Lockpicking is trash

[Astraeos]

I'm pretty much done with this whole game because of lockpicking. Trying to solve Advanced or Expert locks is literally impossible. It makes zero sense. I've been unable to solve a single Advanced or higher lock. Not a single one. Every single one I've encountered has a combination of six or more keys that LITERALLY HAVE NO POSSIBLE WAY TO FIT INTO THE LOCK. IN ANY POSSIBLE COMBINATION.

I dont' get it. Lockpicking makes no sense, what so ever. How are you supposed to fit six ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ keys into this lock, when there is literally no possible way given for them to all fit?

I don't get it. This is literally the worst and most dumbest lockpicking system I've ever encountered in any video game ever. Who the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ greenlit this ♥♥♥♥?

Are Advanced and higher locks just completely bugged out? Why am I able to solve lower level locks with zero problems, but Advanced ones have literally no solution? What the actual flying ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ am I missing here?

[Tobio]

not all rings need to fit into the lock, there are left overs sometimes.

[McGeorgeOfTheJungle]

The lockpicking uses logic to work out from the available options the best way to fill in the gaps. It isn't impossible, it is challenging, I am sure when your skill in lockpicking increases the gaps etc will lessen to more easier to work out options.

[Samuraiworld]

You are right, OP. It's a really stupid mini-game/system, I'm not saying I don't understand it but I think it's convoluted and not fun at all. If you ♥♥♥♥ up even one time you're pretty much screwed unless you have another digipick. I'm at the point where I'm just not going to even bother lockpicking anything in the game, ♥♥♥♥ it. The few boxes I have unlocked didn't contain anything good, mostly ammo and some credits. It's not worth the hassle, I guess higher level locks will have better stuff.

I did notice if you can get your Security perk up to rank 2 it'll highlight the keys you need or something? It does seem to make it somewhat easier I guess. The only other thing I can think is if someone makes a mod to automatically unlock every locked box, like a skeleton key mod or something.

[Samuraiworld]

Originally posted by McGeorgeOfTheJungle:

The lockpicking uses logic to work out from the available options the best way to fill in the gaps. It isn't impossible, it is challenging, I am sure when your skill in lockpicking increases the gaps etc will lessen to more easier to work out options.

Bethesda clearly is overestimating people's ability or desire to spend that much time on a lockpicking minigame, from a design standpoint, making something overly complex and tedious doesn't make it fun.

[GrandTickler]

dunno if higher difficulty locks change the mechanic but due to lack of tooltip stating that u can click on the 4 rings, or use Q to cycle trough them it took a while before i figured out u just need to pre-arange them before you even begin the attempt, making it impossible to fail the digpicking. 2 attempts for the outer ring and 2 for the inner

[Jeremy]

i felt the same wa at first. it doesnt explain it at all but once u figure it out its very very simple. its hard to explain but u will have leftover rings. i quite enjoy the lock picking. it just has to click with u and it becomes easy

[tmaddox]

I enjoy the lock picking, but I also enjoy puzzle games too.

It requires logic and a little thinking ahead.

"Yes, this circle fits in the outer ring. If I place it i have these remaining gaps to fill. Do I have any remaining circles that will fill those gaps?"

Just because a circle can fit in the ring is no guarantee that it should be placed in that ring.

[LykosVT]

Best way is to work from the inside out. Lockpicking is extremely fun, but I also don't mind having to engage more than half a brain cell to think between fights and exploring.

[ÆœŽ SYGNOSTiC]

skill issue lmfao