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helix Sep 1, 2023 @ 10:58pm
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Remove AVX instruction!
I wanted to buy Starfield, but they say that it requires AVX and therefore does not run on Xeon. I'm just wondering why AVX is needed on such an old engine? It is almost no different from the outdated Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
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Astral Projection Sep 1, 2023 @ 11:01pm 
Just a guess, but probably to do with the engine running on multiple consoles?
Zazzone Sep 1, 2023 @ 11:03pm 
Se non hai le istruzioni avx vuol dire che hai un computer di 10 anni fa
helix Sep 1, 2023 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by Zazzone:
Se non hai le istruzioni avx vuol dire che hai un computer di 10 anni fa
Why does it matter if most modern games, including those on UE5 don't require AVX. AVX started to be used in some games only in the last 1-2 years, where you could do just fine without it.
helix Sep 2, 2023 @ 2:55am 
Originally posted by Astral Projection:
Just a guess, but probably to do with the engine running on multiple consoles?
I don't think it has anything to do with that. Developers can easily remove AVX instructions on PC, only question is whether they will do it even after fan requests.
Last edited by helix; Sep 2, 2023 @ 2:56am
coupler Sep 2, 2023 @ 11:14am 
I am hoping this can be modded out by someone crafty.
CushyCrux Sep 2, 2023 @ 11:15am 
so it can run at 30 fps instead of 12.
CushyCrux Sep 2, 2023 @ 11:16am 
op buy a 5820k for 30 bucks on ebay. it has AVX.
Driko Sep 2, 2023 @ 12:55pm 
Originally posted by CushyCrux:
op buy a 5820k for 30 bucks on ebay. it has AVX.

not everyone lives in US where tech is resold for such low price.
eg: here in brazil everything is expensive.

minimum salary: 1300
rent: 800
groceries:500
water+electric+gas:400.

I guess you can see where I'm going.
Even if they intend to use AVX on their games, I don't see why it hurts allowing those that can't afford AVX right now to play their game.
V rising and many other games you can just delete the lib_burst_generated.dll and the game works fine.
But with hardcoded AVX instructions into the EXE just f* non-avx cpu users.
Qoojo Sep 2, 2023 @ 12:58pm 
It's over a decade old at this point so might as well complain about no 32-bit version too.
Zunnoab #931 Sep 2, 2023 @ 1:01pm 
The "old engine" meme relies on ignorance of how programs work. See Half-Life Alyx using the same light flicker code as Quake or literally every modern operating system of note using 3+ decade year old code.
helix Sep 3, 2023 @ 2:09am 
Originally posted by Qoojo:
It's over a decade old at this point so might as well complain about no 32-bit version too.
32-bit is essentially not a requirement. As well as AVX, without which dozens of modern games can easily do, even on the UE5 engine. AVX carries nothing but an impediment to playing the game.
Driko Sep 3, 2023 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by helix:
Originally posted by Qoojo:
It's over a decade old at this point so might as well complain about no 32-bit version too.
32-bit is essentially not a requirement. As well as AVX, without which dozens of modern games can easily do, even on the UE5 engine. AVX carries nothing but an impediment to playing the game.
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Qoojo Sep 3, 2023 @ 9:56am 
Originally posted by helix:
Originally posted by Qoojo:
It's over a decade old at this point so might as well complain about no 32-bit version too.
32-bit is essentially not a requirement. As well as AVX, without which dozens of modern games can easily do, even on the UE5 engine. AVX carries nothing but an impediment to playing the game.

Point was that avx instruction set is archaic at this point, almost as bad as having a 32-bit cpu but not quite. Also, it's not an impediment. This is not an insult; you would be better off with a console.
D I A B L O Sep 3, 2023 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by CushyCrux:
op buy a 5820k for 30 bucks on ebay. it has AVX.
x99 mobos apparently not cheap
Yossarrian Sep 5, 2023 @ 12:35am 
Cyberpunk had the same avx bs at launch. Cyberpunk was made with nvidia partnership. Nvidia do not manufacture CPUs so CDPR fixed the AVX requirements fairly soon after launch. Starfield on the other hand was made with AMD partnership. They wont be dropping/fixing AVX instructions for older CPUs anytime soon as they want you to buy their new CPU to play the game. Simple as that. Thats my humble guess.
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