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JamesJB Aug 22, 2023 @ 10:14am
SSD or NVME?
I ask cause I read somewhere it will need a SSD I mean something like this; https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08QB93S6R?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

or will it be fine on something like this;
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M7Q21N7?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

I am asking this cause when I first brought Diablo 4 and installed it on my NVME it would not work right but when I installed it on my SSD it worked fine. I just recently reinstalled Diablo 4 on my NVME and now it works fine lol,maybe it got patched or something.
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Deadoon Aug 22, 2023 @ 12:51pm 
Originally posted by FriendCalledFive:
Originally posted by Deadoon:
Some games don't transfer well for some reason. Some when transferring trigger a full redownload, even with a massive amount of space available.

Nonsense.
Originally posted by Deadoon:
PSO2 is one such game. I moved it off my main drive while cleaning out lots of junk files to manage space a bit better, and it would redownload when I used the transfer function back.

Payday 2 also can sometimes trigger it as well as warframe. It isn't perfectly consistent though.

This is all using the steam move install folder function.

Originally posted by look at the clown:
warframe uses external launcher that downloads extra data so it's not surprising it's not as simple to move

i dunno about the other two

99% of games can be moved without issue

Originally posted by Deadoon:
It might have something to do with file count PSO2 has nearly 150k files right now, and that is without classic installed, only NGS.
Rich Aug 22, 2023 @ 12:52pm 
NVME/M2 is better if you got an available slot.
Mack Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
For a game it doesn't matter sata vs nvme, but you still want to get one that has DRAM.

Regular 2.5" Sata is going to be easy to install as long as you have a spare sata power cable and your PC isn't filled with hard drives that are taking up the sata connection spots. As long as you get a locking sata cable you can just tape it down or use blutack or velcro (and obvious most cases now have 2.5" drive slots), or be ultra lazy and just leave it hanging in the bottom of the case.

If your board has an M.2 port that's easy to reach then those are very easy

Just make sure if you have an M.2 slot that you know if it's a Sata M.2 or NVME m.2, or can do both.

If you can get an NVME drive then get one of those because they're faster even though the real world application isn't that much difference in performance to the view of the user.

My suggestions for a good quality (with dram) drive that isn't too expensive and is pretty widely available are:
2.5" or M.2 Sata = Crucial MX500
M.2 NVME = Crucial P5 Plus or SK Hynix Platinum P41
You might also be able to get a Samsung 970, 980 or 990, if you do make sure you get their Samsung Magician software to update their firmware as soon as it's installed.

If you haven't got your OS on a SSD now then you really should take the time to format/reinstall it onto one, the difference is amazing even just going from HDD to Sata SSD.

The SK Hynix Platinum P41 is better than the Crucial P5 Plus and has more longevity so if you can get it around the same price of the P5 Plus it's an extremely good choice, especially if you're going to use it for your operating system as well.
JamesJB Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Mack:
For a game it doesn't matter sata vs nvme, but you still want to get one that has DRAM.

Regular 2.5" Sata is going to be easy to install as long as you have a spare sata power cable and your PC isn't filled with hard drives that are taking up the sata connection spots. As long as you get a locking sata cable you can just tape it down or use blutack or velcro (and obvious most cases now have 2.5" drive slots), or be ultra lazy and just leave it hanging in the bottom of the case.

If your board has an M.2 port that's easy to reach then those are very easy

Just make sure if you have an M.2 slot that you know if it's a Sata M.2 or NVME m.2, or can do both.

If you can get an NVME drive then get one of those because they're faster even though the real world application isn't that much difference in performance to the view of the user.

My suggestions for a good quality (with dram) drive that isn't too expensive and is pretty widely available are:
2.5" or M.2 Sata = Crucial MX500
M.2 NVME = Crucial P5 Plus or SK Hynix Platinum P41
You might also be able to get a Samsung 970, 980 or 990, if you do make sure you get their Samsung Magician software to update their firmware as soon as it's installed.

If you haven't got your OS on a SSD now then you really should take the time to format/reinstall it onto one, the difference is amazing even just going from HDD to Sata SSD.

The SK Hynix Platinum P41 is better than the Crucial P5 Plus and has more longevity so if you can get it around the same price of the P5 Plus it's an extremely good choice, especially if you're going to use it for your operating system as well.
This is my system at the moment except the memory had 2 sticks die on me so only have 32gig ram but do plan to get 64gig again but 2 32gig sticks this time;

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JamesJB/saved/#view=VQL4sY
Obsessive Power Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:19pm 
Having played a few open world games on my old system with internal SATA SSD's, and now testing the same games on my new system with NVME drives I can tell you that the difference in loading isn't much different really. A few seconds less on a fast travel in say a game like Assassins Creed or GTA V.

Direct Storage support would be a night and day difference. Don't think this game supports Direct Storage though...

Open world games are ALWAYS LOADING/STREAMING, so if you've read others talk about the loading on a hard drive being 'just a bit slower', they don't know what they're talking about. They're in for an epic stutter-struggle!

Honestly any SSD is better than a spinning rust drive, and Starfield should run fine on a SATA SSD. However, if you're after best performance, install to an NVME.
Call Sign: Raven Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:28pm 
Originally posted by Mav1122:
Originally posted by look at the clown:
i've never had that happen and i moved hundreds of games
Me neither

I've had this happen to me in the past, but Steam now lets you assign more than one install location, so that should be solvable, now.
Last edited by Call Sign: Raven; Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:28pm
Tinkuwu Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:40pm 
Some of the fastest drives are using NVMEs these days. Though, you shouldn't have a problem with just an SSD hooked up through SATA. I'd imagine an HDD would be decent as well, just with longer loading screens. I guess if you don't like a 20 second wait time on an HDD, swap the files to an SSD. If you want a few extra seconds faster, get a fast NVME drive.
Tinkuwu Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:41pm 
Originally posted by JamesJB:
This is my system at the moment except the memory had 2 sticks die on me so only have 32gig ram but do plan to get 64gig again but 2 32gig sticks this time;

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JamesJB/saved/#view=VQL4sY

You should be running fine on the M.2 970 you have. I'm still using an 850 SSD and it loads games extremely fast, so you having a more up-to-date model would likely be even faster than mine.
Jonah Falcon Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:42pm 
What counts is transfer speed, not format (unless you have no room for one or the other). Just look at which one has the higher transfer speed.
Mack Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:44pm 
Originally posted by JamesJB:
Originally posted by Mack:
For a game it doesn't matter sata vs nvme, but you still want to get one that has DRAM.

Regular 2.5" Sata is going to be easy to install as long as you have a spare sata power cable and your PC isn't filled with hard drives that are taking up the sata connection spots. As long as you get a locking sata cable you can just tape it down or use blutack or velcro (and obvious most cases now have 2.5" drive slots), or be ultra lazy and just leave it hanging in the bottom of the case.

If your board has an M.2 port that's easy to reach then those are very easy

Just make sure if you have an M.2 slot that you know if it's a Sata M.2 or NVME m.2, or can do both.

If you can get an NVME drive then get one of those because they're faster even though the real world application isn't that much difference in performance to the view of the user.

My suggestions for a good quality (with dram) drive that isn't too expensive and is pretty widely available are:
2.5" or M.2 Sata = Crucial MX500
M.2 NVME = Crucial P5 Plus or SK Hynix Platinum P41
You might also be able to get a Samsung 970, 980 or 990, if you do make sure you get their Samsung Magician software to update their firmware as soon as it's installed.

If you haven't got your OS on a SSD now then you really should take the time to format/reinstall it onto one, the difference is amazing even just going from HDD to Sata SSD.

The SK Hynix Platinum P41 is better than the Crucial P5 Plus and has more longevity so if you can get it around the same price of the P5 Plus it's an extremely good choice, especially if you're going to use it for your operating system as well.
This is my system at the moment except the memory had 2 sticks die on me so only have 32gig ram but do plan to get 64gig again but 2 32gig sticks this time;

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JamesJB/saved/#view=VQL4sY
It'll run fine on the 970's as long as you have the ~150gb spare for the game.

With that system if you wanted another drive I'd just get another 2tb 970 Evo Plus. They're incredibly cheap right now. Unless you wanted a 4tb stick then I'd get the WD Black SN850X.
Last edited by Mack; Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:45pm
AmaiAmai Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:44pm 
Depends on your budget, personally I don't like NVMEs because they tend to overheat and slow down anyway. I've also had them die on me where SATA SSDs from 2012 are still in use.

But hey, "speed" you can't notice and a higher price are always attractive, at least when it comes to bragging.
Daedrius Aug 22, 2023 @ 1:45pm 
Get this one. SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB Internal Gaming SSD Up to 7,000MB/S

Just so you can play Witcher 3 in 1080p with FPS setting at "ridiculous"

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3023928950

...joke btw :)
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