]

No need.

I have all cpu cores unparked.
I use process lasso.
I set steam.exe with induce performance mode and cpu priority below normal.

0 stutters, even though the game fps goes from 30-60+, depending what's in view.

[alejandroK]

Origineel geplaatst door IchigoMait:

No need.

I have all cpu cores unparked.
I use process lasso.
I set steam.exe with induce performance mode and cpu priority below normal.

0 stutters, even though the game fps goes from 30-60+, depending what's in view.

thanks, everything works better, especially the ui changes but i still have some freezes from time to time.

[IchigoMait]

Origineel geplaatst door alejandroK:

Origineel geplaatst door IchigoMait:

No need.

I have all cpu cores unparked.
I use process lasso.
I set steam.exe with induce performance mode and cpu priority below normal.

0 stutters, even though the game fps goes from 30-60+, depending what's in view.

thanks, everything works better, especially the ui changes but i still have some freezes from time to time.

Oh also if you have only like the min amount of ram, you can increase it with page file, setting it's min/max to the same value and enough that whatever windows needs and the game needs, basically just have 8GB page file if you have 16GB ram, though double would be better, that I learned the hard way with Marvel's Spider-Man, when I had 16GB ram and somehow made the page file system managed, the game started crashing or didn't even start up when using higher than low settings, after putting 15GB min-max page file, I was able to play that at max settings without crashing, the game would run fps wise fine, but yeah crashing wise that was a nice fix.
Now I have 48GB ram, so I'm good.

Point being try to have ram enough for the system and the game, when I wasn't doing anything on win10 windows was just using up 7GB of ram. Right now with firefox with 6 tabs open and steam client open it's at 8.3GB of ram, haven't run any game yet even, just booted up my pc.

[[TEZ] Tai Astrofengia]

Origineel geplaatst door alejandroK:

Origineel geplaatst door IchigoMait:

No need.

I have all cpu cores unparked.
I use process lasso.
I set steam.exe with induce performance mode and cpu priority below normal.

0 stutters, even though the game fps goes from 30-60+, depending what's in view.

thanks, everything works better, especially the ui changes but i still have some freezes from time to time.

Howdy, alejandro,

I am considering doing this to see if this assists with loading stutters - if you could provide the instructions, I can see if that will sort out the rest of the issues.

Thank you!

[Zhorge]

Origineel geplaatst door KodeMan:

Took this straight from reddit

"If you have bad stutters and or freezing on a good PC or any PC Download Battle Encoder Shirase Once it is downloaded open it up Click target, and find starfield.exe (game has to be open) Double click starfield.exe And drag the slider from -5% to -10% I have I at -8%

I hope that works for you guys please try if your having issues"

https://mion.yosei.fi/BES/

I set mine to -3 and fixed all my issues.

That's pretty cool. I don't have the problem, but if I did, I'd use it. Thank you and take some well-earned points!

[Maky]

Origineel geplaatst door grawl:

Origineel geplaatst door Zapp Brannigan:

why does that work wtf ???

Origineel geplaatst door Jimmy James:

It's a CPU limiter? Could this be achieved just by lowering CPU priority in task manager?

I'd be curious to learn why this works if it does.

I have the "5-10 seconds freeze every 2-3 minutes or so", with a peak (100%) in CPU usage right at the time of the freeze. Then it goes smoothly like before. I've got more than enough RAM (24Go) an SSD and a decent video card (RTX 2060). The only issue with my rig is the CPU, a not-so-new i5 with 4 cores (sry can't remember the specific model), and Starfield requires at least 6 cores, as I understand.

And this workaround definitely did it for me.
Man what a relief !
FWIW, Battle Encoder Shirasé is an open source program under the GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE, and looks pretty safe. Feel free to check the source code if you have a doubt !

I am currently using a VERY conservative -10% limiting, and will try lowering it as it goes.


It seems like Starfield threads are not caring about limiting themelves, so if the resources are limited (as in a scarce core count), it will end up filling those juicy ticks needed by the other system's threads. That results in a big-ass freeze of the system, while the CPU finishes handling Starfield's overflowing instructions.
At least that's my understanding. Any thoughts ?

Yeap..starfield is disaster optimize game, maybe worst even for bethesda ..game is not that good looking, and nothing new , old elements, its just broken, luckly there is mod, i have ssd 120gb, i resize texture, starfield is 70 gb now, fits on ssd , full hd, 60 fps, on old crap i5 6gen, rx 580 8gb ..♥♥♥♥ i know, but with some moding, game is playable.. i am only gratefull this game dont have denuvo, ..