AMD graphics are garbage, no full ray tracing, no DLSS, might make this game a PASS

[grimoire]

This game could've been so classic but Bethesda decided to cave to suits/marketing guys and cut a deal with the devil rather than include the most advanced technology available in terms of ray tracing and DLSS.

Yeah, AMD has ray tracing, but it is very very weak compared to Nvidia, so that means the game will most likely only support one type of ray traced effect rather than a full array of them. Using FSR instead of DLSS is almost as bad.

Might go from a definite buy to a total pass.

[patrick68794]

lol

[stephen-bridge1]

Ok, bye

[Wenzel]

XD

[raubrey]

Not everyone wants to pay for NVIDIA's ego and ripoffs.

No issues with AMD here and I have used NVIDIA for 20 years.

(I know this is trolling but some will take it serious).

[Pocketofskulls]

Nvidia DLC in the works i bet :P

[בתאניה]

Rumor is AMD is releasing FSR3 with Starfield, which should work on all GPU's ..it's supposed to have something similar to frame generation.

I have also used nvidia for 10 years before switching to AMD and I like their cards better, I don't need RT, but when implemented correctly it works great on AMD cards without too much of a drop in FPS.

[grimoire]

Originally posted by raubrey:

Not everyone wants to pay for NVIDIA's ego and ripoffs.

No issues with AMD here and I have used NVIDIA for 20 years.

(I know this is trolling but some will take it serious).

Look man I just want the most ray tracing possible with today's technology. That is the beginning and end of it. Bethesda doesn't need to play silly games like this and screw over the players by not including a full suite of ray traced effects. This could've been the best game ever, now it won't stand up for even more than a few years because its visuals will look so dated.

[grimoire]

Originally posted by בתאניה:

Rumor is AMD is releasing FSR3 with Starfield, which should work on all GPU's ..it's supposed to have something similar to frame generation.

My biggest issue is ray tracing, not even DLSS. Not including DLSS is a sign that they have almost certainly limited the ray tracing to what AMD hardware can do (like RE:Village for example).

[בתאניה]

Originally posted by grimoire:

Originally posted by raubrey:

Not everyone wants to pay for NVIDIA's ego and ripoffs.

No issues with AMD here and I have used NVIDIA for 20 years.

(I know this is trolling but some will take it serious).

Look man I just want the most ray tracing possible with today's technology. That is the beginning and end of it. Bethesda doesn't need to play silly games like this and screw over the players by not including a full suite of ray traced effects. This could've been the best game ever, now it won't stand up for even more than a few years because its visuals will look so dated.

You do realize RT is already in the game, and the XBOX is AMD hardware right? ..lol

[grimoire]

Originally posted by בתאניה:

Originally posted by grimoire:

Look man I just want the most ray tracing possible with today's technology. That is the beginning and end of it. Bethesda doesn't need to play silly games like this and screw over the players by not including a full suite of ray traced effects. This could've been the best game ever, now it won't stand up for even more than a few years because its visuals will look so dated.

You do realize RT is already in the game, and the XBOX is AMD hardware right? ..lol

You aren't listening. It will be like RE:Village. Partial ray tracing. Not a full array of effects like ambient occlusion AND ray traced shadows AND global illumination AND reflections all at once. AMD hardware CANNOT DO THAT.

[stephen-bridge1]

Originally posted by grimoire:

Originally posted by בתאניה:

You do realize RT is already in the game, and the XBOX is AMD hardware right? ..lol

You aren't listening. It will be like RE:Village. Partial ray tracing. Not a full array of effects like ambient occlusion AND ray traced shadows AND global illumination AND reflections all at once. AMD hardware CANNOT DO THAT.

The game has global illumination built in
https://www.gamesradar.com/starfields-lighting-will-adapt-to-the-planet-youre-on/

[בתאניה]

Originally posted by grimoire:

Originally posted by בתאניה:

You do realize RT is already in the game, and the XBOX is AMD hardware right? ..lol

You aren't listening. It will be like RE:Village. Partial ray tracing. Not a full array of effects like ambient occlusion AND ray traced shadows AND global illumination AND reflections all at once. AMD hardware CANNOT DO THAT.

Not on consoles, but on PC with my 7900XTX it CAN do that, I can run Cyberpunk 2077 with RT overdrive and still get 45FPS. Thats full RT. if they add FSR3 to that with the frame generation like Nvidia that FPS will be much much higher.

[[Kartell]Captain Data]

Seriously: Raytracing eats up Performance like hell. To mitigate that, Nvidia has invented DLSS tech to upscale images so they can internally render smaller scaled images with less raytracing performance requirement. In the end you get LESS quality with MORE power consumption.

There's a damn good reason why Raytracing is a gimmick, not a feature in most current-day games.

[grimoire]

Originally posted by stephen-bridge1:

Originally posted by grimoire:

You aren't listening. It will be like RE:Village. Partial ray tracing. Not a full array of effects like ambient occlusion AND ray traced shadows AND global illumination AND reflections all at once. AMD hardware CANNOT DO THAT.

The game has global illumination built in

Can it do all of ray traced ambient occlusion, ray traced shadows, ray traced global illumination, and ray traced reflections at once? Because AFAIK that won't work on any AMD hardware especially not at 4k.

[grimoire]

Originally posted by בתאניה:

Originally posted by grimoire:

You aren't listening. It will be like RE:Village. Partial ray tracing. Not a full array of effects like ambient occlusion AND ray traced shadows AND global illumination AND reflections all at once. AMD hardware CANNOT DO THAT.

Not on consoles, but on PC with my 7900XTX it CAN do that, I can run Cyberpunk 2077 with RT overdrive and still get 45FPS. Thats full RT. if they add FSR3 to that with the frame generation like Nvidia that FPS will be much much higher.

45FPS at 4k? Not terrible. If this game supports all 4 types of ray traced effects then I will buy it for sure.