Why are NPCS so UGLY

[marco2000b]

Skyrim Npcs were way less uglier, is tha on purpose ?

[Otaku]

https://clips.twitch.tv/NiceInventiveSproutPermaSmug-G2pD1UdgCESKGMoP

[GrandTickler]

evolution has reverted to the point where everyone is becoming cave men again
also its a lot easier to make ugly models compared to pretty ones, ever noticed how every streamer ends up creating the most ugly character they can make just for the lolz? i assume bethesda did the same to save time

edit: at least the character creator allows us to make desireable results. that used to be a lot worse in fallout/skyrim

we'll have to rely on modders to un-uglyfy the npcs

[AdahnGorion]

Messaggio originale di PaulGR:

Messaggio originale di AdahnGorion:

The issue is not sex depending, it is both sexes that look atrocious.
Its a limitation with the engine, this is also why you can´t model kids in it... I mean.. people actually think half the young characters in this game are 50+

You can see that the eyes, shapes and such are rather off, becuase they can´t mold them properly with this engine. They just always look odd, unless you make the same round shape (that works well enough in this engine) but the rest is off putting in most cases.

Here is an example of a random npc ingame, this is what the avarage npc on the street look like. I can´t say if they are pretty or ugly, that is subjective, but I can say they look rather unrealistic and spooky to me.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3029957010

No, it is not an engine issue.

They purposefully made characters to look ugly and gender-less.

I can tell you right now, mods will fix this soon based on the very same engine. It is a matter of face sculpting. Yes, characters look like wax-museum due to the bad engine, but the morphology of the faces has nothing to do with it. It's a human hand that made them this ugly.

Have a look at the "female" MC preset models.

The presets looks fine, the issue with them is in the engine, as I said some shapes comes off very weird and it has been that way in prior games as well.

[EmperorVolo]

Messaggio originale di marco2000b:

Skyrim Npcs were way less uglier, is tha on purpose ?

The lack of body differences is extremely bizarre they had an amazing RPG system that before. Man if Elder Scrolls updates with this level of garbage it's going to kill Bethesda off.

Before they had a modular system now it's completely static.

Messaggio originale di AdahnGorion:

The presets looks fine, the issue with them is in the engine, as I said some shapes comes off very weird and it has been that way in prior games as well.

That's a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Not even REMOTELY close in the same design or coding. Not even remotely. This doesn't use CREATION ENGINES modular body system with adaptable bodies. These are completely static choose A or choose B. I can only assume you never played any Elder Scroll games.

[AdahnGorion]

Messaggio originale di EmperorVolo:

Messaggio originale di marco2000b:

Skyrim Npcs were way less uglier, is tha on purpose ?

The lack of body differences is extremely bizarre they had an amazing RPG system that before. Man if Elder Scrolls updates with this level of garbage it's going to kill Bethesda off.

Before they had a modular system now it's completely static.

Messaggio originale di AdahnGorion:

The presets looks fine, the issue with them is in the engine, as I said some shapes comes off very weird and it has been that way in prior games as well.

That's a load of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Not even REMOTELY close in the same design or coding. Not even remotely. This doesn't use CREATION ENGINES modular body system with adaptable bodies. These are completely static choose A or choose B. I can only assume you never played any Elder Scroll games.

I´ve played all of them. But we are talking about the modern ones.
I could tinker a lot with the presets, albeit its not a very good CC, that we can agree on

[PaulGR]

Messaggio originale di AdahnGorion:

Messaggio originale di PaulGR:

No, it is not an engine issue.

They purposefully made characters to look ugly and gender-less.

I can tell you right now, mods will fix this soon based on the very same engine. It is a matter of face sculpting. Yes, characters look like wax-museum due to the bad engine, but the morphology of the faces has nothing to do with it. It's a human hand that made them this ugly.

Have a look at the "female" MC preset models.

The presets looks fine, the issue with them is in the engine, as I said some shapes comes off very weird and it has been that way in prior games as well.

You are trolling and it shows. Or you have never played a Bethesda game before.

Having a look at female presets they all look like dudes on hormones trying to transition. This is not an engine limitation. It's a face sculpting issue.

Mods will fix this easily based on the very same engine.

[AdahnGorion]

Messaggio originale di PaulGR:

Messaggio originale di AdahnGorion:

The presets looks fine, the issue with them is in the engine, as I said some shapes comes off very weird and it has been that way in prior games as well.

You are trolling and it shows. Or you have never played a Bethesda game before.

Having a look at female presets they all look like dudes on hormones trying to transition. This is not an engine limitation. It's a face sculpting issue.

I don´t agree. There are plenty of presets that look feminine, albeit like with ie. Skyrim and Oblivion, its hard to get those sculps within the engine.
You seem to be stuck on hating.

You can be certain, that this will change with UE5

[Refrag]

Messaggio originale di PaulGR:

Messaggio originale di AdahnGorion:

The presets looks fine, the issue with them is in the engine, as I said some shapes comes off very weird and it has been that way in prior games as well.

You are trolling and it shows. Or you have never played a Bethesda game before.

Having a look at female presets they all look like dudes on hormones trying to transition. This is not an engine limitation. It's a face sculpting issue.

Mods will fix this easily based on the very same engine.

You just know those mods will be banned because of some nonsense reason.

[Rincewind]

Messaggio originale di akaplan1:

Bethesda has never been very talented in terms of animation, voice acting, or otherwise lifelike NPCs. That's just par for the course with them. They usually excel in other areas... usually.

They could hire better one.... just simple....

[Rincewind]

Short haired womans are in every game where the devs are too lazy to build right well looking hairs.... just like that

[PaulGR]

Messaggio originale di AdahnGorion:

Messaggio originale di PaulGR:

You are trolling and it shows. Or you have never played a Bethesda game before.

Having a look at female presets they all look like dudes on hormones trying to transition. This is not an engine limitation. It's a face sculpting issue.

I don´t agree. There are plenty of presets that look feminine, albeit like with ie. Skyrim and Oblivion, its hard to get those sculps within the engine.
You seem to be stuck on hating.

You can be certain, that this will change with UE5

Practically every single preset female looks like a dude. Face sculpting is not an engine issue. Mods will fix this using the same engine. If manly hormone-women is your thing, that's ok. Not judging. But that won't change reality.

[Brother Atheos]

Beauty goes against a certain political narrative. Especially female beauty. Cant have that anymore.

[Sunshine]

Messaggio originale di Kashra Fall:

Messaggio originale di AveryFane:

WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE
https://imgur.io/u5fTZ9P

those are citizens, aka background characters designed to give you the idea the city is alive. Why do you think you can turn them on/off?

Hands down the worst excuse yet, thank you.

[Thadeus]

Messaggio originale di Refrag:

Messaggio originale di PaulGR:

You are trolling and it shows. Or you have never played a Bethesda game before.

Having a look at female presets they all look like dudes on hormones trying to transition. This is not an engine limitation. It's a face sculpting issue.

Mods will fix this easily based on the very same engine.

You just know those mods will be banned because of some nonsense reason.

No one can ban mods. Bethesda has 0 control over the client-side of the game, where mods are.

[SHADOWTHX]

wait a minute are you saying i have to spend £85 on a game and wait for mods to make it playable