Let's all thank for FSR instead of DLSS

[gatto_nero]

Instead of bumping those negative DLSS threads I propose to thank developers for implementation for open technology such as FSR.

"AMD gaming chief Frank Azor is trying to thread a needle. He seemingly wants to say that AMD did not actually make Starfield, quite possibly the year’s biggest PC game, exclusively support AMD’s FSR upscaling technology at the expense of competitors like Nvidia DLSS. ..."
https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/25/22372077/amd-starfield-dlss-fsr-exclusive-frank-azor

Majority of gamers don't have access to DLSS and yet voice of minority is being heard on this forums.

Let all together thank under this post for FSR - frame generation and upscaling for everyone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYO4RJHf7QU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zttHxmKFpm4

Ok I crunched numbers from the survey
According to the latest data, there are 132 million monthly active users on Steam

PC VIDEO CARD USAGE BY MFG show
74,69% Nvidia
15,93% AMD
09,02% Intel
00,36% other

But on the table lower Video Card Description we have:
27,75% GTX - 36630000 users
38,65% RTX - 51018000 users
11,86% AMD - 15655200 users
07,49% Intel - 9886800 users

So lets split DLSS version 2 vs 3
09,28% RTX 2000 - 12249600 users
25,55% RTX 3000 - 33726000 users
03,60% RTX 4000 - 4752000 users
titan not included here

PlayStation 5 Total Sales: 35942643
Xbox Series X|S Total Sales: 21351543
Steam deck ???

DLSS 2 total users ALL RTX cards = 51,018,000 users
DLSS 3 total users only RTX 4 cards = 4,752,000 users
AMD hardware users including consoles = 72,949,386 users (excluding unknown number of steam deck additional millions)

Lets count hardware without DLSS support so I will include only AMD, Intel, GTX hardware

119,466,186 non DLSS hardware
vs
51,018,000 DLSS enabled hardware


Users of those GPUs should be thankful:
- Xbox Series X
- Xbox Series S

- GeForce GTX 950
- GeForce GTX 960
- GeForce GTX 970
- GeForce GTX 980
- GeForce GTX 980 Ti
- GeForce GTX Titan X
- GeForce GTX 1030
- GeForce GTX 1050
- GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
- GeForce GTX 1060
- GeForce GTX 1070
- GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
- GeForce GTX 1080
- GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
- TITAN X
- TITAN Xp
- TITAN V
- GeForce GTX 1630
- GeForce GTX 1650
- GeForce GTX 1650 Super
- GeForce GTX 1660
- GeForce GTX 1660 Super
- GeForce GTX 1660 Ti
- GeForce RTX 2060
- GeForce RTX 2060 Super
- GeForce RTX 2070
- GeForce RTX 2070 Super
- GeForce RTX 2080
- GeForce RTX 2080 Super
- GeForce RTX 2080 Ti
- GeForce TITAN RTX
- GeForce RTX 3050
- GeForce RTX 3060
- GeForce RTX 3060 Ti
- GeForce RTX 3070
- GeForce RTX 3070 Ti
- GeForce RTX 3080
- GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
- GeForce RTX 3090
- GeForce RTX 3090 Ti
- GeForce RTX 4060
- GeForce RTX 4060 Ti
- GeForce RTX 4070
- GeForce RTX 4070 Ti
- GeForce RTX 4080
- GeForce RTX 4090

- Radeon RX 520
- Radeon RX 530
- Radeon RX 540
- Radeon RX 550
- Radeon RX 550X
- Radeon RX 560
- Radeon RX 570
- Radeon RX 580
- Radeon RX 590
- Radeon RX Vega 56
- Radeon RX Vega 64
- Radeon VII
- Radeon RX 5300
- Radeon RX 5300 XT
- Radeon RX 5500
- Radeon RX 5500 XT
- Radeon RX 5600
- Radeon RX 5600 XT
- Radeon RX 5700
- Radeon RX 5700 XT
- Radeon RX 6400
- Radeon RX 6500 XT
- Radeon RX 6600
- Radeon RX 6600 XT
- Radeon RX 6650 XT
- Radeon RX 6700
- Radeon RX 6750 XT
- Radeon RX 6800
- Radeon RX 6800 XT
- Radeon RX 6900 XT
- Radeon RX 6950 XT
- Radeon RX 7600
- Radeon RX 7900 XT
- Radeon RX 7900 XTX

so users STOP THE NONSENSE - bump only post that cherish implementation of upscaling that is supported by your hardware - don't discuss with Nvidia fanboys that sits on their newest GPUs

Thanks for your message and involvement :) Have a good day

EDIT: hardware survey with gpu market share GTX 1650 is on the top https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

[breadman]

no

[breadman]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

overpriced nvidia proprietary junk xd

you should be advocating for the inclusion of things, not the exclusion

it should have both but you're too busy being a rapid fanboy

[Bordric]

AMD is junk and always has been. Would not waste my money on subpar hardware.

[breadman]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

nobody cares for technology that is on minotrity of hardware its like complaining Starfield is not compiled for Apple M1

minority? 88% of people are on cards with dlss support, it's amd users that are the minority

[breadman]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

really? all those RTX cards were sold in tens of millions also Xbox Sold already tens of millions

what the hell does xbox have to do with anything

bad troll is bad

[breadman]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

It has AMD hardware and FSR not DLSS also support Freesync

oh ok so you just like throwing words around without meaning or context

[breadman]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

DLSS is only available on RTX cards - those are in minority in the market

88% nvidia users

12% amd users

it doesn't look like you know the meaning of the term "minority"

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

Originally posted by breadman:

oh ok so you just like throwing words around without meaning

what explanation you expect?
In other words
DLSS is only available on RTX cards - those are in minority in the market

Add Xbox + GTX + RTX + AMD cards and you have full picture. They decided to support majority of players - also your precious RTX will have this FSR upscaling for you.

Why they would spent money of implementing proprietary DLSS or compiling Starfield for Apple M1 where there is minority of users on those?

This is big investment from them to support everyone instead of only RTX

I don't care about consoles. They use AMD's because they are mass produced and cheap.

The PC GPU market is Nvidia's.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

[[CTU]Jack_Bauer]

Perhaps it is the old creative engine or their new what Creative engine 2 as they are calling this variant that is the problem, they keep reusing that damn "fallout engine" and doing some slight tweaks to it, you can see hints of it in the videos some of the clips just made me go damn they are still using creative engine.

The fact they did not go unreal or some other engine could also be the issue, it is easy to blame people for not having the money to upgrade to a current or last generation chipset and gpu.

Bethesda it is time to put Creative engine to rest and accept it is not as good as others out there, and if you want to do more mp games a lot more work needs to be done to it.

[breadman]

Originally posted by CTUJack_Bauer:

Perhaps it is the old creative engine or their new what Creative engine 2 as they are calling this variant that is the problem, they keep reusing that damn "fallout engine" and doing some slight tweaks to it, you can see hints of it in the videos some of the clips just made me go darn they are still using creative engine.

it's "creation engine"

dlss is a wrapper and there is already a paid mod out for dlss 3, it has nothing to do with the engine

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

In those 88% nvidia users how much % have RTX and RTX?

"rtx and rtx"

case in point, you throw random buzzwords and hope something sticks

[Dootslayer]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

Instead of bumping those negative DLSS threads I propose to thank developers for implementation for open technology such as FSR.

Majority of gamers don't have access to DLSS and yet voice of minority is being heard on this forums.

Let all together thank under this post for FSR

Users of those GPUs should be thankful:
- Xbox Series X
- Xbox Series S

- GeForce GTX 950
- GeForce GTX 960
- GeForce GTX 970
- GeForce GTX 980
- GeForce GTX 980 Ti
- GeForce GTX Titan X
- GeForce GTX 1030
- GeForce GTX 1050
- GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
- GeForce GTX 1060
- GeForce GTX 1070
- GeForce GTX 1070 Ti
- GeForce GTX 1080
- GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
- TITAN X
- TITAN Xp
- TITAN V
- GeForce GTX 1630
- GeForce GTX 1650
- GeForce GTX 1650 Super
- GeForce GTX 1660
- GeForce GTX 1660 Super
- GeForce GTX 1660 Ti

- Radeon RX 520
- Radeon RX 530
- Radeon RX 540
- Radeon RX 550
- Radeon RX 550X
- Radeon RX 560
- Radeon RX 570
- Radeon RX 580
- Radeon RX 590
- Radeon RX Vega 56
- Radeon RX Vega 64
- Radeon VII
- Radeon RX 5300
- Radeon RX 5300 XT
- Radeon RX 5500
- Radeon RX 5500 XT
- Radeon RX 5600
- Radeon RX 5600 XT
- Radeon RX 5700
- Radeon RX 5700 XT
- Radeon RX 6400
- Radeon RX 6500 XT
- Radeon RX 6600
- Radeon RX 6600 XT
- Radeon RX 6650 XT
- Radeon RX 6700
- Radeon RX 6750 XT
- Radeon RX 6800
- Radeon RX 6800 XT
- Radeon RX 6900 XT
- Radeon RX 6950 XT
- Radeon RX 7600
- Radeon RX 7900 XT
- Radeon RX 7900 XTX

so users STOP THE NONSENSE - bump only post that cherish implementation of upscaling that is supported by your hardware - don't discuss with Nvidia fanboys that sits on their newest GPUs

Thanks for your message and involvement :) Have a good day

Ah the infamous clown

[Bordric]

Yeah AMD in console because of 1 cost and 2 no one wants them so they are laying around in warehouses.

[[CTU]Jack_Bauer]

Originally posted by breadman:

Originally posted by CTUJack_Bauer:

Perhaps it is the old creative engine or their new what Creative engine 2 as they are calling this variant that is the problem, they keep reusing that damn "fallout engine" and doing some slight tweaks to it, you can see hints of it in the videos some of the clips just made me go darn they are still using creative engine.

it's "creation engine"

dlss is a wrapper and there is already a paid mod out for dlss 3, it has nothing to do with the engine

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

In those 88% nvidia users how much % have RTX and RTX?

"rtx and rtx"

case in point, you throw random buzzwords and hope something sticks

Nice my first guess was correct just got a did you mean creative engine pop up in my search thing so went with that could not recall the name of it, just called it fallout engine usually :D.

[Daedrius]

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

Originally posted by Ezeris:

I don't care about consoles. They use AMD's because they are mass produced and cheap.

The PC GPU market is Nvidia's.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

You don't care because you bought in those marketing hyped closed nvidia technology. But guess what - Bethesda dont care :) And I don't care. You will have to use FSR whatever you like it or not

lol, I definitely won't need FSR.

[breadman]

Originally posted by Ezeris:

lol, I definitely won't need FSR.

yea seriously

i play native 4k in most games anyway

Originally posted by gatto_nero:

you ever tried AMD hardware?

yes, that's how i know it's trash