Let's all thank for FSR instead of DLSS

[gatto_nero]

Instead of bumping those negative DLSS threads I propose to thank developers for implementation for open technology such as FSR.

"AMD gaming chief Frank Azor is trying to thread a needle. He seemingly wants to say that AMD did not actually make Starfield, quite possibly the year’s biggest PC game, exclusively support AMD’s FSR upscaling technology at the expense of competitors like Nvidia DLSS. ..."
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dlss-fsr-exclusive-frank-azor

Majority of gamers don't have access to DLSS and yet voice of minority is being heard on this forums.

Let all together thank under this post for FSR - frame generation and upscaling for everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYO4RJHf7QU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zttHxmKFpm4

Ok I crunched numbers from the survey
According to the latest data, there are 132 million monthly active users on Steam

PC VIDEO CARD USAGE BY MFG show
74,69% Nvidia
15,93% AMD
09,02% Intel
00,36% other

But on the table lower Video Card Description we have:
27,75% GTX - 36630000 users
38,65% RTX - 51018000 users
11,86% AMD - 15655200 users
07,49% Intel - 9886800 users

So lets split DLSS version 2 vs 3
09,28% RTX 2000 - 12249600 users
25,55% RTX 3000 - 33726000 users
03,60% RTX 4000 - 4752000 users
titan not included here

PlayStation 5 Total Sales: 35942643
Xbox Series X|S Total Sales: 21351543
Steam deck ???

DLSS 2 total users ALL RTX cards = 51,018,000 users
DLSS 3 total users only RTX 4 cards = 4,752,000 users
AMD hardware users including consoles = 72,949,386 users (excluding unknown number of steam deck additional millions)

Lets count hardware without DLSS support so I will include only AMD, Intel, GTX hardware

119,466,186 non DLSS hardware
vs
51,018,000 DLSS enabled hardware


Users of those GPUs should be thankful:
- Xbox Series X
- Xbox Series S

- GeForce GTX 950
- GeForce GTX 960
- GeForce GTX 970
- GeForce GTX 980
- GeForce GTX 980 Ti
- GeForce GTX Titan X
- GeForce GTX 1030
- GeForce GTX 1050
- GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
- GeForce GTX 1060
- GeForce GTX 1070
- GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
- GeForce GTX 1080
- GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
- TITAN X
- TITAN Xp
- TITAN V
- GeForce GTX 1630
- GeForce GTX 1650
- GeForce GTX 1650 Super
- GeForce GTX 1660
- GeForce GTX 1660 Super
- GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
- GeForce RTX 2060
- GeForce RTX 2060 Super
- GeForce RTX 2070
- GeForce RTX 2070 Super
- GeForce RTX 2080
- GeForce RTX 2080 Super
- GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
- GeForce TITAN RTX
- GeForce RTX 3050
- GeForce RTX 3060
- GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
- GeForce RTX 3070
- GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
- GeForce RTX 3080
- GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
- GeForce RTX 3090
- GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
- GeForce RTX 4060
- GeForce RTX 4060 Ti
- GeForce RTX 4070
- GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
- GeForce RTX 4080
- GeForce RTX 4090

- Radeon RX 520
- Radeon RX 530
- Radeon RX 540
- Radeon RX 550
- Radeon RX 550X
- Radeon RX 560
- Radeon RX 570
- Radeon RX 580
- Radeon RX 590
- Radeon RX Vega 56
- Radeon RX Vega 64
- Radeon VII
- Radeon RX 5300
- Radeon RX 5300 XT
- Radeon RX 5500
- Radeon RX 5500 XT
- Radeon RX 5600
- Radeon RX 5600 XT
- Radeon RX 5700
- Radeon RX 5700 XT
- Radeon RX 6400
- Radeon RX 6500 XT
- Radeon RX 6600
- Radeon RX 6600 XT
- Radeon RX 6650 XT
- Radeon RX 6700
- Radeon RX 6750 XT
- Radeon RX 6800
- Radeon RX 6800 XT
- Radeon RX 6900 XT
- Radeon RX 6950 XT
- Radeon RX 7600
- Radeon RX 7900 XT
- Radeon RX 7900 XTX

so users STOP THE NONSENSE - bump only post that cherish implementation of upscaling that is supported by your hardware - don't discuss with Nvidia fanboys that sits on their newest GPUs

Thanks for your message and involvement :) Have a good day

EDIT: hardware survey with gpu market share GTX 1650 is on the top https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

[Pandora's Actor]

agreed the only ones complaining about it are ngreedia shills. who love nvidia for their exclusivity.

[Chungo Beepis]

is this how AMD market these days? yikes. That whole space has been toxic for so many years it's impossible not to know that virtually anything that comes out of their mouths are lies.

[Dakota]

FSR is based and nvidia shills can keep seething despite the fact we can all benefit from it.

[LucifersBeard]

1070ti and 5700 is the minimum GPU requirement. Anything lower than that is going to be a slideshow I imagine. Also, DLSS should have been included as an option for those who can use it. FSR is still not even close to DLSS.

[BSF7772]

we dont need dlss, we just need a good implementation of fsr that will work and look great in anything.
there are many games that have many artefacts whatever what upscaling u use, dlss will not fix the garbage implementation
and people seem to overexaggerate the different between fsr and dlss, it really isnt. dont let the fake gamers fools you. you will gain nothing by shilling for nvidia

[Amiga500]

Originally posted by Chungo Beepis:

is this how AMD market these days? yikes. That whole space has been toxic for so many years it's impossible not to know that virtually anything that comes out of their mouths are lies.

It's desperation because they are so far behing technology wise and can only react or adapt. And now Intel as the next player in town and even their Raytracing and upscaling solution works better than AMD's.

So they gotta bribe the devs to avoid getting compared to DLSS ingame because FSR usually loses. Sometimes by small details, sometimes by with an awful smearing and ghosting and/or shimmering of antialiased edges.

PureDark's Mod will be the way to go for RTX GPU owners anyway.

[Amiga500]

Originally posted by Pandora's Actor:

agreed the only ones complaining about it are ngreedia shills. who love nvidia for their exclusivity.

The funny point is that Nvidia's exclusivity would not matter if their solutions wouldn't lead to better results.

AMDs loses in every category. Nvidia has better Raytracing, Nvidia has faster GPUs, Nvidia has better Upsclaing. AMD can't match DLAA, AMD can't compete with Frame Generation.

Thats why over 80% of all sold GPUs are Nvidia GPUs becaue it's the better product with better software solutions incl. CUDA and streaming de/encoders.

That's why AMD have to bribe Bethesda and go the anti consumer way. because they need a showcase title.

They wouldn't have to do it if AMD would actually release products and solutions that can compete with Nvida as a whole. They can't, so they go the "block competitors" way.

Thanks to the mod community it won't matter anyway.
We will get free and paid DLSS2 and DLSS 3 mods soon for Starfield and can make fun of the Tier 1 7900XTX 1000 $ GPU that gets beaten by a Tier 3 GPU like the 4070 in Starfield fps benchmarks thanks to DLSS3 lol.

[Mr Brightside]

You know it's possible to have both FSR and DLSS yeah? That's the issue here.

[Forest]

Great news! The upcoming game Starfield will feature FSR 3, and AMD plans to showcase its latest technology using this game. To enjoy the game, you must have FSR 2 or FSR 3. FSR 3 is quite similar to FSR 2 but with an additional step for frame interpolation, which is crucial for improving the framerate, indicating that an extra frame can be generated between two frames, resulting in a smoother gaming experience without putting extra strain on your GPU, which is the key to boosting the framerate. The basic idea is that if you have two frames, you can easily insert an AI- or software-generated frame in the middle, giving you a third frame that the GPU didn't even need to render, so from what I understand, the driver or software is a revised expansion, and also when delivered will be exclusive to AMD.

I should be able to run FSR 2 in Starfield.

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[Maizel]

I would have liked to have both.

Both techs are hit and miss, depending on the game. I feel like DLSS works better overall than FSR, but it would be nice to have the option to use either.

[The Average Gatsby]

lol who uses upscaling?

[Maizel]

Lets celebrate costumer unfriendly practices! Yay!

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

Originally posted by Pandora's Actor:

agreed the only ones complaining about it are ngreedia shills. who love nvidia for their exclusivity.

I think similar

False. As you are the one advocating for exclusivity

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

Originally posted by Dagtag:

False. As you are the one advocating for exclusivity

I think there will be no police chaces in Starfield - so Bethesda block games from progress? xd They could implement it xd

false equivalency in full effect...

we are talking about upscalers here, not gameplay... they are not remotely the same

[Dagtag]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

Originally posted by Dagtag:

false equivalency in full effect...

we are talking about upscalers here, not gameplay... they are not remotely the same

Irrelevant rambling

- upscaler is already implemented and its FSR that support ALL hardware

So because there already is an upscaler it isn’t beneficial to add a second objectively superior one?

Strange logic.

And yet it is still exclusive. You are advocating for exclusivity, while i am advocating for inclusivity.

So, according to your logic we should stop supporting controllers? Since there is already an implementation for input and its keyboard and mouse? Get out of here kid